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2008 Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Grand Caravan

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  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    The MyGIG is VERY EASY. If Consumer Reports thought the MyGIG was hard they must have problems with a standard AM/FM radio also because it is very simple.

    I agree with you on that. I recently bought a different Chrysler vehicle with MyGIG. It seems fairly easy to use even though it came with a big separate manual. Someone on the forums said it was difficult to add a SAT station preset but I don't see what the problem is - it's very easy for me to do.

    BTW, if you have the MyGIG with nav there is an application update to v9.561 available if you do a Google search. Among other things, it removes that annoying Accept screen that you have to press whenever you turn on the radio. The screen still pops up but it disappears by itself after 5 seconds.

    Maybe someday Chrysler will even fix that link in the owner's manual for the www.chrysler.com/mygig to go to someplace useful other than a Sebring MyGIG information page.
  • lilvbclilvbc Posts: 15
    Thanks so much for the insight, everyone. Please keep the reviews coming. I'm ready to lease a new one, just need to find a fully loaded T/C Limited, black/beige in my area... :mad:
  • Has anyone had problems with the tail gate and sliding doors being open when returning to the van. We purchased a 2008 TC touring van in Oct. and a few times we have came out and the tailgate is lifted, it was closed when we put it in the garage. Last night while visiting we came out later and the sliding door was open, it was closed when we went into the house. How can this happen? We thought maybe the button was being pressed when in our pocket but it would have to be pressed twice for the doors to open. We are in wonder??? We have just been lucky it has not happened at a shopping Mall.
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    Some of the 07 Chrysler Pacifica's with the 4.L engine & 6 speed Automatic have recalls on the tourque coverters. There is a shuddering at 1200 rpm and 2000 rpms. Has anyone had this on the Caravan or Town & Country?

    farout
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Has anyone had problems with the tail gate and sliding doors being open when returning to the van.

    This is the first time I've heard about the doors opening on their own. I have read two cases where the sliding door was partially open and the owner did not immediately notice and the van did not give any feedback when he/she locked the doors with the remote and thought everything was secure.

    You might call Chrysler customer assistance at 1-800-992-1997 and report the problem if you have a few minutes to spare. Yours might not be an isolated incident but if the company doesn't know this is happening they won't take any steps to fix the problem and possibly issue a recall to correct the defect.
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    I just got my new T&C Limited this week, and now have close to 500 miles. I will still write a more detailed view, but for now in short.

    I was also very angry at CR at first, but now I must admit that they'rw quite right with their review. While I could not test braking distance and handling tracks, I must that the handling is not what I was hoping for - even my old Dodge GC was much better. It feels like a heavy truck. And WHAT'S UP WITH THE NVH ISSUES? A brand new van with the new 4.0L engine should vibrate like a 6-year old van? And why is it SOOO noisy when revved during acceleration?

    And if you have the MyGig along with the Navigation system and bluetooth (Uconnect), you'll also have to admit that it's quite complicated - well, it's not iDrive, but still.... I would have about at least 20 recommendations to ease operation and make the text on LCD more useful. What more do you need that there is an extra thick owner's manual just for the MyGig system? Tons and tons of features in one 6.5" LCD with just 10 hard buttons? Where ia Hansienna? He used to like Chrysler for putting separate controls for adjusting bass & treble... ha ha ha... You now have to press MENU on the side of the LCD. and press "Audio control" with a push on the LCD, then press "Equalizer", and then you have PUSH BUTTON controls on the LCD to adjust the EQ to your likings........

    But otherwise, this van is terrific. Beautiful inside, the ride is smooth, and there are so many features in this van, I hope I will be able to learn at least half of them in the next few months...

    Still, if I would have worked for Chrysler design team (Note: now in fantasy land), I would have a lot of improvements to offer... For instance, the controls for the auto temperature are so....um.... again, complicated.... placed very low on the dashboard, with many tiny buttons which looks similar to each other.... and some other minor things....

    OK for now... more details to follow.... (a positive review)..
  • vex321vex321 Posts: 16
    Hey guys

    I picked up by 08 T&C Touring a few days ago and I was wondering if anyone else encountered the same problem

    The ESP BAS and the light right next to it ( one that looks like a little car slipping ) came on at about 50 miles and its not going away..
    Does anyone know what this means?

    At around 10 miles it came on briefly then went away so I didnt give it much thought. Now its been there for about 10 miles...

    Can anyone help?
    Should I goto the dealer? ( I would hate to take another day off from work for this...argg. )

    Thanks in advance for any help
  • I am purchasing a minivan for my wife in the next 6 - 8 months. I am reviewing the Odyssey, Sienna and Entourage. My wife really loves the '08 T&C, but the reports of "unfixable" transmission problems with prior T&C models is causing me to push her towards the Odyssey, which is her least favorite.

    Has anyone heard anything regarding transmission and/or other engine related issues on the '08 T&Cs?

    I will take a chance on any other mechanical, non-engine related issue, within reason, as long as I have a warranty to cover the first 5-6 years; but I will not take a chance on my wife being stranded.

    Thanks for the replies.
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    You can find what these mean in your owner's manual but...

    ESP stands for Electronic Stability Program. This system enhances directional control and stability of the vehicle under various driving conditions.

    BAS stands for Brake Assist System. The BAS is designed to optimize the vehicle's braking capability during emergency braking maneuvers.

    If the ESP/BAS warning light comes on continuously with the engine running, a malfunction has been detected in either the ESP or BAS system, or both. If this light remains on after several ignition cycles, and the vehicle has been driven several miles at speeds greater than 30 mph see your authorized dealer as soon as possible to have the problem diagnosed and corrected.

    I would hate to take another day off from work for this...argg.

    If you have to leave your vehicle with the dealer they should furnish you with a FREE rental vehicle while it is being serviced, as this problem is covered under the warranty. Refer to your owner's manul for more details on the ESP and BAS functions.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    but the reports of "unfixable" transmission problems with prior T&C models is causing me to push her towards the Odyssey, which is her least favorite

    This hasn't been a problem for almost 10 years now, and the main issue was garages using the wrong tranny fluid, causing all the issues. I haven't had issue in any of mine.....96, 99 (company vehicles I abused) and my personal 2005. The current 6 spd (no other minivan manufacturer offers one btw) has been used in the Pacifica for over a year without any issues.

    Check out other forums on here, the other guys have had their issues too i.e...Ody. You get a far better warranty on the Chrysler - Lifetime!! Not Shabby. I'm itching for a 2008 T&C Limited myself
  • Thanks for the feedback. That does make me more comfortable.

    Does anyone else share the same experiences as dennisctc?
  • maryh3maryh3 Posts: 263
    My wife really loves the '08 T&C, but the reports of "unfixable" transmission problems with prior T&C models is causing me to push her towards the Odyssey, which is her least favorite.

    If you are concerned about transmission issues - don't go for an Odyssey. If you like the feel of the Odyssey - that would be a legitimate reason to buy one, but the Odyssey is having some pretty bad transmission issues - go read the thread under the "Odyssey transmission issues". It is suspected that Odyssey will have transmission issues until at least 2006. We won't know until they get a few miles behind them but to buy an Odyssey over a T&C due to transmission problems is going from the pot to the frying pan. If anything, the Sienna transmission fares better than an Odyssey's.

    My experience with Chrysler vans is that the older ones, pre 2000 did have some transmission issues and I knew some people who replaced them back in the mid 90's. However, they made a great number of changes to the models around the year 2000 and they no longer have the problems with the transmissions that the older models had. I just crossed 175,000 miles on my original transmission (2000 T&C) -- seeing no problems with it at all. I flush it every 60,000 miles and that is it. I ordered a new 08 T&C and am patiently awaiting its arrival.
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    For whatever it's worth, we have a 2007 pacifica with the same 4 L V-6 and the 6 speed automatic that the T&C has. We have AWD as well. The engine has more power than our 4.7 V-8 in the Dakota we had! The 6 speed automatic is smooth and will allow you to drop the rpm's to about 1200 rpm, which gets the MUCH BETTER mpg.
    However, my dealership Service Manager had the Torque Conveter replaced because he felt the tranny was shuddering. I in retro thought believe that the engine at the low rpm's luggs somewhat, which at I think it the shudder some people are bothered by.
    Having has 18 Chrysler vehicles the transmissions that were not the best were the 3 speed automatic's that came in the Neon's and the Caravans. These were dropped 2003. We had two tranmissions in our 96 Neon and the last one put in at 89,000 miles was a Chrysler remanifactured. Our Neon now has 196,000 miles on it. We have Changed the fluid and filter every 30,000 miles and only at a Chrysler dealership shop.
    Also we have learned (at least it has been for us) to let only a Chrysler dealership work on our vehicles, it's no more expensive then any other shop, and the work is done by men who have a better knowledge of Chrysler vehicles.
    I would jump at the chance to get the T&C you want while the Lifetime Powertrain warranty is still offered. The Chrysler Service Contracts are Lifetime as well, and that's unbeatable by any other vehicle made on this earth!
    Hope this gives you more to think about.

    farout
  • kcoreykcorey Posts: 130
    Just a thought...I had an '05 Buick Terraza that the side door would periodically open on. After the 3rd time, I brought it to the Buick dealer and they replaced both remotes...no charge. They said they couldn't find anything wrong, but after the replacements were installed, everything was fine. Like I said, just a thought.
  • kcoreykcorey Posts: 130
    You really should look at the Buick Enclave!
  • maryh3maryh3 Posts: 263
    I was also very angry at CR at first, but now I must admit that they'rw quite right with their review. While I could not test braking distance and handling tracks, I must that the handling is not what I was hoping for - even my old Dodge GC was much better. It feels like a heavy truck.

    Actually what you have described is exactly why I think I like the T&C Limited. The stopping distances and steering are the similar for most minivans - they just differ in the sensitivity of the brake pedal and steering mechanism. I don't prefer one type of steering or braking over another. What I did prefer was the difference in the feel of the engine in the Limited. It DOES feel more like an SUV engine than its competitors or the 3.8/3.2 Chrysler engines. But the more I test drove it the more I liked it. I think this is because I have driven some type of minivan since 1995. And even though the Honda and Toyota owners will blow a fuse when I say this -- but after a while all the minivans feel similar to each other. After driving about 275,000 minivan miles, and testing all the 08 models -- I was bored. I missed the SUV craze since I was driving a minivan, so the SUV engine feel was a welcome change for me. For me, the Limited had a fresh, smooth, powerful feel -- and handled quite well. It was a welcome change from the boredom I felt while driving the other minivans.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    Where are you getting these facts concerning the Odyssey five speed transmission? Yes, there were serious issues with the previous generation's five speed but that situation was corrected for this generation.

    I have almost 40,000 trouble free miles on my '06 Odyssey unlike the last Grand Caravan I owed that went through replacement parts two at a time.

    How do you make a statement like all minivans drive the same? As an owner of seven different minivans since 1983 there were none that drives as well as does the Odyssey. My son's 2008 Sienna does not handle as well as the Odyssey.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Yes, there were serious issues with the previous generation's five speed but that situation was corrected for this generation. I thought I read on the Ody thread about the 08 Odys using essentially the Pilot tranny, which is "supposedly" different than the 07 Odys, and this was done because of tranny issues? It didn't make sense that Honda would have different auto trannys for the same platforms i.e...Ody/MDX/Ridgeline/Pilot???

    I have almost 40,000 trouble free miles on my '06 Odyssey unlike the last Grand Caravan I owed that went through replacement parts two at a time. I have countless friends with GCs that have had many trouble free miles too, and I've put 80k trouble free miles on 2 company caravans that I totally abused. A month ago I took a coworker to pick up his new Pacifica as his company GC had 117,000 miles on it....not a single problem. Everyone has their horror tales.

    How do you make a statement like all minivans drive the same? I've said that many times myself......When I was testing driving Odys/Siennas/Dodges back to back, I was hard pressed to notice a difference, other than I thought the Dodge drove quieter than the Honda but not the Toyota, but overall handling...nada, sorry.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    I know a number of people who would not ever again buy a Chrysler product. You are among the lucky ones who got one that turned out to be reliable. I had a Dodge car that was bought back by the company under owner's arbitration and exchanged for a brand new, built to order Grand Caravan, The GC was as bad as the car. I have also had hellacious experience with VW and Nissan vans.

    Whatever you wish to say negative about the Odyssey is your prerogative. Meanwhile I will continue driving the gold standard of minivans. If the Odyssey was junk I'd be here sounding off as loudly as I do about Chrysler.

    You can't polish a turd.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    Speaking of transmission problems: There are 1,562 posts concerning Chrysler minivan transmission problems VS 276 Odyssey transmission problem posts here on Edmunds.

    How did the Odyssey become the #1 selling minivan in 2007 despite Chrysler practically giving them away to rental companies?

    Why does a one year old Odyssey that stickered for about $33,000, sold for about $29,000 have a resale of $25,000 yet a similar Chrysler mini can be had for about $13,000. One of our biggest Dodge dealers here in San Antonio has been flooding the airways with ads touting used "loaded" '07 GCs for $12,500.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Whatever you wish to say negative about the Odyssey is your prerogative. Meanwhile I will continue driving the gold standard of minivans. If the Odyssey was junk I'd be here sounding off as loudly as I do about Chrysler.

    I was just pointing out that Ody or any Honda (as long as you're now bashing any Chrysler product) has had it's share of problems also, not going on and on bashing every Chrysler vehicle, and name calling i.e...turd. Over the past 22 years, Chrysler has sold many times as minivans as anyone else. What I found out looking at Odys was, one needs lots of "gold" to buy one, not that they were that superior to other minivans available.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Speaking of transmission problems: There are 1,562 posts concerning Chrysler minivan transmission problems VS 276 Odyssey transmission problem posts here on Edmunds. This is a good measure of quality, people with 15 year old Caravans posting questions about their tranny, when Honda didn't even make a minivan back then. The fact that there are 276 Ody postings is not something to boast about, especially when Toyota's Sienna doesn't even have a "tranny problem" area in their forum.

    How did the Odyssey become the #1 selling minivan in 2007 despite Chrysler practically giving them away to rental companies? I have only seen one Honda ad proclaiming this, and in small print at end of ad, indicating a very specific time period, not actually the entire year i.e....best selling from May to August 2007 (or something like that). I have not seen the final Full Year sales figures for Dodge yet, maybe you have and can link it? Lets ignore that Chrysler stopped producing the 2007s for plant change over during the summer, or that Total Chrysler Corporation minivan sales (Caravan and T&C) still makes them the number one minivan seller in the country, and that Honda is still dumping 2007s off their lots and heavily discounting the 2008s. (big discounts compared to dealer markups back in 2005)

    Why does a one year old Odyssey that stickered for about $33,000, sold for about $29,000 have a resale of $25,000 yet a similar Chrysler mini can be had for about $13,000. A similar Chrysler minivan never sold for $33,000 to begin with. I bought my 2005 GC SXT for $20,000 (about $9000 less than a similar Ody EX at the time but I also got tow package, power hatch not available on Ody), and from what I see on Craig's list or Autotrader for my area, it's still worth about $13,000. So if I had purchased the Ody back in 2005, financed that additional $9000 difference for 4 years vs. pocketing the difference and potentially earning interest instead of paying it, I'd hope my 2005 Ody EX would be worth about $20,000? I decided I wanted the gold in my own pocket, instead of driving it around.

    It'll be interesting to see, as Honda continues to dump Odys for $4-5k off sticker, what it does for their vaunted resale value? It'll have a trickle down effect no doubt as people go to buy used 05s, 06s when a new 07 is about same price.
  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    It'll be interesting to see, as Honda continues to dump Odys for $4-5k off sticker, what it does for their vaunted resale value?

    Really? And what does that say for Chrysler for offering 0%, a rebate and no payments for six months on its much ballyhooed BRAND NEW minivans?

    A similar Chrysler minivan never sold for $33,000 to begin with.

    So, all these people who bought 2007 Limited models with MSRP over $33,000 were hosed?

    You can say what you want but the facts do not justify your argument. A quick look at the used car lots support my argument.

    A bit off target but I bought a 2003 Olds Silhouette with an MSRP of $33,315. When I traded three years later I was very lucky to get the $10,500 I got and I shopped every brand, including, in a moment of ill mental health, Dodge.

    In October, 2004, I was selected for a marketing research panel and was afforded the opportunity to drive a minivan from DCX, Ford, GM and Honda back-to-back. First I got to explore the van's features - Stow N Go was brand new, then I drove with an evaluator recording my comments to a number of preselected questions. Without a doubt the Honda was superior in every way to the others. Remember, at that time my Olds was two years old and I had no intention of having it replaced. After the experience of that Saturday morning I decided to buy a Honda when the time came as it did one year later.

    I have no first hand experience with the 2008 Chrysler vans except to comment how much they resemble the last generation Kia Sedona in appearance. My comments are based on the the VW van I owned, the Nissan van I owned, the Pontiac van I owned, the Ford van I owed, the Grand Caravan I owned, the Olds I owned and the Honda I now own. My experience tells me that Chrysler built and continues to build vehicles more unreliable than most.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Really? And what does that say for Chrysler for offering 0%, a rebate and no payments for six months on its much ballyhooed BRAND NEW minivans? I've seen the posting on 0% etc.....but haven't actually seen it any where else. But rebates and incentives are typical of domestics, but not Honda. People shopping for any car, knows there's dickering, incentives and negotiations for the selling price/trade in. Forever though, to buy a Honda, with it's "percieved" value it was usually full sticker or "market adjusted pricing" adders of thousands of dollars. That is now history with the fire sale on 2007 and 2008 Odys, one has only too look at the Honda forum to see the deals now available. This is a good thing for any minivan buyer, especially if you have blinders on and will only buy an Ody.

    I'm tracking prices paid for T&C and Ody, as I'm itching for new vehicle later this years. My personal decision is whether to buy a T&C with incentives and a friends employee's discount, or buy an Ody or Sienna with just their incentives? The difference this time won't be $9000 though - Dodge vs. Honda. You must also be interested in possibly a T&C since you're participating in the thread so actively? That or you so hate Chrysler and just want to whine?

    So, all these people who bought 2007 Limited models with MSRP over $33,000 were hosed? LOL, I doubt anyone paid anywhere near MSRP for a Chrysler T&C. In fact you have me really confused now, cause I thought Chrysler was basically giving minivans away per your local papers???

    I have no first hand experience with the 2008 Chrysler vans except to comment how much they resemble the last generation Kia Sedona in appearance. My comments are based on the the VW van I owned, the Nissan van I owned, the Pontiac van I owned, the Ford van I owed, the Grand Caravan I owned, the Olds I owned and the Honda I now own. My experience tells me that Chrysler built and continues to build vehicles more unreliable than most. I don't see any resemblance to anything but to the early 90s Caravans - boxy and slab sided. I hate when people have a bad experience with anything and it forever taints their attitude/outlook. People who'll never buy "such and such" POC vehicle ever again, even look at it first hand. One can find people like that for every brand on Edmunds. I had a terrible Honda Civic in the early 80s that burnt oil like crazy and got terrible gas mileage, I had a 1990 Acura Integra that had all sorts of electrical problems. I had a 1983 Cavalier that I put 180k totally trouble free miles on. I haven't had a GM since. I've seriously considered an Ody in 2005, and contemplating one for end of year. I hope I never get so tainted as some.
  • Dodge Caravan was still the #1 selling mini van for 2007. You can read the whole article here http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080104/BUSINESS01/801040386/10- 14


    In December, though, Chrysler did make a big play to hold on to one of its important leadership positions. The automaker posted a 51.3% gain in Dodge Grand Caravan sales, enough to beat the Honda Odyssey for the No. 1 position in the minivan segment.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Guess Honda should pull those commercials with the "best selling minivan" plastered on them because it's misleading, even though it may be technically correct for a very specific specific time period. And maybe some day Honda will be more open about their incentives and make them public? They just left the dealers know, and god help the consumer who doesn't research their purchase first.
  • colloquorcolloquor Posts: 482
    FWIW . . . our old '94 Grand Caravan ES went 164K miles on the original transmission. When we sold it, it still had the original transmission, and according to the person who bought it, it's still fine - at 180K. Preventive maintenance is the key, as we changed ATF at every 24K miles.
  • Is the Mygig on the 08 T/C DVD driven? I would hate to tie up a DVD drive if it is. Does it come with a backup DVD in case you need to reload for some reason? Does anyone know how much and how often update DVD's are released?
  • The navigation is HDD driven. I didn't receive a backup DVD. I asked the "customer service" rep at the dealer regarding this and he didn't have a clue. I also don't know anything regarding navigation updates. These are on a list of questions for the dealer.

    If anyone else knows how these work, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    Thanks!
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    An email from Chrysler customer service claims the www.chrysler.com/mygig link in the owner's manual will finally work by the end of January and we will be able to download the application software updates.

    In the meantime, it is available elsewhere right now. Version 9.561 for a MyGIG with nav is the latest. You can get it here:

    http://www.nitroforumz.com/showthread.php?t=7658

    That will not update any maps, just the application software. I've read that map updates will eventually be available from the dealer but they will be quite expensive.
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