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BMW X3 hesitation on acceleration

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,855
    A bit OT, but what do you know about Enthusiast Auto over on Reading Road?

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,935
    Tell it to Edmunds. :P :D

    Year four is the killer.

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  • pp2009pppp2009pp Posts: 228
    Do you add the two numbers together? Since the X3 has a 4 year maintenance/warranty the $5,548 number is just for year number five or is this 'as if' you paid for all the maintenance and warranty.

    What is up with the Q5. I hear you can prepay for maintenance and save a bit.

    Do you know where the raw data comes from?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,935
    Edmunds assumes 15,000 miles a year so you'd hit the 50,000 free maintenance limit sometime in year four.

    "There are eight components of TCO®: depreciation, interest on financing, taxes and fees, insurance premiums, fuel, maintenance, repairs and any federal tax credit that may be available. The costs are researched and placed into a series of proprietary algorithms developed by Edmunds' statisticians." True Cost to Own (TCO)

    I don't know where the data comes for what breaks when. Maybe Identifix since we use their data for our reliability ratings on the vehicle pages? Labor rates and parts costs are pretty easy to find from the books.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,103
    Yeah... tires... and gasoline and insurance, too... ;)

    My wife has been driving BMWs for six years now.. Except for those three items, we've never spent a penny.... :)

    Don't know about the battery, but I'm guessing it is covered by the warranty (or a different warranty).

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,103
    Most of their stuff is modified.... Really cool, if you go for that... pricey, though..

    It's two brothers... I think their father bankrolls the operation. I talked to him a few months ago, while the kids were off at Mid-Ohio. He is from Columbus, I think.

    I think they look for nice examples for sale.. buy them, modify them (they have a shop), then put them on the lot for top-dollar... By the time they get done with them, they are mostly playthings for rich guys... You aren't likely to find a stock E30 325iS..

    You can run across some pretty cool things, though... last time I was up there, they had a high-mileage '06 E90 325Xi with a 6-speed stick.. How many AWD sedans do you think they sold with a stick, that year?! One of the guys used to drive an E34 wagon, custom Laguna Seca paint, and some screamer of an engine.... cool stuff..

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,855
    Thanks. I think I'm going to at least drop by and look. They have a few tempting cars on their website...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,103
    It's easy to get to... just a couple of blocks off of I-275...

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,855
    I know, we were going out to eat with some friends and drove right past it- but didn't have time to stop... :(

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,103
    Too bad it isn't summer time.. Old fashioned root beer stand right down the street... great chili dogs, and they make their own root beer..

    Seasonally open, though... :(

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  • pp2009pppp2009pp Posts: 228
    My wife has been driving BMWs for six years now.. Except for those three items, we've never spent a penny....

    Does that mean she has driven the same BMW for 6 years bought as new and out of warranty for 2 years with only tires and oil changes required for the 2 out of warranty years?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,103
    Never been out of warranty or maintenance plan...

    My point was (is)... the maintenance plan is comprehensive, and as advertised..

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  • pp2009pppp2009pp Posts: 228
    I like the 4 year maintenance. Volvo did have a 6 year maintenance + warranty plan which was really something...and potentially required for a Volvo.
  • what is worse is the price. I paid 50 thousand for my X3. I have a 2008 BMW X3si. The sound system is horrible.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Are you sure, certain sure that the acceleration problem isn't really just under "RE-ACCELERATION" conditions...?

    All newer vehicles, beginning with the introduction of the first RX300, make use of a more FE conscious ATF line pressure control system. The old system used a pressure sustaining accumulator so that ATF line pressure was constantly, INSTANTLY, available if/when a shift sequence was "commanded.

    The new "real-time" ATF line pressure control system reduces the line pressure to an absolute minimum when conditions allow. Relax the throttle during slight acceleration and the transmission will upshift accordingly. Now, QUICKLY, get back onto the gas and you will encounter a 1-2 second downshift delay/hesitation, enforced via DBW, until the real time line pressure control system has time to react and raise the pressure.
  • I've had several BMW's and I wouldn't wory about I those transmissions ar computer controlled and have a learn feature. In other words, they all have a delay out of the box so to speak and will adapt to you.as a reference though, BMW's transmissions do not have the quick take-off like a [non-permissible content removed] car. Part of that is also fuel economy related. But I'm pretty used to it. I get a little whiplash from the [non-permissible content removed] cars at my age..BTW, I bought my wife an X3 and she loves it. She's a real leadfoot too! Like me : )
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