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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Rubicon? (You SAID suggestions welcome!)


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • kwhitesellkwhitesell Posts: 2
    I am currently a college student in NC - I drive a 91 Honda Crx to keep my monthly expenses down. (ie gas insurance) I have always loved the Jeep Wrangler look especially the Sahara. I am graduating and I don't want the stereotypical SUV look and I am not a 4 door sedan type of guy - The question - how do Saharas fare in the cold climate of Pittsburgh or Detroit as I might be going to grad school in these areas.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Not sure what you mean by your question relating to a Sahara and cold climates, but the Jeep heaters work fine, and Jeeps are good in snow, as long as you take it easy and remember that you are in a short wheel base, high center of gravity vehicle.

    Welcome to the board, Kevin.

    You will love a Jeep! No other vehicle is even close to a Jeep for "fun."


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. Gas insurance? Man, I know the price of gas is high, but I never heard of anyone insuring their gas before! Probably a good idea at today's prices. :)
  • saharagalsaharagal Posts: 88
    My soft-top Sahara keeps us plenty warm during the Winter months in Atlanta. While the Winters here are much shorter, and a lot milder than Pittsburgh or Detroit, we do have stretches of cold weather. I've never felt like my Sahara's heater was insufficient. The heater keeps us all very warm -- front seat and back.

    Maybe you should consider getting a Sahara with the dual-top option, if you're nervous about the cold weather. That way, you wouldn't have to worry about cold weather or snow accumulation. I definitely wouldn't let weather concerns keep you from buying a Jeep. There are plenty of people in colder regions of the coutntry who drive Jeeps Wranglers!

    Congratulations on your upcoming graduation! You've earned a Sahara!

  • huck6huck6 Posts: 37
    Why not grab a MINI. That way you can have the off-road capabilities of your Jeep and the on-road enjoyment of an excellent little car. When the weather is bad, you can park your MINI under your Jeep! ;)
  • huck6huck6 Posts: 37
    I'd go for it! I had a Jeep all through grad school and since there was little time for the "social activities" that I had known as an undergraduate, 5 minutes in the Jeep more than made up for it!

    Be sure that you can afford a new vehicle and its maintenance/insurance while in school. Maybe go with a late used model?

    Good luck and congrats on getting a degree!
  • oregontj03oregontj03 Posts: 7
    I have a few questions about my new Wrangler. Does anyone know if bigger tires, or a suspension lift would void the warranty? I'm thinking about 33's with a 2.5 skyjacker lift. Second, does anyone have a tornado fuel saver? I've heard alot of great things about them, was just wondering how they were for jeeps.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    Where, on the infomercial? I think it's snake oil:

    The accessories to improve mileage and extend engine life

    If they're so great, why don't they stick them on at the factory, etc.?

    Steve, Host
  • 2001wrangler2001wrangler Posts: 112
    First off, I don't think a 2" lift will clear 33's. You may want to consider adding spring spacers or going with the 4" lift.

    Here is a pic of showing 2" lift with 1.5 spring spacers and 33x10.50's

    It really depends on your dealer as to the warranty. I had a 01 sport with a 4" Skyjacker lift and 33's and I had a few warranty issues and the dealer didn't question it at all. I have a 03 sport ordered and when I was placing the order, the dealer said he wanted to see it as soon as I made some mods. Just call your dealer and ask.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    What Kevin (2001wrangler) said. You might physically get the 33s to clear with only 2.5" of lift, but you would most likely not be able to disconnect your front sway bar for wheelin without getting a rub. I assume you are gonna wheel that Jeep? If not, then you would be OK with the set up you have in mind, probably.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Do a little research on how much it costs vehicle manufacturers annually in penalties for high fuel consumption (CAFE regs, guzzler tax etc.) Consider how much it would cost said manufacturers to produce a Tornado or similar device (pennies at most). Finally, do the math.
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Following your line of thought on CAFE and vehicle MPG, I've often wondered why more manufactureres don't offer synthetic oil from the factory for that same reason. Without fail, I've gotten anywhere from .75 to 1.5 MPG gains using synthetic fluids on every vehicle I've run Mobil1 or Redline in. Seems if you could get your CAFE even .5 MPG, the cost savings would pay for the syn fluids from the showroom. I can see where the cost might not be as significant (or even negative) on cars that have full maintenance built in to the price, since they'd have to pay for syn on all service visits, but I ran the numbers on my cars and the $ saved in improved mileage offset the higher cost of synthetic oil and that's with my paying retail price for fluids.

    There must be somethign I'm missing there.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Jeep Buds, today is Cinco de Mayo, and that means Kevin's (2001Wrangler's) Jeep is being born today!


    Uh oh, Kev, what about that username???? Don't think that's legal to call yourself 2001wrangler when you are driving a 2003 Wrangler. IRS might think you're evading taxes or something. :)

    Congrats, Kev!!!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • kelleyokelleyo Posts: 182
    Thanks for the suggestions!

    I would love a Rubi but would have to trade Pepe'. Not gonna do it (Pepe' is all paid for and I have sunk too much cash into him that I would never get back). I am gonna keep Pepe' until there is nothing but Iron Oxide.

    A Mini would be cool cept I am 6'4" about 250..

    My thoughts have now run the gambit from Subaru WRX SI, to used Porsche Boxter or Corvette Z06, to another lincoln LS to an Audi S4.

    I like the Audi and Subaru since they both drive all 4 wheels :)
    I am gonna drive Pepe' as my main ride for a couple of months (therefore saving up a nice down payment!)and then decide.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I don't know the answer for sure, but I would guess that it's because the numbers don't gell.

    Certainly, the idea of factoring a lubricant into the fuel consumption equation is not new. Look at how the recommended viscosity numbers are getting lower and lower.

    It's my guess that the cost of dino oil for the initial fill is far less than the cost of synthetic. Bulk buying does a lot to reduce the dollar cost, but it will do nothing to reduce the price differential between the two. Synthetic is just so much more expensive to produce. I'd guess that synthetic is dollars more expensive, rather than pennies, which is a lot when applied to production costs.

    Just my two cents.

  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I'm not in the new/used car market but I'm always looking...;) Vehicles I've admired lately include the BMW 330i Performance Package(still too pricey for me:(), Land Rover Discovery, Liberty Renegade, Mitsu EVO, Mustang Mach 1, Nissan Murano, Subaru WRX STI, and the new hot Volvo 300 hp AWD V70 R wagon. Oh yeah, I also love that wacky Neon SRT-4. 5.5s 0-60 and under $20,000. The thing is, I still love my ti and TJ. Shoot, I can stick a chip, upgraded speakers, and ellipsoid headlights in my ti for under $1000. As for the TJ, I can fit Cibie E-Code headlamps, decent speakers/CD changer, a sailcloth top and a rear locker for less than $1500. If I buy something new I'll suffer more than $2500 in depreciation in the first couple of months. That said, if I ever hit the jackpot I'm getting the Mach 1, an M Coupe, an X5 4.6is and a Rubicon. My philosophy is that you can never have too many cars or too much horsepower...:)
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    Unless the consumer demands it or it is necessary to differntiate the vehicle, the mfg. will have no incentive to put it in. This often used to justify govt. intrusion into the marketplace (seat belts, ABS, emissions, etc.). The debate on how efficient this is is fodder for debate.
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    The WRX is a blast, I can only imagine what the SI will be like! It is definately the best bang for your buck if you like curves. The best curves for the vette are in the body work, they seem more like straight away cars.

    The Porsche will get you more attention than the Subie, but there is a certain thrill in blasting away unsuspecting boy racers at the light. Yeah Mr. Mustang 5.0, that is the rear of Subaru dissappearing before you!

    Call me a kid, but it is pretty neat!
  • xairxair Posts: 13
    My Rubicon hit E status today, still on track for a 5/8/2003 ship date. Can't wait!

  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    You've got a good list of ideas and others suggestions. The only new car I've driven lately that impressed me was the G35 Coupe. Less refined than I expected but really well balanced and quick. For the money, it's a great combination of speed and comfort. Room might be an issue given your height. It wasn't a problem for me, but I'm only 6'1". If my wife ever decides to give up her SC400, the G Coupe is the likely replacement for now.

    I would think the Boxster will feel super cramped to you unless the top is down. It's a fun car to drive though. I spent a weekend driving a friends Speed Yellow '99 around Richmond and down the Blue Ridge Parkway. Great fun in the fall.

    When my Exploder needs to be put down, I'll proabably go with a sport sedan for my next vehicle. I'll probably look for a couple year old 540i Sport with the extended warranty and drive it until it's out of warranty. I think Bimmers are great fun to drive, but I don't want to pay the maintenance tab.

    mac24 - yeah, that's the only answer. I'm sure my thought isn't original. It would be interesting to see the numbers though.

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