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Jeep Wrangler



  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Wecome to the board! As far as the 5 speed vs. auto - personally I think that any woman (or guy for that matter) should know how to drive a stick. On the other hand, spouses should not try to teach their other half how to do it (or much of anything). Keep your marriage intact, have someone else teach her (from someone who tried to teach my other half how to ride a horse (disaster) and a motorcycle (partly successful - he already knew about clutches).

    Depreciation - Just about every car depreciates. Some more than others. My 2000 Tacoma is worth less than my '98 Wrangler (last time I looked the Tacoma was worth just over $1,000 less than the Wrangler, even though the Wrangler is over 100,000 miles and the Tacoma is under 100,000).
  • likalarlikalar Posts: 108
    "Used or new, just get a JEEP! Ain't nothin' like em!"

    Very true! When I first posted here, asking about used Wranglers, the people on this board were helpful about towing tips, engines, trannies, etc. At the time I was looking for a Jeep mainly for towing and weekend use. Wrong! My 8 month old luxo-wagon is in the garage collecting dust (my son wrote "wash me, use me" in the dust), while the Jeep has become the family workhorse. Love it!
  • nolid5nolid5 Posts: 148
    "Hey if Momma wants you to get an automatic, that must mean Momma plans on driving it, and if she wants to drive a Jeep, she must be a pretty cool lady! (I would still try to talk her into the five speed, though.)"

    She is a cool lady. When I owned my YJ I tried to teach her, however, the seat didn't pull forward enough for her to fully depress the clutch. She got very discouraged. Don't think she has the patience to try again. Maybe the seats in the TJ have more travel though.

    The fountain of youth can only be found in a Jeep:)

  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    Hey, determine the difference between the cost of the auto v/s the 5 spd and ask the Mrs. if she would take that amount as compensation for letting you get into the 5 spd.

    I love having a stick and in a pinch, it can really get that stock 6 cyl. hauling. Of course while doing this you can watch your gas gauge drop in real time, but sometimes it's necessary to "move it".

    We have three small children (elementary school) and they love off-roading, especially mud. It is surprising how much they actually pay attention to the trail ahead. Plus, this will let you access areas that their little legs would have trouble hiking/biking to.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    "......I love having a stick and in a pinch, it can really get that stock 6 cyl. hauling......"

    Don't forget that with the auto you can select and hold the gears manually. Holding first and second till you hit the limiter will give acceleration that most people don't realize is there.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Twylie is correct, you need two keys to program up to six more. So, $20 (eBay) plus $25 (dealer programming) for your first one, then $20 a key thereafter.
  • kelleyokelleyo Posts: 182
    choice to go with my new Alpine system. I really did not want to give up much space and the factory sub in the console is too expensive (have to replace the whole console). I decided to go with the Mopar Sound Deck. I got it on Ebay =2401151928&category=6775 new for $199.

    I can't wait to install it this weekend. I was never looking for HEavy kicking bass, I just want to fill out the sound.

    I will report my results once I get it installed and working.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Man, please keep us informed on your progress in getting a Jeep. You have read lots of the posts in here, you said, so you KNOW I get excited when anyone gets a Jeep.

    Good luck!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Hi I'm the proud owner of a brand new Sahara, and I'm so clueless, I probably don't deserve one. I know it's been discussed a number of times before, but just double checking.... One of the tops on the dual top NEED to be removed, correct?? At least that's what the little video and the manual says. I intend to keep on the hard top for now. The dealer says I don't need to take the soft top out and that there is no difference whether I store the soft top within the vehicle as they come, or if I go through the ordeal to take it out and store it elsewhere.

    I'm confused. Help!!

    Otherwise I *LOVE* my new wheels. :D

    Thanks for your input.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    I didn't get the dual top option, but I would CERTAINLY go with what DC says rather than what the dealer says.

    Everyone I have heard about that got the dual top option took one of the tops off right away, like they tell ya to do.

    Those soft tops are too expensive to take a chance on damaging them by leaving them in there with the hard top on. They plainly tell ya that they do that from the factory strictly for shipping purposes.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Tom is correct. DC built the Jeep, wrote the manual, and filmed the video. Your dealer placed an order, received the vehicle, and collected your money. Who's information should you place most credence in?

    Anyhow, the soft top isn't too hard to store (you could put it behind the sofa). :-)
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I'm only 5' tall and have short legs (small enough to enjoy riding ponies) and I have no problems handling the clutch in my TJ. In fact, I don't have the seat all the way forward - it is out a notch. But I wouldn't push it if she's really reluctant.

    The only YJ I ever test drove was an auto, so I can't speak about them. I do remember having problems reaching the starter button in the old Army Jeeps, but that was more because I have small feet and couldn't always reach it and the clutch too. Does anyone beside oceantoad remember those days?
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    "DaimlerChrysler Corp. president Dieter Zetsche wants to build the auto maker's new, flexible assembly plant in Ontario, but raised the possibility yesterday that the company could choose Mexico if a deal can't be reached with suppliers and Canadian governments. ........
    The new plant is slated to assemble the Dodge M80 compact pickup truck, a compact sport utility vehicle off the same platform, or basic underbody, possibly the next version of the Jeep Wrangler SUV and perhaps a pickup for Hyundai Motor, another auto maker in the DaimlerChrysler AG family."
          Mike's Totally Free Jeep News

    I hate to see such an American icon being assembled outside the US, but my guess is I won't care much for the next generation of wrangler anyway and will probably continue driving my current TJ until they bury me in it.
  • lvcheflvchef Posts: 52
    Boy I hope it doesn't look like the Liberty!! The old Cherokee was a GREAT Jeep, and sadly enough they replaced it with a Soccer Mom style Jeep. I hope they dont do the same to the Wrangler.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I really hope they don't change much as far as styling, because the Wrangler is one of the most unique cars around. Just about everything else looks alike to me - it is either a truck, an enclosed truck (most SUVs) or a car.

    Hope that everyone has a good weekend wherever you are, and that the weather is nice. I'm going to be camping on the beach, enjoying our hot weather (it was over 90 in some spots today). They are talking about the weather might change next week - maybe we will be lucky enough to get some snow. My snowshoes are getting dusty!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Where are posts 8148 and 8149? The screen I'm looking at right now jumps from 8147 to 8150.



    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • luca1luca1 Posts: 29
    I happen to like the styling of the Liberty, even more so than the old Cherokee. I happen to have a Liberty and I love everything about it and I am not a soccer mom. I also love Wranglers and with any luck ,I will have one in the not too distant future. Don't want my Liberty to get lonesome

    I most definitely hugged my Jeep today !!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,981
    Tom, we had a jerk spamming vile all over the boards a couple of hours ago - thus the housecleaning. Trust me, you didn't miss anything and hopefully he won't reregister before legal can get on the stick Monday morning ....

    Steve, Host
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    So, that darn Tidester was at it again, huh? :)


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I think it should be very obvious to everyone how much I love this message board and all the folks that post here, but I also like to go to other sites too.

    When I invite people to Gill's place (, I am by no means trying to drag people away from here. Gill's site is non-commercial and in NO WAY competes with Edmunds. I have actually brought people TO Edmunds FROM Gill's... people that never even heard of Edmunds.

    Hope this clears up any misunderstandings, if there were any.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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