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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Man, since you have something more practical for family transportation, and since this vehicle is YOUR baby, and since you have ALWAYS wanted a Jeep.... GO FOR IT!

    Dave, there is simply no way to convey to you how much fun a Jeep really is. You THINK you know how much fun it would be, but when you finally get one, you will realize that they are a hundred times more fun than you thought they would be.

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!

    Get that Jeep! Do it, do it, do it. You know you want one and HAVE wanted one a long time. Why not do it?????

    The first time you take a drive topless and doorless you will know that you did the right thing. The first time you get that puppy out in the woods, you will be even more sure that you did the right thing.

    There just plain ain't nothin' like a Jeep!

    If you will really watch your speed, you can get probably 18 MPG or maybe 19 MPG on your commute. Keep it at about 65 MPH or less, and you can get some decent mileage.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. I have always been one to get excited over a vehicle (or anything else, for that matter) and then get bored with it in just a short time. It may not sound like a long time; but, considering my history, it is AMAZING that I am still just as enthusiastic about my Jeep as I was the day I picked her up, three and a half years ago! Heck, I think I am even MORE enthusiastic about her now.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You ought to check on the Rubicon Unlimited. I know there are a few, and I have even seen pics.

    They may not be generally available yet, but you should ask about them. You can get a six speed manual tranny, and that oughta be great for your commute. Also, you get SELECTABLE lockers front and back (and the back is limited slip when not engaged as a full locker). You get the Dana 44 axle front and rear. You get SYE right from the factory. You get a 4:1 low range transfer case (std is 2.72:1). You get those beautiful Moab style wheels (16") and some 31 x 10.50 MTR tires.

    The Rubicon edition is a super, super bargain for all that you get with it! You would spend three or four times as much money modifying a regular Wrangler to get the same features that a Rubi has right from the factory.

    So, if there really is a Rubicon edtion of the Unlimited, then you should definitely go for it.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    My TJ is NOT my daily driver (120+ miles on the highway in a windy desert), but I have my top off and doors off now.

    One thing to consider besides dual tops is a bikini/safari top for summer. In the high desert here, the sun is VERY intense and as much as I love the top off during the summer, the sun is just too intense, so a safari top is a good way to go as well.

    I'm looking at the various trail covers offered that cover the cabin when not in use and with the top/doors off to keep dust, water, and such out. Has anybody tried any of these? Does Bestop make one that will cover the holes left by removed lower doors?

    -Paul
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    For a trail cover that will cover the entire door area for when you go doorless, try the ones by Rain Gear. I had one but sold it on ebay this year, because I have garage space now, not because it didn't work.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I bought a full cover from Quadratec. It is custom made for the Wrangler and fits perfectly.

    I have had it two or three years, and it was about $100 back then.

    Mine is the DuraVent style full cover (think that's what they called it).

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    In answer to my own question from last week: a guy with a Rubicon down the street lent me a bottle of stuff called "Revive" by Car Brite. It did a very good job of cleaning up my bleached-out fender flares, which is what it is designed to do. Highly recommended. I don't know how much it cost because I borrowed his bottle but he said it's cheap. I think he got it from a specialty store.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Been a long time! How ya doin'? How's that self employment thing workin' out for ya?

    Maybe I'll catch ya in Gill's chat room one of these nights.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    The biz is good, was out of town for a few weeks but back now. I think we keep missing each other at Gill's but I'll catch you one of these nights.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Tom, I was looking for just the cab cover area, not the whole vehicle. But with all the dust blowing around right now and the sappy stuff still coming off trees, the full cover may be a good way to go and one I can use with the top on (hopefully).

    Does the full cover fit in the TJ okay or do you just leave it at home?

    -Paul
  • davesbrewdavesbrew Posts: 45
    Heh. Thanks Tom.

    And congrats on being smoke free!
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I have a 150 mile commute (glad to know there are other crazy folks out there) and used my Wrangler for a daily driver for about 6 months. It worked out fine, but we decided to get something more economical for a daily driver. We still use the Wrangler as a daily driver whenever it snows or it sounds like the roads will be bad - they often have chain requirements and I just have a thing about chains and snow shovels at 4am!

    Now that our daily driver (the disliked Y2K Tacoma) has 167,000 miles on it, we're thinking of replacing it. About the only vehicle we REALLY like is the Wrangler, so we are thinking of getting an Unlimited. The cost isn't as big of a concern with us, and I'm now thinking of going with an auto tranny (both our vehicles now are 5 speeds). My husband prefers a car to be quieter for such a long trip and the Unlimited is a whole lot quieter.

    If you get a Wrangler (and I think you should if you want one), be aware that you are getting a thirsty vehicle with the aerodynamics of a brick wall. It is NOT designed to go fast, but it is tough and will get you there no matter what. We bought ours new in 1998 and I still love it after 6 years.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Paul:

    I didn't get the bag that is made for storage of the full cover, but I guess I should have. I suppose any old bad that is big enough would do, though.

    I roll up the cover and can take it with me if I am going somewhere while topless and doorless and thinkin' it might rain.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Well, got it yet????

    :)

    Seriously, PLEASE, PLEASE let us know how this goes. I am rooting SO HARD for you to get that Jeep. You will not regret it, if you do!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • proc2000proc2000 Posts: 13
    I am on the verge of purchasing a new Wrangler. Either the Sport or the Unlimited. Like most of you, its a vehicle I have always wanted. As I get near my 4th decade, I have always put off the purchase for one reason or another. Here's my dilemma. I work as a contractor to one of the "Big 3" (not DCX). I have been in a contract role for a few years and get the other company's supplier discount, but their vehicles have run their course with me and I really would like the Jeep. Do I go with what I want or should I be "loyal" to the company who indirectly employs me? Tough call. Any guidance would be appreciated (FWIW, I get the DCX employee discount from my father-in-law which is better than my supplier/contractor discount with the other company).
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Separate work from fun. Buy the Jeep. That is as long as there is no clause in your contract that requires you to buy/drive their cars (don't think that would be legal, but I don't know).

    I wanted a Wrangler (well, a CJ) when I was in my 20s. I always found a reason why I needed something else until I finally gave up and bought one. For over 20 years that Wrangler itch didn't go away, so save yourself that 20 year itch and buy the Wrangler now.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Well, bet you know what I am gonna say. :)

    JEEP!

    That "other" company should not have a problem with your buying a one of a kind vehicle like a Jeep Wrangler. It's not like they have something that directly competes with the Jeep Wrangler (no one does!).

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • davesbrewdavesbrew Posts: 45
    Well, something to consider: I've got a bro-in-law that works for GM. He was telling me that at the plant they have close parking for GM-only cars and far parking for other makes. (I'm guessing they allow disabled people to park close regardless of make.)
    But you said you work for a contractor/supplier, so I'd say, unless you'd catch a lot of flak from your boss/directors, or unless they have a silly parking policy like that, get what you want.

    Also, thanks all for the input. When my 94 altima (170k) dies, I'm going with the jeep!

    (Weird that i find myself wishing that my engine block would crack...)
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    A little sugar in the old gas tank would work wonders on that Altima. Maybe you could "forget" to refill the crank case during your next oil change?

    Seriously, Dave, why wait? Heck that stupid Altima just might go 300K miles! Why don't you check on that Rubicon Unlimited? See when it is going to be available. Consider a factory order on your Jeep. That way you get exactly what you want, no one else will have driven it (it will be YOUR Jeep from the day it is assembled), it will give you something to look forward to, and the window sticker will have your name on it.

    Come on, Dave, GO FOR IT!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    You're asking whether you should buy from a company whose vehicles "have run their course" with you? Not much of a debate. Why would you make payments on something you don't want? Get the Jeep. The discount makes it even more of a cinch.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    If anybody gives you flak about not buying your customer's cars, tell them, "Well, if they made something like a Wrangler, I would."

    There is only one Jeep. :)

    -Paul

    BTW, 78 degrees, 5% humidity, doorless, topless drive in to work today. Will be 105 and 5% humidity after work so the safari will be on this afternoon!
  • proc2000proc2000 Posts: 13
    Thank you all for the replies. I've pretty much made up my mind that the next ride will be a Wrangler.

    I test drove the Unlimited and liked it quite a bit (the extra room is nice), but the regular Wrangler has a 1K rebate (and 1K customer cash) right now, which makes look attractive. I priced out a loaded up Sport with dual tops and w/2K off and DCX employee pricing and tax, it comes out to just over $23K. Now, I just need to sell my current ride.
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    Well, that stuff looked like it had cleared up the flares yesterday. Then we got monsoon rain last night and they look back to normal (faded). So much for the quick fix. I think I'll try a heat gun next.

    erickpl: FYI, the Rain Gear cover includes a stuff sack about the size of a small sleeping bag.

    proc2000: honestly, if I were to get a Jeep today, I wouldn't bother with the hard top at all. The new soft tops are pretty quiet.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I love my soft top, but when it snows, I worry about the weight of the snow on a soft top.

    If I go with a Bestop hard top, I'll probably get the slider upper half doors too. Should be a lot quieter.

    -Paul
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    I've seen some chatter on other boards about using penetrol on the flares and people have had good results. Might be worth a shot before the heat gun comes out.

    -twylie
  • drosketerdrosketer Posts: 203
    Wow, the whole lotta new posting happening. Welcome aboard all.

    My $0.02 (for a number of the issues that have been discussed recently)... get the Jeep, get the dual tops (unless you don't get much in the way of snow or ice buildup (you don't want to scrape the soft top windows)), the heater is great even with some damningly frigid temperatures, and lastly - buy it and love the ride! ;-)

    Andrew
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    Are you serious? Just apply it on the flares straight-up with a rag? Would it hurt the paint on the body if some gets on? There's a Lowe's right around the corner.
  • proc2000proc2000 Posts: 13
    I was thinking dual tops...its gets cold here in Michigan...snow, etc. If I am hearing correctly, many of you think the soft top is adequate for Midwest winters?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I would think the soft top would be fine temperature-wise for a midwest winter (at least from what I remember of my college days living near Coldwater).

    I'm like Paul - I worry about some of the huge snow dumps we mountain dwellers get every so often. My hard top didn't have a problem with the 30 inches of wet snow we got one night a couple of years ago (though I got stuck in the road outside my driveway, luckily). I'm not sure how a soft top would have handled that. If I were lucky enough to have a garage, I would definitely get the dual tops. Since I don't, I have a hard top. I may take a chance and get a soft top next time around, though it will be hard convincing my other half (he prefers the hard top).
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    Just echoing what I've read. Most people are applying it straight on after cleaning the flares well. Using everything from a brush to a rag with decent results. Might want to test it out on a small area first to make sure it will have a finish you're pleased with. AGAIN, no personal experience with it, just a few threads and almost universal satisfaction in the posts I've seen. Advice given is apply in a garage or similar wind/dust free environment to keep dirt out while it dries.

    -twylie
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    another option, although more time consuming is to use Krylon Fusion spray paint (bonds to plastic). An individuals Jeep site with the review: http://www.4x4icon.com/offroad/fender_flares/index.htm

    -twylie
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