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  • yes you did answer...and i realized that after i wrote back....ergh....

    as for trails...yes, i like to toss it around at speed. Safely, but always at max speed down those semi-smooth dirt roads. I would have an off road subaru impreza WRX if i could....heehee

    thanks for your help again
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I've been AWOL for a while. I'm delighted that Edmunds backed off on splitting up the Wrangler board - we've always had so much fun here, good to see things are/have gotten back to normal. It's taken me a while to get caught up in the couple of months that I've been involved with other things (but that's OK, I've got a bug that's kept me home, with extra time on my hands). I can't believe that the last time I was here was October!

    We're back to using the Unlimited as our daily driver ('04, 85,000 miles) - we found out the hard way that bicycles on freeways don't do nice things to low clearance vehicles. At least we don't have to worry about the roads - we've had snow several times all ready. The only adjustment has been to our budget - going from 36+ average mpg with the Fit to the 17+ (if its not windy) with the Unlimited is hard to take (sigh).
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I was worried we'd lost you when the forum was closed a few months back.

    I am glad to see you back! :)
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Welcome back! :)

    tidester, host
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    heck yeah. The old-school crew rolls on. BTW, what did you get for your '98 Sport when you sold it?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Good to see you back!

    -Paul
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Let me think about that - I've forgotten (arrh, the mind goes with age). I know it was more than I had originally planned on asking for it (until I looked here and elsewhere for used prices) but less than what I had advertised it for. It was more than the resellers who called me and offered me a figure over the phone, sight unseen offered. The guy who bought it was a Jeeper and his own mechanic - it went to a good home. I still sort-of miss it, while I appreciate the Unlimited on long drives, it's just not as FUN as the SWB Sport.

    P.S. Hi, Paul. We've already had snow a couple of times, along with some really strong winds - wild weather. You probably haven't missed a thing!
  • yjohnyjohn Posts: 32
    Anyone got a YJ gas tank? apparantly the "slosh resovior" has detached itself from the inside of my tank and i need a new one. Maybe a different jeep is a better option? :cry:
  • what's the story on bicycle vs. honda? You didn't elaborate
    and my curiosity has got the best of me.

    mike mmcs usn ret.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    apparantly the "slosh resovior" has detached itself from the inside of my tank and i need a new one.

    Not quite with you there, but a replacement tank is around $150 (about four times the cost of filling it :( )

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    YJ Tank
  • yjohnyjohn Posts: 32
    There is a plastic baffle directly below the fuel pump/sending unit that keeps gas from "sloshing" away from the fuel pump when below 1/4 tank and burning out the pump. Thanks for the lead on the replacement, but i need one for a 92, and that pic doesn't look like the same thing. I've looked high and low, but cannot find a replacement. But i spotted a couple on eBay :shades:
  • yjbobyjbob Posts: 56
    Harriet,
    Would you please compare the handling of your Honda with that of your jeeps on dry roads and in the snow? I am looking at the new Patriot (to add to my YJ), and I guess it would be closer to a Fit than a Wrangler in terms of handling.
    Bob
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    There we were, driving down I-5 on a dark rainy Friday before Christmas, just going to work at around 5 am. We were minding our own business, traveling at a safe 65 mph in the #2 lane (the lane on the left, the fast lane, is #1), when all of a sudden my husband said that he saw something in the lane. With wet roads, a car passing on the left and a truck on the right, there wasn't anywhere to go except over. The Fit Sport didn't make it over - the bike stuck under the car. We pulled off as fast as we practically could (dodging traffic) - I asked if I would get extra credit for clearing the highway, but they said it didn't count. All I can guess is that the bike fell off of someone's bike carrier, but we didn't see it fall off. Not much you can do in that situation - with the wet roads trying to do an emergency brake or trying to swerve might have been worse than it was.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I really like the Fit - it handles well on the road, but no off-roader (18 miles of unexpected more or less graded dirt road is quite bone-jarring - but that's another story). It's quieter than a Wrangler (doesn't take much for that, though), has pretty good pick-up and handles curves nicely. It's a fun little car to drive, with plenty of cargo space. We both find it comfortable (my 6 foot, good sized hubby and I'm 5 foot and small) for longer trips and I LOVE the 36-plus MPG I get on a regular basis. It's not a luxury car, but then neither is a Wrangler. We've put something like 35,000 miles on it since April (don't remember exactly, and come to think of it, I think it was due for an oil change. Since the repairs included an oil pan, does that mean the oil change is on the insurance company? Wonder if they'll reset the maintenance minder?). It makes a nice addition to the Wrangler, and a capable long distance commuter. It was just a bit difficult to get used to sitting so low.
  • Hi all -- I'm trying to get the backstory and analysis of the V6 engine. I've searched this discussion and haven't found the long and detailed discussion that I assume you all have had on the new Wrangler, especially the new engine. You have had this discussion, right?

    I've test-driven the automatic and the stick, and I'm stuck (pun intended). I'm also considering several other SUVs, some being more the crossover variety.

    An argument for the stick -- Passing power. Is the auto going to have trouble building speed?
  • Hey im Steve, i just turned 21 years old and im really looking for some help with deciding on a car.

    Actually im trying to decide whether i should buy a Wrangler or not.

    This Wrangler will be my everday commuter along with my offroad vehical. I guess my problem is deciding if jeeps are actually a viable choice given this scenario.

    I have had a jeep before, 91 Jeep Cherrokee and i loved it. The gas milage did hurt but it wasnt TO bad.

    Im really trying to have fun!! Ive been stuck working for the past two years and havent really had time to just, be 21 LOL.

    Im looking to spend about 13,000$ so i cant get a new one. In my price range im seeing anything from 97s up to 2000s.

    So i guess here are my questions.

    First and probably most important.

    Would you recommend me buying a Jeep Wrangler? Considering it will be my everyday commuter, my off road vehical, my car to go out with the ladies etc. etc. =)

    If so, is there a specific model or year i should go after ? Like i said im looking between 97s and 2000s. Do you you think there is a significant increase in the overall vehical from 97 to 2000 ?

    If not do you think i should try and save a little bit of cash and go for the 97 or spend the extra money and go for the 2000 ? (consider this purchase will be a significant buy for me, this has been my "fun savings" for two years)

    I guess thats it. Sorry for the huge essay.

    ANY advice will be of great appriciation!!

    Thanks again for your time.

    Best,
    Steve
  • Anybody know when the bestop hard top for the new '07 JK 2 Door will be available? Price? I can only imagine how superior it will be to that leaking DC "freedom top," which I am thankful for not ordering.

    damien
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Your question would really be best asked in the Jeep Wrangler forum where all the Wrangler enthusiasts hang out. :)
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Your question would really be best asked in ...

    Done. :)

    tidester, host
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Do you you think there is a significant increase in the overall vehical from 97 to 2000?

    Like any first build of a brand new model, the '97s were found to have many things that needed improving upon. It took until the middle of the '98 model year for this to get sorted out, so IMHO look for a '98.5 onward. The most noticeable visual change from the earlier build is the switch to rotary HVAC controls from the previous sliders, but there are a whole host of changes under the skin.

    The biggest problem found on '98.5 to 2000 was exhaust header cracking, but I can't imagine that there's one out there now that hasn't yet been fixed. Changes from year to year are generally invisible from the exterior. The most significant changes to the '00 compared the the '99 was a new header, different make of manual transmission, coil rail instead of plug leads and distributor cap, none of which you would notice from the drivers seat.

    So I'd say '98.5 onward. Generally, get as late a model as possible, but an excellent '99 would be a much better buy than an average '00. I should also add that there are many '97-'98.5s running around quite happily, and if I had to choose between one of those or no Jeep at all, I'd definitely pick one of those!
  • I have a 98...not sure when in 98 but I absolutely love it :D I had the exhaust header crack, but other than that its been great... oh and dont get the 4 cylinder, get the 4.0L
  • Just bought 01 Jeep Wrangler Sport for $11,500 w/53K miles. Was this a good deal? Also, can any one tell me what the standard features are? This one has no console, automatic, sound bar w/Polk Speakers, and aftermarket radio/CD. Also, can anyone suggest best cleaner for soft top and proper way to clean windows? Last, can anyone tell me best way to store windows and top when it is taken off? Thanks. Any advice is appreciated.
  • I'm really having a tough time figuring out the best way to air up and air down my tires for the trails (32"). I saw the post about the Truck Air, but I've seen mixed reviews of it and most other electrical compressors.
    Has anyone used the PowerTank? It looks like a great product, just a little on the pricey side.
    What do most of you use? Or do you just drive back to the local gas station to air back up?
    Thanks for the help,
    -Brian
  • Hello,
    I own a 2002 Wrangler X. My original tires on it are I believe 215 75 15. I would like to upgrade the tires to possibly 30X9.5X15 or 31X10.5X15. My question is which will work? I am curious if things like the odometer and speedometer will still be accurate. Also, which would be best to stay closest to my current fuel economy.
    Thank you,
  • the weather has been so mild here in new england i'd been driving around topless a few days here and there. two nights ago i left her out without putting the top back on. it rained. the next morning she started up fine, i just had a wet jeep (and behind). during the day my horn started going continuously until i unplugged it under the hood. when it was time to go home at the end of the workday she started up but the airbag light was now on. this is where it gets interesting... later in the night i had to move the jeep to let my roommate out of the driveway, but the jeep wouldn't start. the interior lights work. the stereo works. the headlights work. the key doesn't turn.

    my service station can sort me out monday morning, but i was wondering if anyone could guide me through a fix if it was a simple one.

    keeping my fingers crossed,
    jackson
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    The Truck Air is probably the best value in small 'plug in' type compressors, but it's certainly not the best choice.

    To get a more efficient (i.e. faster) solution, you need to spend more money, period. Possible options are 'On Board Air' which uses an A/C compressor driven by the engine, the same compressor driven by a heavy duty electric motor, the Power Tank (or put together your own CO² system using component parts), a similar system but using a scuba tank and compressed air, and of course there are many h/d electric systems like Viair.

    All the different systems have fairly obvious pros and cons, but it's hard to say one is 'better' than the other, just a question of which pros and cons suit you best.

    Of course the ultimate solution is buy an AMG H1 which comes with it's own CTIS (Central Tire Inflation System), which allows you to inflate and deflate the tires on each axle independently on the fly. It does cost a little more than a Power Tank though! :shades:

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  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    My question is which will work?

    Either will be fine.

    I am curious if things like the odometer and speedometer will still be accurate.

    No, but it can be corrected by changing the speedo drive gear in the transfer case.

    Also, which would be best to stay closest to my current fuel economy.

    The 30x9.5x15.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    That's a text book example of what happens when the dash, steering wheel and column get wet. Drying out is required obviously, but you may end up having to have the clock spring replaced. The clock spring resides at the top of the column and allows the wheel to remain electrically connected while turning.
  • I was showing some friends where I go wheeling. We where on top of a hill where you can look down on the entire area. I saw and Jeep Cherokee muddying and from my stand point he should not have been out there. Look like dad's daily driver going for a joy ride. Well sure enough they got stuck! A hummer and Mercedes SUV drove past him on a dry parallel trail and never stopped to help. :mad: So... I drove down into the mudpit to pull him out. A 16 year old boy rolls down the window and says... I am from arkansas. Like that is suppose to be an excuse for being an idiot. Got him out but not happy with those to inconsiderate fatherless people in the Hummer and Mercedes... maybe there were afraid of getting stuck. Have pictures... not sure how to post them. I have a 4-door JK
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,154
    The easiest way to post pics is to host them on your CarSpace album and either send people there or link to them. There's even a copy/paste linking box there for pasting your photos in here.

    Lots of the mudholes down South have rocky bottoms, so maybe that's his excuse? Not too swift driving through something when you don't know what's underneath you though. Good karma (Jeepma?) for you!

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