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Ford Escape Mazda Tribute Maintenance and Repair

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  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    This is an old issue with some 01/02 Trib/Escapes. I own an 01 Escape XLT and it has never stalled on me. The wife owns an 04 Trib ES and she has never stalled either. Your safe, test drive and I know you will fall for the Trib. Sounds like you are also after the 4cyl model, the stalling was only on the V6's in 01/02...
    Come back and let us know what you think.. and buy...
  • kaye3kaye3 Posts: 4
    I was all set to buy a Forester but decided it was a bit too expensive... at 19,600 (last quote). The $3000 rebate for the Tribute (manual) is a substantial incentive but I haven't driven it yet. I loved my test drive in the Forester and hope the Tribute is similar: solid, strong, and high-quality.

    I also learned that it would cost me $1650 or so (per year) to insure the Forester, which was surprising considering it's such a safe vehicle. Haven't yet learned whether the Tribute will be similar.

    To save $$$ on the purchase, gas, and insurance I may end up with a Scion xB...although it felt like my old Toyota Tercel.... not a very impressive test drive with manual transmission - difficult shifting.

    Any opinions about Forester vs. Tribute? Are they about equal in gas mileage? Lots of questions here...
  • Does anybody have this problem with their 2001 Mazda Tribute, 4 cylinder, manual transmission?
    I drive the car around town and it runs fine. I stop and go into the store and come out 10 minutes later and start the car. It will start but dies and will not keep running. If I let the car sit for 3-15 minutes it will start right up and does not act up again for a month or so. The dealership cannot find anything wrong because they cannot reproduce the problem and Mazda said keep bringing it in. It does not stall while I am driving and does not do it when the engine is cold in the morning. If you have had this problem please give me any information on how to get it fixed. I loved my car until this started happening in January.
  • Have you had any luck? It's funny because I've had the same problem as your sister. Prior to the recall I took my car in to get checked and they refused to thoroughly check the car because when they turned the car on, they had no problems. They said "the tech will not look for any problem if the car starts without problems". Now since the recall my car stalls more frequently and today my car actually shut off about 4 times while trying to park it. Now my big problem is that I'm about 10k miles over my warranty and I'm afraid the dealer will not bother with my problem. If anyone has any suggestions as to what I should do, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let me know. I USED to love my car.
  • I have an 02 Escape XLT and have similar problems (among other things...). The dealer told me that this is a problem that there is no fix for as of yet and that engineering is trying to work on a fix. In the mean time they lubed the wheel which should work temporarily.

    I am also having a lot of trouble with the front end of my car. Last month they had to replace the engine mounts and now the tie rod is shot. Since I'm 500 miles over warranty, Ford is giving me the cold shoulder and telling me they won't fix it. I spoke to my independent mechanic and he told me this is an engineering problem with these cars. I called the dealer back and spoke to the service manager who didn't disagree but still told me that there's nothing he could do. Has anyone else had this problem???? My car is only 2 and a half years old and has never been off road! Just driven around the suburbs of NY.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    I own an 01 Escape XLT V6 4wd and this vehicle has been taken off road. I use my Escape to visit the Cascade range of mountians for skiing and fishing. Granted, I use only access roads but it still puts the little Escape through its paces. I find it hard to believe the front end tie rod being an engineering issue. I have almost 50,000 on my Escape and mine are fine. I am sorry for you problems. The only advice I can give you is to try to reach the district manager for Ford in your region. Personally speak with the person. Keep it politically correct and professional. Ask that Ford at least split the cost with you or you pay for parts or labor... Negotiate.. Good luck..
  • bigebige Posts: 2
    I had the same problem on two different times with my 01 Escape. Both times it threw a "P3" OBD2 code. The problem is you have a hairline crack on the top of one of your coil packs. This car has 6 coils. The bottom 3 (4-5-6) are very easy to replace. Moisture gets into the coil and shorts it. It dose not happen all the time,even in driving rain. But when it dose happen, it goes away after the engine gets nice and hot. Find someone with a scan tool and it will tell you exactly the number coil that is shorted (i.e-P304). If you have an AutoZone store near you, they will do it for free. They also carry the coil for about $50.All you need is a 8mm socket. If its one of the back coils (1-2-3), you have to remove the upper intake plenum to get to the coils (1-2-3). This is more involved than the bottom. The first time this happened to me , I bought the coil from Ford and paid $95. The second time I got it after market for half the price and found the same decal on it as the one that came from Ford. So save your money and go aftermarket. Hope this helps.
  • bigebige Posts: 2
    Replace your idle air speed control motor (IAC). They get gummy over time and cause the symptoms you are describing with no trouble codes. It is easy to do it yourself. It is located on the side of your throttle. It is a silver colored cylinder with a plug at the bottom with two small bolts mounting it to your intake. After market might not have it so you need to get it from your Mazda dealer.
  • I bought my Tribute brand new (Feb 02). On cold days, it will not start. It's not the battery because everything else works fine. It seems to be the starter, although no problems have been found. Sometimes, I just have to wait a half hour or so, and it starts right up. I have taken it to the dealership where they kept it for 2 days and of course it started right up and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Now it is out of warranty and they will not pay for a loaner, cannot guarantee Mazda will stand by my previous warranty, since I had the vehicle in prior to my warranty expiring. I'm really frustrated and would like to hear from others who have had this probelm.
    Thank you.
  • Thanks for your response. It kind of confirms my belief that I got stuck with a lemon. (maybe they dropped it off the carrier???) Anyway, I've run up against a brick wall in dealing with Ford. They are ABSOLUTELY horrible to deal with and won't stand by their product! I am in the process of writing complaints to the BBB and the NYS attorney General's office but I don't expect much to happen. I finally took my car to MY mechanic (who is great). He fixed the tie rods on both sides and also re-aligned the car. In other words, he did it properly. The dealer actually only wanted to replace the tie rod on the right side (even though the tie rod on the left side was the one making the noise, he said the noise was "transferring" to the left side which I believe was a bunch of hooey) and never said anything to me about aligning the car until I mentioned it to them. Ford actually has come out with a new design of their tie rods for this car which leads me to believe as my mechanic has confirmed, that the prior design was poorly engineered and was not meant to last. I am going to put the car up for sale and buy a japanese car... Never had anywhere near the number of problems with one of those cars before. I would NEVER buy another Ford or Ford subsidiary car again!!!
  • I had the same problem several months ago. Bring it back to the Dealership. It may just be a computer "bug" now that you have replaced the gas cap.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Sorry once again for your grief. But.. All Japanese cars are not perfect. CRV is having engine fire issues, along with having its share of recalls, Toyota same..Don't buy Mitsubishi they are in serious financial straights..
    Believe it or not.. go to MSN and look under their reliability data.. the 01/02 Escape rates pretty high. I too think you just got a lemon. It really bums me out when a car company will not at least try to keep a customer or what could be a future customer. Good luck...
  • Hi all:

    I recently bought a used '01 Tribute DX 4 cylinder with a 5 speed manual. Since we got our first batch of snow today, I was wondering if anybody has found a way to have the the 4WD indicator light come on whenever the 4WD has been activated due to the front wheels slipping? Right now, the only time the 4WD indicator comes on is when you hit the 4WD LOCK button on the dashboard. For curiosity, I'd like to know when the 4WD is active and when it is not.

    freddy
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    You would probably have to mess with the computer code to do something like that or be good at soldering wires from transmissions to dashboards.

    In older Escapes the 4WD light comes on when the switch is turned to the "ON" position because the axles are, for all intents and purposes, locked together. As a result of this "locking" you can experience binding/crabbing of the driveline on dry pavement. I'm sure Ford put that idiot light there to make extra sure you know it's on and not to drive on dry roadway.

    The only time you'll see that light when the switch is in the "Auto" position is if there is a problem with the 4WD system. So you see, it's not a good thing to see that light in "Auto" mode anyway. :)
  • Her car finally would not start at all. The dealership came and picked it up and found that her throttled was sticking. They replaced it and only charged her for half the part$45.00 and no labor. Hope you can have the same luck
  • Thanks for the note. Looking at various sites and going to trade the car in while it still has low milege and looks good. Thinking of the Santa Fe. At least it has a good reliability record and a 10 year warranty! While I understand every once in awhile one can get a bad car, the fact that Ford has been so awful in backing up their product tells me No more Fords in my future!
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    One thing you have to understand is that dealers and their service departments are not owned or operated by the manufacturer. Unless you called Ford directly and they gave you the cold shoulder your complaint is with the dealer and not Ford.

    The best thing to do in that situation is to call Ford and complain and/or try another dealer.
  • 2001 Tribute ... anyone out there have trouble opening the door from the outside?? Problem started after I used remote lock. I unlocked and then couldn't open the passenger door. Only way to open is from the inside. Any service bulletins out there that I missed??
  • I've been dealing with Ford directly to no avail. Trust me, corporate doesn't want to deal with this, nor does the dealership.
  • suvshopper4suvshopper4 Posts: 1,110
    scape2:

     

    "CRV is having engine fire issues, along with having its share of recalls, Toyota same.."

     

    What do you mean, "Toyota same?"
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