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Lexus RX 300

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  • mvs1mvs1 Posts: 462
    You mean Ford quality.

    Also remember when your one of the last ones to the dance (SUV) you should be better than your competition, in several, if not all areas.
  • Hey, no criticism intended for taking on a giant corporation and losing in a court case - I salute you for making the attempt.

    I just wonder what their position was in denying your faulty engineering claim, if that was the suit basis.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    We got the judge's attention in a very big way when we showed, and the Lexus expert verified, that the A/C compressor circuit was being opened automatically, and the indicator extinguished, without any obvious warning to the operator.

    No one disagreed that the fogging of the windshield was the direct result of the compressor being cycled off.

    But then the Lexus EXPERT got up and testified "truthfully" (he believed everything the Lexus lawyers had prepped him to say, and he wasn't smart enough to figure things out for himself) that I had exacerbated the fogging episode by turning up the heat and blower rather than just simply re-activating the A/C.

    The Lexus expert argued that turning the A/C back on would have worked because the cold mountain airflow would have been warmed enough as it flowed through the cowling and plenum that the A/C could have dehumidified it by cooling it back down to its original temperature.

    Yeah, right, SURE!

    Don't take a technical case before a judge without a CERTIFIED technical expert by your side.
  • I LIVE IN THE WASHINGTON DC/MD AREA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A 2002 RX300 WITHOUT THE NAVIGATION SYATEM. I GOT A QUOTE FROM A DEALER FOR 37,000. IS THIS A GOOD PRICE? OR WHAT IS A GOOD PRICE?
  • First time Lexus owner. Bought my new car on 11-3-01. I traveled to Louisville, KY in order to save $4200 (including trade and cost of new vehicle). I live in Nashville. In this area they won't come off sticker. To me $37000 does not sound like that great of a deal on a 2002 RX without navigation. Guess it depends on whether its a AWD or 2WD. I'm not sure about the Washington DC area. Anyway, I'm a first time poster and just wanted to see if I'm doing this right. I love my new car!
  • THAKS KAREN
    YOU DID IT PERFECTLY. DID YOU BUY THE RX300 WITH THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM AND AWD. IF YOU DONT MIND TELLING ME WHAT'S A GOOD PRICE FOR THAT.
    THANKS
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    I found if I turn the ignition key to ON, leave light switch at eith AUTO or ON, and then take the key out and close the door, headlight will turn off in about one minute. Then I tried without key in ignition, just leave the switch at ON, no it does not turn light off (in 2 minutes, could not wait any longer).
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    You did great, Karen! Of course we'll expect to see a lot more of you here!

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  • lakeanna, my mom just bought a 2002 RX300 last weekend, 2WD,premium pkg plus (sunroof, leather,6disk CD,roof rack,...) gold pkg, chrome wheels, no nav. She paid 36.5k + tax + license, here in PHX.
  • clee4clee4 Posts: 103
    As you have demonstrated, this is a free country, people are able to express their opinions. I hope you will be happy with your new ML, but you better check where it was made.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    First, I own a 2001 911 AWD, and I would attest that its overall quality is in the range of any Lexus.

    But, I would never say the same for other cars of German design and build. BMW and MB have both been struggling mightily for over ten years to catch up with Lexus and I'm sure they still have a ways to go. I think if you ask them they would say the same.

    Now. I just a wee bit tired of the ML being disparaged simply because it is american built. I would agree, absolutely, that the early versions left a lot, a whole lot, to be desired.

    But like BMW and MB over the past ten years, the overall quality improvements of the ML up until now have been outstanding.
  • FYI - Consumer Reports lists both the BMW X5 and Mercedes ML SUV's under the WORST for reliability. Although the BMW and Mercedes handle great and ride extremely well, I would not spend that amount of money on an automobile unless it is somewhat reliable.
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    Yes I'll never want a car with "better performance and handling" but less reliable.
  • clee4, You have to excuse Ruxpin. He has a identity crisis. He ranted for a bit in the Lexus ES300 forum also about Lexus vs. mercedes-Benz.
  • New owner here, just purchased an '02 RX300. Vehicle has 300 miles after a week and I am very satisfied.

    The one question I have.. is it common to experience a slight idle vibration while in gear or park? My car normally idles at about 500 RPMS and I can even feel the vibration in the steering wheel. Comments?
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    Mine idle at 700 rpm, virtually no vibration no matter which gear it is in. 500 rpm seems a little too low for most cars.
  • That would explain it. Thats an awfully low idle speed..

    Bill
  • Does anyone know of an "on line" source for touch up paint for the RX300? I bought some from the dealer but it has dried up and I am not close to a dealer.
  • Has anyone bought the rx300AWD recently?. What's a good price. or what did you pay for yours. Can you recommend a dealership. I live in Maryland, but I can buy in wASHINGTON D.C. Virginia OR EVEN PA.
    THANKS
  • Try paintscratch.com for your touch-up paint. Fair price and super fast delivery. Good color match as well. Remember to order clear coat as well.

    John
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    There is no "fair price" for an RX300 AWD. Like me, you live in the northern reaches of the country. The RX300 is not AWD unless ALL FOUR WHEELS have traction with the roadbed. In addition to that it is predominantly a FWD vehicle which can be extremely hazardous in wintertime roadbed conditions.

    If you can afford the extra money have a serious look at the BMW X5, or in the alternative an ML320.

    For AWD the MDX will even be a better value than the RX, but it doesn't come with HID, VSC, or Trac.

    I own a 2001 RX300 AWD and a Chrysler T&C AWD and I can tell you that for the money the Chrysler has a much better AWD setup than the RX.

    If you are "settled" on the RX then save some money by buying the FWD version, you will not notice enough difference to justify the additional cost.
  • Since Willard (wwest) is so displeased with his, why don't you buy that one (instead of the BMW with zero room in the back for storage or the ML built in America with reliability problems - or, heaven forbid, a Chrylser minivan!)?

    That way, you'd get a great deal because, after all, the RX' AWD system is a fraud according to Willard, and he could go get that dream SUV from BMW or Mercedes...

    Then, he could join those BMW or Mercedes Town Hall boards and disengage from this one & voila = Heaven!
  • avery1avery1 Posts: 372
    I have read a number of the detailed posts on the workings of the Lexus AWD system and I still can't say that I understand it. What I can tell you is that I have a '99 AWD and it gets me in and out of my mountain house (about 1 mile of unpaved, unplowed road) in the winter where previous FWD vehicles couldn't. True, these were not RX 300 FWD vehicles but I suspect most FWD vehicles will react similarly. We only get 8 or 9 inches of snow but some parts of the hill are quite icy and the RX has never even hesitated. Maybe it's the placebo effect. I think it will make it so it does.
  • Lily. I can't tell you what to do because I don't know the market there. But if it was me I'd try $36,000 but settle for 36,500. It really depends how well you like the car and the market there locally as to what you should offer and what you should settle for. The dealer added a pin stripe to mine. To me the car is worth every penny I spent.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Come to think of it I would be willing to sell you mine! It has only about 10K miles, bottom has been painted so it is monotone burnished gold, upgraded to 17X8 wheels, michelin XCs, Harrier grille.

    It has Nav, HID, VSC, and Trac.

    But in all honesty I wouldn't be able to charge you for the Nav as it is virtually useless, especially for an SUV. I had a MY2000 RX300 AWD and I definitely prefer the non-nav liquid crystal display in it over the nav display.

    I would also ask you to sign a waiver of liability with regards the potential for the windshield to suddenly fog over and the lack of "true" AWD. Lexus may be more than willing to mislead, or more correctly, allow you to mislead yourself, but I simply can't stoop that low.

    Oh, the climate control system can become a bit discomforting as it automatically switches to "cooling" mode, blows cool dry air directly to your face and upper body, in the dead of winter when your upper body is being subjected to severe radiant cooling from the cold outside surround.
  • gsenthilgsenthil Posts: 154
    Drove the loaner RX AWD from the dealer..definitely worth the wet road handling here in Seattle. The difference was noticable. When I accelerate from 0, the traction control would limit my FWD RX but not on the AWD. Also, I drove it in the forest (light off roading- Mt Baker National Forest) and it handled well in snow. All was well till I made a mistake and got stuck between 2 boulders. And thats when I realized it was a AWD beacuase the rear wheels spinned even though one of the front (left) wheel was suspended in the air. Had to get a ride back in a USFS personnel Chevy Truck, and came back with the tow company's big ol 4X4 truck. All I can say is this- the RX AWD handles much better in snow than even the big pickup trucks the owners would have you believe are better than RX, and the best part is that I couldnt feel any bumps at all- I realized how bad the roads were only when I travelled in another vehicle.

    To sum up, if you get snow in your area, or rainfall, go in for an AWD. I dont have a garage and equipment to test how good the viscous coupling in a RX is, but it sure works.

    Senthil
  • avery1avery1 Posts: 372
    I have read a number of the detailed posts on the workings of the Lexus AWD system and I still can't say that I understand it. What I can tell you is that I have a '99 AWD and it gets me in and out of my mountain house (about 1 mile of unpaved, unplowed road) in the winter where previous FWD vehicles couldn't. True, these were not RX 300 FWD vehicles but I suspect most FWD vehicles will react similarly. We only get 8 or 9 inches of snow but some parts of the hill are quite icy and the RX has never even hesitated. Maybe it's the placebo effect. I think it will make it so it does.
  • gsenthilgsenthil Posts: 154
    Hi,

    1) What is the slot front most between the front seats? It opens up when I push it and has some green light inside it- but I dont know what its meant for.

    2)OT: My soft lambskin jacket got soaked in rain and is really hard now. How can I get it back to normal. That also got me thinking...sometimes my raincoat is wet when I sit in my RX..will that spoil the leather seats? What precautions do I need to take?

    Thanks

    Senthil
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    My 2000 RX is not with me now, but I have no idea what you mean.
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