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Ford Escape

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  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Vehicles with comparable torque to the Escape are the Acura RDX, Lexus RX 350 and BMW X3, at a cost of thousands more.

    A Lexus RX350 is a mid-sized luxury SUV, the Escape is not. I can see the comparison to the RDX, but not the X3. Just because torque is comparable, it does not mean the vehicles are.

    Regardless of your opinion, the Escape DOES compare to the CR-V and CX-5, amongst others in the class (Equinox, Terrain, Rogue, RAV4). While the 2.0L EcoBoost offers something the others do not, it comes at a substantially higher price tag and less fuel economy, something the majority of buyers are concerned about. I guess you do not fall in that category, which is OK and it seems that the 2.0L is right up your alley.

    The 1.6L EcoBoost, which is Ford's volume offering, is also much more money then others in the class, which was my main argument. You are over $31,000 with no leather, no navigation. You can get lots of features for under $30K with others in this class which is more "value". That was my point.

    By "value" minded, I think of "look at all you get for what you pay" vs the Escape that is "look at what you get but you need to pay a premium for it". Again, there is nothing wrong with that approach. I just am not sure the majority of buyers in this segment feel the same. But, who knows? Ford is taking a marketing approach that is vastly different from how the Escape has always been.
  • I have a 2005 Ford Escape. I went to start it yesterday and it acted like the battery was almost dead, but not quite. When it was started, the gauge needles all jumped really fast and at first my gas gauge said I had no gas, even after I had just filled up. I am supposed to be leaving back for Iowa today/tomorrow, but need to know what this could be and I don't have any money to have it looked at, just the money I need to get home. Can any of you guys help? Thanks so much.
  • bretcampbretcamp Posts: 6
    If this answer has already been posted, sorry but I couldn't find it. Does anyone know the hatch/cargo area opening height for the 2013 model, and how it compares to the previous models? One of the reasons we're on our 4th Escape is because of its boxiness, and its ability to handle tall items that even much larger SUVs have trouble with.

    On pricing, prices have definitely changed over the past 6 months. When I priced the 2013 model on the beta site, a fully loaded car, with nav etc., was around $38k - well above a fully loaded 2012 (around $34k+), thought admittedly with more standard equipment. The now-announced prices are lower than the "test" prices, but still in the same range as a fully-loaded Terrain. The new Escape is of course also larger, so although it may still be compact, it seems Ford has moved to the upper edge of this segment.
  • tbk81tbk81 Posts: 9
    Don't know who you people are talking to about price. I picked up a fully loaded sel for 500 under invoice and got 1 k in incentives. 2.0 ecoboost. You cannot touch that in an underpowered cx-5.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,991
    I think they are talking about MSRP. Which is about the only way to really compare them at this point since the new Escape isn't even on dealer lots yet. Sounds like you got some kind of insider deal which I find to be a little too good to be true. A hot new vehicle usually doesn't get discounted like that until further into the model year and Ford certainly doesn't need to be giving them away at this point.

    Ford selling brand new Escapes for below invoice already would be making the auto news and I haven't seen anything.
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    That's not true, here's how my deal broke down on the VOC. Remove the fuel assessment and advertising fee from the invoice side and I got my Escape for $2176 under MSRP.

    Retail Column:
    $30370.00 Titanium FWD
    $995.00 Prkg. Tech Pkg
    $825.00 Dest & Deliv
    $32190.00 Total

    Dealer Invoice Column:
    $28321.00 Titanium FWD
    $868.00 Prkg. Tech Pkg
    $60.12 Fuel Charge
    $470.00 Adv Assessment
    $825.00 Dest & Deliv
    $30544.12 Total
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Two people getting supreme discounts on the barely available Escape? Proves my point that the car is not competitive in terms of factory pricing. Most people are still paying MSRP for a CX-5 4 months after the release. I have seen great discounts on CR-V's, but then again, that car has been on sale for 8 months and inventory is plentiful.

    In any event, the Escape is really a nice CUV. They did a great job with almost everything, except price, IMO.

    After driving one, I can see why people will buy one. I happened to purchase a CX-5 instead (E-Plan plus owner loyalty rebate).

    Any way you slice it, now is a great time to be in the market for a compact CUV. The offerings have never been better.
  • jeffmh301jeffmh301 Posts: 1
    I order Giner Ale Titanium 4WD with Full leather seats,power roof,Myford hd w/nav, Mats-all weather, CARGO PRTCR-ACC, MSRP $36,195 Invoice on this was $33,615 (NADAGUIDES)
    They charge me $531 ADV ASSESSMENT AND $70.74 FUEL CHARGE to bring DELIVER INVOICE TO $34,216.74
    MSRP $36,195 - $1,695 ( BEST FORD NASHUA NH DISCOUNT) = $34,500 - $500 FORD REBATE $34,000
    Then charge me $499 for Documentary Preparation fee $34,499
    Then I got from Ford website, Receive a vehicle brochure by mail

    Your personalized brochure includes more information about your vehicle of choice plus current offers and incentives available to you.
    a $750 PRIVATE CASH coupon. SAYS " You can use this $750 private cash offer in addition to any current publi offers" Take delivery from dealer stock by 7-07-2012.

    So that bring my out the door total too $33,749 or $134 over invoice. Not too bad, just the $499 Doc. fee was too much :P
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,407
    edited June 2012
    Please post this over in the Ford Escape Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion too.

    And congrats on the new Escape!

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  • tbk81tbk81 Posts: 9
    Nothing "insider" about my deal. If you are interested I can show you the numbers from Cavalier Ford in Chesapeake VA. I should have the car around the 25th. The cars are in every Ford lot around here right now and I got similar offer from another dealer. :)
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    edited June 2012
    I took a test drive this morning. It was only about 5 miles, mostly surface streets and 2 miles or so on the freeway. I was pleasantly impressed with everything about the car. The ride was a little stiff, but handling was quick and responsive, pick up on the entrance ramp was excellent and cruising at 60 the passing power was equally excellent. I didn't expect the nice low engine growl, but liked it, and surprisingly didn't notice any turbo whine when I punched the gas. The seats are much wider and roomier for my derriere and the front seat area has a similar layout as my Focus, but with much more room. The rear seat folding was effortless and there is a lot of room behind the rear seats. I think I'll be able to fit my clubs and cart in the back without even folding the seats. The Escape I drove had the Panoramic Vista roof and I kind of wish I had ordered mine with one. Any second guessing I had regarding trading my 2012 Focus has now vanished.
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    Tim, what did you test drive, the 1.6l or 2.0l and fwd or awd? Thanks.
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    2.0L Titanium, 4WD.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,991
    Why did you trade the 2012 Focus if I might ask? Not enough cargo room? Now that you've ordered and driven the 2.0, how would you think you would like the 1.6?
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    I traded my Focus because yes, I need more cargo space, I want more power, more interior room and to sit higher on the road. I like my Focus, it gets great mpg's, runs well and has good pep for a small car, but it gets a little cramped when logging 14 hour driving days. I chose to get the 2.0L because I road trip a lot and travel to AZ for a month in the winter. The Focus seemed to labor in the mountains and I was a little concerned the 1.6L might be a little under powered for travel to higher elevations from the Valley. I think for city/highway use the 1.6L will be fine.
  • The new 2013 Escape 1.6 turbo is on my list of vehicles to see and drive. Looks like it fits my requirements, but worried about the turbo. Never owned one so don't know how reliable they are. I just finished up over on the Eco boost discussions ( trucks and looks like some problems here with Eco Boost ), but still have not gathered enough information about the durability of this technology, you know fuel efficiency in the real world - and no mechanical problems. I don't ever want to visit a Ford dealership except for oil changes and the like.

    IS THE TURBO SAFE TO BUY AND WILL IT GIVE REAL FUEL EFFICIENCY IN THE REAL WORLD????
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  • wolandcawolandca Posts: 1
    I did a test drive of base model this Sat. Not bad at all. A bit noisy, but not so bad as in old 2012 model and suspension little stiff but not so stiff as in Toyota Matrix ;). I do not see any reason for paying extra for 1.6L Eco with almost same MPG and Ph. Am i wrong?
  • This vehicle has had many issues the worst being that it "dies" without any warning whatsoever. It usually will restart. This has happened 4 times since mid winter 2011. The dealership has installed a recording device to try and obtain data on what is going on. They cannnot seem to replicate the issue but when I drive it, it is hesitating ALOT but it will usually recover and keep going.

    There have been issues with a rear engine seal, starter and transmission and dealership has done whatever is necessary to fix those. I still feel the transmission is not optimal though.

    Any ideas?
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    If it was me buying it? I would have no problem with the base engine.

    My local Ford dealer has a base "S" model with a SOLD sign hanging in it. It had all the options I would need and a sticker of $23,800.

    The 2.5L Duratec I-4 engine is a proven performer and in the FWD model, would provide good performance and economy.
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    I took a peak at an SE model today & I could see that there was no vent on the center stack for the rear seat passengers. I thought they all came with it now? Is there a certain option needed to get the rear seat vents? Is it only available on Titanium & SEL models? A bit confused, would like to get one but not if it doesn't have this vent option, have pets that need the airflow going into the back area.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,663
    check for the vents under the front seats.
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    So is the SEL, not the SE, the model you need to buy to get the vents, I thought all models came with it now?
  • tinycadontinycadon Posts: 287
    Think I figured it out? By looking at the photos on dealers websites, it seems that the Escapes with the MyFordTouch option has the rear vents while the Escapes without MFT do not have the vents. Makes sense, Dual Zone Automatic Climate Control comes with the MFT.
  • so you are so up on this vehicle

    name where you are seeing all this so called bad- so many issues

    not talking about goofy web sites- facebook nuts or twitter nuts
    state facts
    tell us where we can find all the faults of this vehicle- documented

    I sure haven't been able to find anything to back up your biased opinion
  • tpangtpang Posts: 1
    Hi, I had test drive the other day when it was raining (July), the model is SEL 2.0T FWD. However, whenever I accelerate the car, i can feel the wheels were spinning at a faster speed but the car isn't moving (skid). I can actually feel it every time i start moving at each traffic light. The wheels are like running in the mud or sand. Has anyone have this issue with this model?
  • bretcampbretcamp Posts: 6
    So, anyone able to determine the hatch opening height yet? Thanks.
  • jdixsonjdixson Posts: 10
    I dropped a vertical from the lateral midpoint of the opening and it was 31 5/8".

    Same measurement on my 2008 Mariner Hybrid was 33 1/4".
  • acinonyxacinonyx Posts: 1
    My local dealer says all shipments currently held up due to a recall. May be a bit before they get any more.

    http://www.torquenews.com/1081/ford-recalling-2013-escape-suvs-brake-concerns
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