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Jeep Wrangler



  • I had trouble getting in and out of 4-lo with my 2000 automatic. The trick was being in neutral and that little bit of forward motion. After I got the hang of that, no trouble. It seems funny to me you have to have the motion to get it to work. What if you are stuck, or I can imagine off road situations where you can't move.


  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    You're welcome, but you should have also gotten lots of good advice from Mac and the rest gang. I guess I'm just more vocal in my love for Jeeps than most. :)


    I think you would just have to check the laws in NY about being doorless. Some states have side mirror requirements, but that can be overcome with mirror relocator brackets.


    As far as taking the top off, it is a two man job. Even for a standard wheel base Wrangler, the hard top is HEAVY and AWKWARD. The longer top for an Unlimited would be even heavier.


    I have the hard top only on my Thelma Jane, and it works out pretty well for me. But, when I take the top off, I try to stay topless all summer. Taking the top off and putting it back on are not jobs that you would want to do every day or two.


    Good luck in your pursuit of a Jeep! You will NEVER be sorry if you get one. Ain't nothin' like 'em!!!


    Deifinitely keep us posted on your progress, OK? Ask any and all questions that come to mind.




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Yikes! You're going have Tom salivating! ;-)


    tidester, host
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    The Hurricane makes for a good offroad toy:




    But I'd prefer the Gladiator as an all round daily driver:








    Jeep ® Gladiator Preliminary Specifications:


    Vehicle Weight: 4,150 lb (est.)

    Length: 205" (5,207 mm)

    Wheelbase: 138.4" (3,515 mm)

    Front Overhang: 28.3" (718 mm)

    Rear Overhang: 38.3" (974 mm)

    Width (MAX): 76.6" (1,947 mm)

    Height: 74.8" (1,900 mm)

    Track, Frt/Rr: 65.6"/66.2"

    Bed Length: 5’ 8" (1,725 mm)

       (midgate expanded) – 6’ 8" (2,026 mm)

       (expanded w/ tailgate down - minimum) - 8’ 11" (2,723 mm)


    xxxxxxxxxxEngine: 2.8L 1-4 Turbo Dieselxxxxxxxxxxxxx


    Part time 4x4; Manual 5-speed Trans.



    Front - Solid Axle w/ 5 bar links

    Single coil springs

    Rear - Solid Axle w/ 5 bar links

    Dual Coilover Springs

    Ground Clearance - 13.7" (348 mm)

    Front/Rear Tire Size: 265/75R18"

    Wheel Size: 18" x 8"

    I can honestly say that if it was available now, there'd be one in my driveway!
  • I'm looking at purchasing an 05 Rubicon, any pro's and con's on these? Are they worth the money?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Don't think you'll find many people dissing the Rubicon here.


    How about some more specific questions. Are you wondering about the vehicle in general, or are you thinking of it in comparison to other Wrangler models?
  • Thanks Paul for the advice on steps. I did a little more research and came across a guy that was unhappy that the suggested bars could not support the weight of the jeep. Beyond my needs, so that did not discourage. I ordered the bars. Will let you know how they work-out. Another one: my daughter is 5'5'', and sits low. I have seen the aluminum seat lift kits available for sale. Any thoughts on those? Also seen plastic versions.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I would DEFINITELY buy a Gladiator. I showed it to my wife a couple of weeks ago and she even liked it-and she usually hates pickup trucks!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    Welcome to this board.


    Sounds like you are just in your initial stages of thinkin' Jeep, right? You are considering it along with some other vehicles?


    Have you ever owned a short wheel base Jeep? They are unlike any other vehicle, and you have to be a "Jeep person" to like them. There are sacrifices to be made in terms of room, comfort, and fuel economy compared to other vehicels when you own a Wrangler. The regulars here would all say the sacrifices are well worth it for the pure fun that a Jeep brings into your life.


    Test drive, read old posts, give it some more thought, then some more specific questions might come to mind. We would all love to "talk Jeep" with you, so you won't have any problem in getting your questions answered here. Ask away!


    Oh, the Rubicon is loaded with features that make it more capable offroad. It's up to you whether or not you need those features or want those features. For most people's offroading, the standard Wrangler does fine.


  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I have a 97 and my seats already sit up quite a bit. I'm very happy with them and don't need the risers. I think mtngal could address this one, as she has a new Unlimited and is a bit shorter than me and could tell you if they would be worth it (I don't know if she has risers). If I WERE to get them, I'd probably opt for the aluminum ones. I wouldn't want the plastic under me breaking in the event of an accident.


    Which bars did you end up ordering? I'm curious. I have the Toys by Troy ones.


    I have pictures in my Webshots: under 97 Wrangler.


  • dave__dave__ Posts: 80
    Those rockers look really nice! I had not considered rockers when I first got my Jeep but after a few months of people telling me it's hard to get in while grinding their shoes on my door sill I'm starting to reconsider. That and they really do look great.


    Yours in Jeep Coolness,


  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    When I bought them, I wanted something that looked nice and was functional. Those rockers made great sense for me.


    There are several manufacturers of this style like Toys by Troy (mine), AEV, Poison Spyder, FourXDoctor, and a few others that I know are there, but can't think of the name. :) At the time I ordered, the FourXDoctor ones were new and the Poison Spyder's weren't powdercoated yet.


    All are a bit pricy, but the protection they offer the lower rocker is worth it. And, like you said, they look great (better than nerfs IMO).


  • gman1259gman1259 Posts: 209
    Sweet!!! But you thing the Wrangler has no storage....
  • I went with the Reverse-A-Bar for the added step. I assume they mount lower, and will not require removal of the front splash guard. Again, we are not expecting to get off-road anytime soon with our shiny black 2005, so the clearance is not a concern now...


    I hear the more recent models have the seats mounted lower (not sure if that is correct).
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Thanks for the info on the 4 low - we'll try putting the tranny into neutral and see if that helps. If not we'll take it into the dealer - it is still under warranty.


    The seating is definitely different than it was in 1998. I prefer the seats in the '98 - they fit me better. I haven't yet purchased a seat lift kit, but I'm planning on it as soon as I get back. I had hesitated because I thought I would go with a separate back support/seat type of thing, but the bottom of the one I have isn't as comfortable at the Unlimited's seat bottom.


    I think that the earlier seats offered more lower back support. The new ones are comfortable (not too hard on the bottom but still supportive). The seatbacks seem to be designed for bigger people all the way around, where the '98 seats seem to fit my back perfectly.


    Both those concepts are interesting in various ways. That Gladiator is REALLY nice - I'd also buy that in a heartbeat. The other one isn't practical for me - I can't afford a dedicated off-road vehicle.


    Since the Rubicon vs. regular Wranglers was brought up - my 2 cents is that they are really nice vehicles and I continue to dream about one. It would cost more to modify a Sport to Rubicon's specs than to buy the Rubicon itself. However, I've been perfectly happy off-roading my current stock Sport and Unlimited and don't feel an overwhelming desire for the extra equipment the Rubicon offers. So for me it isn't cost-effective.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    "Thanks for the info on the 4 low - we'll try putting the tranny into neutral and see if that helps. If not we'll take it into the dealer - it is still under warranty."




    You guys were trying to switch in and out of 4 low without having the tranny in neutral??? Maybe something has changed, but as far as I know, the tranny has always needed to be in neutral to switch in and out of 4 low.


    Going into and out of 4 Hi is fine with the tranny in gear, but not for 4 Low.


    I could be wrong, and, if so, please correct me someone. Check your owners manual, Harriet. I think it will tell you to have the tranny in neutral and that having the Jeep rolling just a couple miles per hour helps too.




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Tom:


    Yeah actually I just started looking at the Rubi. Currently I have an 00 Mustang and have narrowed my search down to 2 cars... A 05 Subaru WRX and the 05 Jeep Rubicon. It's a really hard choice both are in the same price range. With a Jeep no more drag races at Bristol =( haha. Oh and no i've never owned a mom has a Jeep Grand Cherokee, if I do get one I definately want the short wheel base rubi not the unlimited. Also all the 4 wheel drive vehicles we have had ford, chevy, jeep all have to be in neutral before you can shift in and out of 4 wheel low.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    Hey, a ride in a topless/doorless Jeep on a nice day is just about the ULTIMATE! It's not like riding around in a ragtop car with the top down. It's even BETTER for some reason. Maybe because you sit up nice and high in a Jeep, and with the doors off, well, it's just a feeling you have to experience for yourself to understand just how cool it is.

    I owned a 99 Mustang LX 5.0 convertible, so I do have a basis for comparison.


    Also, if you want to do some offroading, then there is no question that the Jeep is for you. Jeeps are truly amazing as far as what they will do and where they will go.




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Can't you tell this is the first auto we've own in 10 years, and the first auto 4x4 ever? Never had this issue with the 5 speed.


    I can understand the WRX and the Wrangler being your two short-listed vehicles - they share an important characteristic. They are both FUN vehicles! And if that is what you are looking for then a short wheelbase is definitely the way to go. Adding all the extras on the Rubi allows you to have fun in more places.


    We haven't had any problems with the soft top in the snow, and the Unlimited is definitely sure-footed in the snow. I've even found out tonight that you can put a pair of (relatively) short skis inside the vehicle without problems. But longer skis could be a problem, especially if there was someone in the back seat. Does anyone use a ski rack? This is something completely new to me.
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