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  • I have an 05 unlimited with auto tranny...I must say its the smoothest auto transmission i have ever owned and Ive owned at least 15 vehicles. I for one am through shifting and clutching as in my highschool days...and the new auto tranny was well worth the extra $$$ imo.....
  • Mtngal,

    You mentioned the seats being low in the unlimited. I feel the exact same way in my Unlimited. Im 6' and it just feels like im sitting way lower than i should. The comfort of the seats are ok, could be better, with my wish being a moveable headrest and height adjustable seats....My wife is 5' and she is having a tough time seeing out the front, i guess im getting some phone books for her to sit on...LOL.....
  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    Thanks folks - I too find the seats a tad low, but figured a cushion would be plenty for me (I used to fly De Havilland Beavers in the boonies, and that seat was kind of low for my liking too, so that's where the cushion idea came from :) ).

    I like the sounds of that tranny. I must admit, on the test drives, I've been very impressed with it.

    Mtngal - now THAT is a commute (glad I don't have to do that - our gas just went to 83 cents per litre)!!! LOL OK, I'm convinced. Do the '04's have the manifold cracking problem too, and if so, is Chrysler good about replacing them under warranty?


  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    The manifolds were re-designed in either 2000 or 2001, so the problem isn't prevalent any more. I think we replaced the Sport's manifold in 02 and haven't had any more problem with it (we didn't do anything about it until it needed a smog certificate - I thought it wouldn't pass if I didn't get it fixed). It was out of warranty by the time it started to have problems, but I heard that others had no problem.
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    Most states have an Office of Consumer Protection. I would recommend contacting them for advice/filing a complaint. Also, I would not hesitate calling your State Rep. for advice. Also, your Chief States Att. office may be able to provide you with direction. Be certain you have "all" the details before calling the above folks. Good Luck. John
  • Hi I'm also trying to decide between a unlimited and the sport. I am leaning to the sport as I can get ABS with it and ABS is not an option on the unlimited.My commute is on rain slicked under constant construction rain slicked florida roads with aggressive insane drivers where having to break rather quickly is not uncommon so the ABS would come in handy. But you mention that the unlimited is less skittish than the sport. My monthly mileage is nothing like yours, more like a 1000 miles a month tops.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Those extra inches on the Unlimited makes a very big difference with its stability - it still amazes me how much. However, I can understand your desire for ABS. I notice the difference most on freeways - it isn't as significant under 45 mph. If most of your driving is going to be either off-road or in town, it might not make much difference. Best thing to do, if you can, is to try to do a longer test drive and include some higher speeds back to back. Then decide what you can live with and what you prefer.
  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    Thanks for the info once again mtngal. I've done a number of test drives with the Unlimited and found it fine to handle on the highway (up to 80 kph/50mph). I've seen on other forums where a number of folks have had problems with water getting in from somewhere, usually during a rain. Have you had any problems that way?

    Thanks again,

  • Hey mtngal, thanks for the info. By the way I'm driving a old old toyota 4x4 pickup pre tacoma so the jeep ride can't be that much more skittish. I'll take then both out for test drives and decide.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I haven't had any problem with water getting into the Unlimited. The only time I've had problems with the Sport is when the tailgate was loose (now fixed) or when my other half forgot to roll up the window (oops!).

    And I can say that from lots of experience - we've certainly had LOTS of rain this year!
  • My Bridgestone Revo A/T are going to be installed sunday morning. I checked them out today and the All Terrains looked real tough, so I don't need to get the Mud Terrain Revo. These tires are rated best in all categories, the AT better than the MT in all except mud of course. With excellent hydroplane resistance. I am skiing on Friday using the free jeep lift voucher with the Revo and the skis on my Sierra rack, I expect a dry drive to Bear Mountain.
  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    "or when my other half forgot to roll up the window (oops!)."

    LOL - glad I've never done that (believe me? Wanna buy some "land" :)??).

    Sounds very good. Guess I gotta go see my Jeep dealer again this week. Thanks VERY much for all the info! This has really helped a lot.

  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    Jefferson, mtngal and dphoto,

    I ordered a set of 1 inch Buchannan seat risers for $55. They are solid aircraft grade aluminum blocks complete with grade 8 hardware. Takes about 30 minutes to install. I highly recommend them. Before I installed them I could barely see the front of my hood.

    Buchannan also makes them ini 1 1/2 and 2 inch sizes. Definitely one of the best mods I never think about...If you do a search on here, I think you'll find his contact information. Just about everyone I know on the Rubicon Owner's Forum runs them as well.
  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    Good stuff Keats! Appreciate this info. Will it have any effect on a warranty (mfg's are getting kind of sticky about that these days)?

    By the by, one other question I have about TJ's in general, and keep forgetting to ask, is about the resale value and ability of these. I'm thinking if in 4 years I decide I don't want a jeep any longer (i.e. if the sun starts to rise in the west :) ), how well do these machines hold their value, and how easy is it to sell a specialized vehicle such as these? Even for a trade-in for another (new) TJ, will you get good value for the trade-in?

    Thanks - appreciate this!

  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    Anyone here heard of the "Death Wobble" and know what it is? Sounds kind of ominious?

  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    That's a somewhat overstated term used to describe vibrations in a vehicle at high speeds (notably some Jeeps) and is often the result of lifting the suspension or loose and worn suspension and steering components.

    tidester, host
  • gdphotogdphoto Posts: 20
    Ahh, ok. Thanks - it sounded pretty serious and somewhat like if you encountered it, you were all but toast :). Just wondering how common it was and if it was a dangerous thing that I'd need to watch out for on the Unlimited (stock).

    Appreciate the heads-up.

  • jeepheadjeephead Posts: 49
    My CEL has been on for a few days, so I went to Autozone to use their free service. The guy that helped me said that I had a bad O2 sensor, but couldn't determine which one of the three it was. He said that I should look at them, and would be able to tell by looking at them which one was bad. I need help: I have no idea where to locate all three, and haven't the foggiest idea of what a "bad" O2 sensor looks like. Any help would be appreciated!

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Tidester, I think you might have downplayed this a little. It CAN be very serious, but not on a stock Wrangler. The term doesn't really even apply to a stock Wrangler.

    Two N Glenn, death wobble occurs on Jeeps that have had suspension lifts and larger tires installed. From all of my reading, it appears that there can be a number of causes for it. A loose trac bar can cause it. Getting the drag link and trac bar too far from parallel can cause it. Control arms too short for the lift can cause it.

    One of my good Jeep Buds had it on his 04 Rubicon after he installed a lift and 33" tires. A friend of his was driving right behind him and said the front wheels were sawing back and forth so bad that he could see the entire wheel as the tire made its swing to each side! In his case, it took adjustable control arms to correct the problem.

    The castor of his front wheels was thrown off by the lift. Castor is the position of the wheels front to back. The axle is connected to the frame by control arms. As the frame is lifted with the installation of a suspension lift, the attachment point of the axle to the frame is raised. This has the effect of pulling the front wheels toward the back of the Jeep, and, depending on how high the lift raises the frame, it is sometimes necessary to correct this with longer control arms, or adjustable control arms.

    I guess to sum it up, death wobble is caused by bad steering geometry or by something loose in the steering/suspension system. It is sometimes not at all an easy task to find out the cause. You can think you have it, and then you hit a bump out on the highway just right, and there you go. The steering wheel saws back and forth and all you can do is ride it out.

    The good news is that DC produces our Jeeps with the proper steering geometry and everything properly tightened, so no need to be concerned about death wobble, as long as you are stock.


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  • The factory specs were 7 inch rims with 225 x 75 x15 GSA. The Bridgestone Revo tires are 30 x 9.50 x 15. The result is an increase of 1 inch ground clearance. The Tire is about 2 inches taller and treadwithd of 3/4 inch wider.
    Original speedo erro 0f 1.75 mph is now zero. I can still get 5th gear at only 45 mph. I notice a slight acceleration loss on 3rd gear. Other gears no noticeable difference. Ride slightly stiffer on bumps. The overall look is much improved, it looks even tougher than the 30 x 9.50 GSA on the sahara's because the Revo have a more agressive look and somehow are 1/2 inch taller. also standard gear ratio is 3.07 only.
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