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  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Imagine if they made a Jeep that was built like a toyota. Man , that would be something.
  • Just wanted to comment on the humming noise...I was going to say the same thing Markbuck did, but he beat me to it!

    I would say it is definately the fan clutch. Your jeep is working properly...my 4.0L I6 did the same thing once or twice. It is now cooling off here in PA, so I doubt it will happen again...If you listen close to some of the Chevy 4.3L engines they sound that way almost constantly...not sure if the fan is direct shaft from engine or not...but it's definately the fan.

    just thought I'd throw in my .02...

    Any you jeepers out there have a soft top and use a canoe? I'm looking for a good roof rack that will carry about 200lbs (for the camping gear and etc.) and that will also carry a canoe. I think olympic makes one and warrior products, but i need something that tilts so i can take down the top. Any input would be great!!

    Thanks!

    -the pizzadude
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Yup, I'd go along with that, easy to check too. Just lift the hood. If it is that, there's nothing to fix. I guess I was visualizing the wrong kind of noise :-)
  • markbuckmarkbuck Posts: 1,021
    So, you have a 190 hp I-6. Well it only makes maybe 60hp off idle. You are running the A/C, the fan clutch is engaged, each stealing 10 hp. So you have only 2/3 the hp at slow engine speeds. Combine that with a manual and the engine will seem really boggy.

    I have the same problem with my 255hp 4.8L Chevy 5-speed when pulling a trailer. Automatic transmissions handle this problem better 'cuz it allow the engine rpm to rise via slip in the torque converter.....


    So, worst case would be a manual tranny'd, tall gear ratio'd, just above idle engine that is also spinning the A/C compressor and the cooling fan


    Solution, spin the tar outta it in each gear. Noise won't hurt anything. If you normally shift at 3k rpm, let it run out to 3,500 rpm when the a/c is on and the cooling fan is howling....

    Don't worry, be happy!
  • abbdabbd Posts: 2
    GOOD AFTERNOON...I AM LOOKING AT BUYING A 2001 JEEP SPORT (TRADING IN MY SEBRING CONVERTIBLE) AND WHILE YOU CAN'T COMPARE A CAR TO A JEEP, I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS....FIRST, HOW ARE THE JEEPS FOR DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AT 65MPH? ARE THEY REALLY PUSHED AROUND IN THE WIND? SECOND, IN THE MIDDLE OF A SNOWSTORM WITH TWO SMALL CHILDREN ABOARD, IS THE JEEP A SAFE VEHICLE, OR IS IT REALLY JUST A TERRIFIC VEHICLE TO "PLAY" OFF ROAD IN. AND THIRD, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE NEW 2001'S SOFT TOP IS QUIETER THAN EARLIER MODELS. (I WOULD GET BOTH TOPS ANYWAY). THANKS FOR ANY INPUT.
  • I've got a 2000, with 5000 miles. The noise sounds as though its coming from the tires or bearings. It's like a rubbing or a whirling noise that increases as your speed increases.
    I had it to the dealer and they suggested it was simply the tire noise (stock P225s) I am hearing, and it was normal, and they blamed it on the fact that I've removed all the carpet, so its more noticable. I'll give em that it would be louder without carpet, but this isn't tire noise.

    It appears to be getting louder now, and what really sets it off is water! If I wash it, or drive it in the rain, it becomes much louder.

    Any ideas as to what this is?
  • Markbuck, are you a mechanic? You're right on the money.
    Since I live in South Florida and it's hot the fan cluth engages when it gets too hot.
    My mechanic said that it's normal.
    I still love my Jeep and wouln't trade it for a toyota.

    Denis :-)
  • the price he wants is characteristic of a 1995 wrangler. i got a 91 w/ 4cyl/5spd hard soft tops, both doors, 4" susp lift, and 31" tires, 90000 miles for $5500. aim for around 6000 maybe more maybe less.

    mike:)
  • Thanks for the all the postings. dpage35925, I am glad you posted your problem, I always wanted to know for sure what was causing the noise. And hey markbuck, we owe you a nickel.
  • Hey I had to write, remember...any noise you here in a jeep is normal...
  • markbuckmarkbuck Posts: 1,021
    the 2001 tops are around 3.5 dB quieter - which equates to less than half as loud....
  • Needs some info on 1992 Jeep Wrangler. I've never owned a Jeep and am thinking about buying one as a family toy. The Jeep appears to be in good shape with oversized tires and doesn't look like it has been offroad. Asking price is $6300 with 85k miles. I need everyones vast knowledge to help in the decision. Thanks in advance!
  • Well I ordered my 2001 Jeep Wrangler and it only took approximately one month, but when it arrived off of the trailer on sat night, as I was passing the dealership, I went over to look at my new jeep. It had every option that I had ordered except the deep tinted factory windows, which it looked horrible without. The dealer made a mistake when he ordered my vehicle, he thought that the deep tinted windows were standard on the 2001. Not to mention, the deep tinted windows come factory done on the softop, which I totally wanted. So here I am going to wait probably another month. My heart was broken when it came in and I saw that it was wrong. I can't wait until I get it. Sorry, I just had to vent on this situation.
  • Hey blackjeep,
    I feel bad for you. Can't they just switch the windows with another one. Do you have the full metal doors. If yes you can also have them swith the entire doors.
    I would be pissed if I'd have to wait another month.
    Talk to the manager and be firm. If he doesn't want, tell him you'll remember that when the Daimler Chrysler survey comes in. Beleive me, for some unknown reason, when you mention survey, they start doing cart wheels.
    Keep us posted

    Dennis
  • The latest I read on the web says that the Wrangler is going to a modular top in 2002. A great idea considering all I've heard about removing the hard top. I'm assuming this is replacing the hard top and the soft top will still be available. Does anyone know if the modular top is going to be composite or metal/bolt on or integrated into the body? Will it be available aftermarket for earlier years?

    In 2003 they are switching to the new Cherokee platform, adding independent suspension, and going to a 3.? L engine. What car is that engine used in now? Sure it will be quieter and more economical, but worry if it will have enough torque.

    With the switch to IS, do you think the 2002 will be considered the last "real Jeep" or will Jeepsters embrace the '03?

    Am trying to decide if I should buy a 2001 a 2002 or a 2003.

    Thanks.
  • Look at the Jeep Icon concept vehicle. That is the type of modular top they are speaking of. The roof and roll bar are integrated. When you remove the pieces of the roof, only the rollbar remains (which is part of the roof). I would guess it would be a composite made like the new plastic top they are supposed to be testing this year. As for the IFS, if you wanna go rock crawling, get your Jeep before 2002.
  • Hey,
    I have a question, I have two options for getting a Wrangler. Option 1: 2000 TJ SE with 23 miles for $ 15,000 or a 97 TJ Sport with around 40,000 or so miles for $ 15,000. Both stick and soft top. Which one would be the better buy? I am concerned about the power of the 4cyl. Can anyone offer advice on what I should go for? Also, I plan to put 30-31 in tires on the TJ so with that in mind, will the 4 cyl be too bogged down? What is my better buy?
  • Yeah, I've seen the Icon and it definitely looks plastic. Have you seen the Mountain Biker concept? It seems to have a metal roof. It looks good to me.

    I hate the idea of buying a car the last year before a model change. It dates your car right away. If the 2003 is not a success though, then the 2002 may become a sought after year.
  • Removing the hardtop is not that difficult if you use a harness in your garage.
    The engine in the '03 Jeep is completely new engine as I understand it. So it is not used in any car now. The I6 is a proven engine and I would buy a 2001 and would not wait any longer.

    Dave
  • The 4 cyc should be fine as far power goes for off-roading. I don't think you will have a problem with 30 or 31's. I would try to go new if you can.
    I have a 6 cyc and will never own a 4 cyc jeep again. I think the 4 cyc sucks on the highway. I guess if you drive around 60 and maybe 70 you will be OK.
    Dave
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