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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    This is just opinion, but that's what you aked for, ain't it? :)

    I would stick with Warn, and I would get a minimum of 8000 lb capacity.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. The best deals I have ever heard of on Warn winches came from
  • myboybluemyboyblue Posts: 56
    Thanks Tomster,

    Just trying to get my girl ready for TB. She probable wont be ready till fall, but she is starting to look pretty good. I have seen you have posted a few pics. Is there somewhere on here that give you a step by step precidure on how to post pics?
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    What you guys say about Coach Fran is the same thing Ole Miss fans say about Tommy Tubberville when he left for Auburn. My wife is an Ole Miss alumni and I thought we had a great game day tradition at OU, but man, they know how to party in Oxford. If you've never been to a game there, and more importantly, the party in the Grove, you're really missing out.
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    John, there is someone with your handle, "Koolbreeze" over at Jeeps Unlimited and his avatar is from South Park. You know the site I mean?
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    Today I finally learned about the impracticality of driving a Jeep. My wife was coming back from picking up our son and his friend from a 2 week summer camp in our 2004 Grand Cherokee. She got into town and stopped at the ATM and when she got back in the car, the key wouldn't turn in the ignition. So, she called me and I drove over, thinking we just needed to do the steering wheel trick. Nothing worked. Called Chrysler, did what they asked and nothing worked. Had to tow the Grand Cherokee to the dealership, but had to leave all of their luggage in it, since it would not begin to fit in my Rubicon with the four of us. Luggage hasn't been an issue since I've had it, because I never travel in it.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    "Just trying to get my girl ready for TB. She probable wont be ready till fall, but she is starting to look pretty good. I have seen you have posted a few pics. Is there somewhere on here that give you a step by step precidure on how to post pics?"


    Guess you missed it, but post 18,233 tells ya how to post pics.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • rpinks_99rpinks_99 Posts: 6
    John: Thanks for the comments. The description of your JEEP lettering is really interesting. Would love to see a picture if/when you can.

    I laughingly told my salesperson that unless he wanted to pay me for advertising, that my Jeep, upon delivery, better not have any decals/logos on it. Surprise, surprise, surprise....there, right above the left rear taillight, was their logo. Apparently it had just recently been added, and (the poor) salesman sheepishly pulled it off under my critical, watchful eyes. I also hate anything of a non-personal item on my vehicles....especially....

    BUGS! (did I mention I hate them???)

    My eXcalibur...dings in another year? Help me I hope not. I've been known to drive around the block to avoid a water sprinkler that's wetting the road....I hear the voices in the forum now saying; "and he bought a Jeep"??? I know, I know....I promise I'll take it, maybe.

    2x4's bolted to a hood? Yep, that's versatile, but I'm only imagining they're used as a cargo rack? The things I learn here! :)

  • rpinks_99rpinks_99 Posts: 6
    That seems to be one of life's little tricks played on us from time to time; learning the hard way about little things that didn't come to mind earlier. When I got my (former) Ranger P/U several years ago, my wife and I went to an antique mall about 150 miles from home. Never ONCE thinking about taking along a tarp in case it....rained. Which it did. In torrents. So much for the upholstery on the Queen Anne chair...and the other stuff that got soaked. Groan....

    Can't tell you how many times, back in my motorcycle days, I left for day trips with no rain gear in my saddlebags. As if the first time it happened didn't teach me a lesson.

    Hope the Grand Cherokee's problem wasn't too severe.

  • keatskeats Posts: 412

    I don't think it's that crazy. Cars are expensive and should be cared for accordingly.

    I'm with you and John on the dealership decals. I peeled them off at soon as I got home. I also removed the dealership license plate holder. When I went back to pick up my vehicle tag, the guy tried to put another one on! And Wranglers come with one already!
  • karlw90karlw90 Posts: 59
    ... I've been calling/visiting several tire shops in my area, and it seems none are willing to except my GSA's for a trade-in. Most shops flatly state, "we don't buy tires", while a few said they only buy tires if they have 300 miles or less on them. Mine currently have 800.

    Has anyone traded in their GSA's with 800 (or more) miles on them?? How much did you get?? And what Tire shop bought them from you (I'm in Chicagoland area.. so if its a local place outside of that area, that won't help) I want to switch them out with some 31x10.5 BFG A/T's, but I would hate to get absolutely nothing for tires that just have 800 miles on them. Help!

    Also, so far I have been quoted at around $130/tire, and I've read some people getting all 4 changed and realigned for around $375??
  • karlw90karlw90 Posts: 59
    ...sorry to post 2 in a row, but I need to get rid of the nasty, gawdy dealership decal they placed above my left taillight. It seems its on there pretty good. Any tips on getting it off? I remember reading about hair dryers.. does that really work? I want to get it off before it affects the paint job... thanks again!
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,025
    There's some info in the archives:

    Badge/emblem removal techniques

    Steve, Host
  • embeedueceembeeduece Posts: 260
    Funny, I think the dealer decals and emblems are a regional thing. They were on every car back in New England, but out here in L.A. dealers by and large don't do that. At most, they slap on a dealership plate holder, and in the case of the TJ they provided a dealership tire cover. Both of which I promptly discarded.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    "Hey everyone! Took Thelma today to have some 31 inch tires put on her. I got the 31 x 10.5 BF Goodrich All Terrain TA's, like old Tonkadave did.

    I couldn't believe the deal they gave me, and I jumped all over it. It was going to be $641 for five new tires, mounted, balanced, and tax included. I was ready to forget it, but I went to the tire store to let them see what they could allow me on Thelma's 30's for trade in.

    The spare was new, and they gave me $95 for it. The four that were on Thelma had 10,500+ miles on them, and they gave me $83 apiece on them!

    Bottom line, I got five new 31 x 10.50 BF Goodrich All Terrain TA's mounted, balanced, and tax included for $188.63."


    Can you believe that deal??? Well, when I decided that I wanted mud tires instead of all terrain, I went back there and got a super deal again, but not as good as this one.

    My tire salesman said the other day that they have been told that they cannot give those huge trade-in allowances any more. So, even at that place, I guess I could never come close to getting such good deals again.

    Good luck. You are attempting to get yourself a really, really good tire. If I didn't do so much off roading, I would have stayed with those BFG AT's. They are great tires.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    Keats, must be someone else. I don't know the site. How do I get into it? Is it all Jeep related? John
  • 99tj99tj Posts: 187
    Karl, I was able to get the BFG ATs for abour $108 a tire (in CT).
    They were "on sale" and I recieved 5% off each tire because of where I work.

    The dealer gave me a little over $100 for my GSA spare that never touched the ground. I basically got a 5th (spare) for free. The rest of my tires were shot.

  • margfmargf Posts: 2
    Hi, I'm new to the forum. Yesterday I traded in my beloved '91 Wrangler YJ for a new Unlimited that won't be delivered for a couple of days. The only real reason for the trade was that my YJ doesn't have air and we're facing a summer of 100deg. temps. I can't do another one like this! The dealer gave me a loaner, a Sport, to drive until my Unlimited is ready. I've spent the past 18 hours trying to talk myself out of cancelling the whole deal. The outside is okay -- not great, just okay. The inside looks like they've tried to make a car out of the model! The cockpit is so cramped and poorly designed that I'm pretty much going to have to gut the whole interior to make it acceptable. The seat slopes backward and is so low that it pinched a nerve in my thigh and I was in agony by the time I got home. I can barely see over the dash. The molded crap on the door is so intrusive that I have a bruise on my elbow (okay, partly due to a little temper outflare). There's no way I'm keeping the airbags -- if they ever deploy they'll kill me because the steering wheel is two inches from my neck. Besides, if you check the stats they don't do anything (positive) anyway; only "save" (a calculated estimate) those people who are too stupid or lazy to put on their seat belts. My knees are not quite but nearly jammed against that molded plastic that extends down the whole front of the driver's cockpit. I checked -- there's very little back there and nothing will be lost if I just remove it and fabricate a far smaller covering from fiberglass. The console is a joke. The windshield is no longer vertical but slopes backward.

    I do like the tilt of the seat to access the back, but I won't be carrying passengers, so the whole rear seat will go into storage permanently. I also like the intermittent wipers. All I wanted was manual transmission, a hardtop and air conditioning, in that order, but by looking so late in the season I was stuck with a convenience package I didn't want. Most of that is frivolous, but the security part is good.

    I'm sorry to make my first post such a rant; I'm just so profoundly disappointed in Chrysler for doing this to the Wrangler! I've looked at several other vehicles, and frankly this was just the best of an extremely bad lot that's out there. In order to make it acceptable to me I'm going to have to do some extensive modifications to my brand new Jeep. I want my old Jeep back!!!
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    I will post a picture when I figure out how to do it. Yup, the 2x4's were for cargo.Try easy dirt roads first. That will give you a taste. What state are you in? Do you have acess to dirt roads? John
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    You should be able to simply peel it off with your fingernail on a nice hot day. Just experiment with one of the letters first. Be careful with the hairdryer. Just go easy with it if you use it. J
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I won't try to argue the various points you raise as you seem pretty convinced of your point of view (damn those wretched air bags! :mad: ). I'm really not sure how you managed to do this deal without being aware of the changes to the Wrangler in the last fourteen years, but I really think you should do what you can to undo it.

    I don't see you ever being happy with the Unlimited given your requirements but....................wait a minute, my 'other' vehicle would be perfect for you. Six way adjustable seats, excellent a/c, no airbags, truly vertical windshield, you can rest your elbow on the door when the window is down, no problem seeing over the dash, and it definitely doesn't look like a car. Oh, but you need a manual so I guess you won't be getting an H1 after all. ;)
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