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Mazda 3 Transmission Problems

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,608
    Sounds like another 2-3 post wonder...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    edited September 2010
    mazda ... too many probems with their transmissions
    Curious. In the April 2010 Consumer Reports Auto issue the 2007 Mazda 3 transmission is top rated (that is, it "had relatively few problems compared with other models"). In fact, the transmission seems to be consistently rated highly from 2006 to 2009. The automatic transmission on my 2002 Mazda Protege5 (precursor to the Mazda3) continues to work flawlessly after 80K miles.
  • You cannot compare your 2002 Mazda Protege5 transmission with another year and model. It's apples and oranges.

    When this many of the same year and model are having the EXACT same problems then Mazda should be taking notice. Changing your entire transmission (no repair) before changing your breaks is a ridiculous proposition.

    As for Consumer Reports. That piece of data is given without context. Which type of Mazda3 transmissions were they talking about? The Mazda3 Speed transmission is still highly rated. We are specifically talking about the automatic transmission in the standard model.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    "When this many of the same year and model are having the EXACT same problems..."

    How many is "this many", do we have accurate statistics on the failure rate? Do we also have an accurate figure on failure rate amongst all vehicles for comparison?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    As for Consumer Reports. That piece of data is given without context. Which type of Mazda3 transmissions were they talking about? The Mazda3 Speed transmission is still highly rated. We are specifically talking about the automatic transmission in the standard model.
    You raise a good point, so I checked the reference in Consumer Reports. CR is referring to the "Mazda3 sedan" so this would exclude the Mazda3 Speed (which as you know is not a sedan). The listing has two rows referring to troublespots with transmissions: "Trans. major" and "Trans. minor". In both cases, the Mazda3 receives their best rating. The car is rated "better than avg." overall. As you know, CR has one of the largest databases of consumer responses (latest survey covers 1.4 million vehicles). CR is an important tool for determining the reliability and "how a model is holding up and its strengths and weakenesses".

    You cannot compare your 2002 Mazda Protege5 transmission with another year and model. It's apples and oranges
    My point was that the Protege5, the predecessor for the Mazda3, had a reputation for solid transmissions. So, it seems curious to me for Mazda to start making inferior transmissions for the Mazda3.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,608
    How many is "this many", do we have accurate statistics on the failure rate? Do we also have an accurate figure on failure rate amongst all vehicles for comparison?

    I read it on the internet- so it HAS to be true!!!
    ;)

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Of course no manufacturer would purposely start making inferior transmissions. However, they must make adjustments for each and every year and model. Parts may be coming from a different place. The transmission may be built at a different site. There are about a million variables why a failure can occur in a particular year and model that doesn't occur anywhere else. Therefore, engineering mistakes are possible.

    Want an example? Look what happened to Toyota's stellar reputation.

    Not only have I found many of the exact complaints locally and on the internet, I have experienced this myself. Therefore, yes, I do find truth in it.
  • One other note that might help with outside understanding: my car is high mileage for the year. I put on many more miles than the average driver and I expect in the next year or two as more drivers approach 60,000 miles there will be higher incidences. Enough to perhaps gain some momentum.

    I would probably not feel as keen if the symptoms didn't appear to be identical (starts acting up at 30K; computer reports no problems; discolored transmission flud; "diagnosed" after warranty period).
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    my car is high mileage for the year
    What is your mileage and model year of your Mazda3?
  • fleety62fleety62 Posts: 4
    edited September 2010
    In June I bought the 2010 Mazda 3 Sedan off the showroom floor. This morning at 5900 miles it stopped accelerating on a major Interstate Highway. No warnings no previous slipping and shifting has been perfect. I called Roadside assistance (Tow Truck Driver Doesn't Accept) Had to use AAA. Got it to the dealership, after 1 hour I am told the transmission is blown. I am wondering if this is a recently reported issue with the Transmission in the new model?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    I am told the transmission is blown
    Manual or automatic?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I called Roadside assistance (Tow Truck Driver Doesn't Accept) Had to use AAA.

    Mazda roadside is a dispatch service that pays the tow truck directly, just like AAA. I'm sure Mazda has a list of area shops that accept their money.

    I have never heard of a tow truck driver actually driving out and saying "I don't accept Mazda Roadside Assistance" because you call Mazda and then a truck comes. You don't call a tow truck and hand him your Mazda Roadside card.

    I am now doubting your claim since your statement about Mazda's roadside is completely inacurate. It goes against your credibility, sorry.
  • becbbecb Posts: 2
    Can anyone please help? Approx 1 week ago I was driving my 2004 Manuel Mazda 3 with full tank of petrol and it kept jerking backwards and forewards like it was about to run out. I took it to my dealership and they said there was a blockage with my fuel pump and i needed a new fuel pump. I also had the car serviced at the same time costing me $1100. I picked my car up rom the dealership this morning and initially it drove fine. But after 15 minutes, the exact same problem happened and my car had no energy and struggled to make 30 kms per hour. I had to be towed back to the dealership. They don't seam to know what the problem is and I am spending all my money fixing things that may not need to be fixed. Has anyone had this problem and could you pleae shed some light on the situation???
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    2004 Manuel Mazda 3 ... kept jerking backwards and forewards like it was about to run out
    I wonder if it could be the EGR valve which is a well known problem with Mazda Proteges of 2002 / 2003? The Mazda Protege is the predecessor to the Mazda3.
  • I own a 2008 Mazda 3 sedan (automatic trans.). Shortly after my 20,000 mile service at the dealer I started having this weird problem where I can't shift into "park" properly. There is nothing "wrong" with the shifter exactly, because I can actually switch it into park, but the "P" light does not come on, so I'm not exactly sure if the car is actually in park, though I can not start the car when this happens unless I shift into neutral. This does not happen all the time, but it seems to be happening more often than not. Also, if the car drifts a tiny bit frontwards or backwards after I shift into park, there's a clicking sound and the "P" light does come on. Has anyone had this issue and does this mean that the transmission is possibly damaged or getting bad? I am going to take it to the dealer, but just wondering if anyone has any insight?
  • gogiboygogiboy Posts: 732
    "...though I can not start the car when this happens unless I shift into neutral."

    Steven--

    It could be something as simple as a faulty neutral safety switch, which would be considerably less trouble and expense--and more likely--than a bad transmission at 20K miles. Still, anything is possible...

    Gogiboy
  • Bought a 2009 Mazda 3 in August 2009 with 9400 miles on it and sold new to me. At 23,000 miles I noticed vibration when I am coming to a red light slowing down and then the light changes to green. When the transmission is in second gear and I accelerate the gas it gives off a vibration and noise. Took car in to dealership and at they put the car on the computer and of course nothing picks up. Took car back again and this time they reprogram the RPM. Took car back again and went on test drive with the tech and he heard the issue. He then test drove a Mazda 3 hatchback on the lot and I asked prior to driving did it have the same transmission as my car as well as motor and the advised me yes. He then advised me he didn't hear it. Got car back and the same noise again-- long story short my car has been back and forth to the dealership from May 2010 until October 2010 every month and sometimes twice a month. They have reprogram my RMP, replace my AC compressor, then replace my transmission and come to find out my transmission had a leak that they didn't bother to tell me about. I have been on the phone with MAZDA corp. and MAZDA rep. who has been working on my car since yesterday and called today and stated it is normal; which is not. I was wondering if anybody has had this problem with trouble in 2nd gear accelerating and slowing down. I have been in contact with BBB Auto Line and filed paperwork with them and waiting on a meeting, to see if something can be done b/c now they are telling me it is normal, after replacing all these items on my car when the problem started at 23,000 and now it has 27,0000 miles on it. I just want out of the car all together.

    Let me know if anybody else is having problems with gears and transmission.
  • Wow do you work for them? My credibility?
    Yes in the state of Massachusetts the Interstate 90 toll road only allow contracted towing companies to remove cars from the highways.
    Just to send an update. Indeed my transmission was blown on arrival at the dealership. The transmission control module failed without any warning. The transmission was totally destroyed internally according the diagnostics done by thier Engineers. I was well taken care of by the dealership with a loaner car and compensation for not having my new car for a couple of weeks while they replaced the TCM and the Transmission. They say they have never had this happen before.
    I am sure it will be traded in before I run out of the 3yr 36K
    I hope no one else has the misfortune I have had. The new transmission has 500 miles on it and it working fine again. *fingers crossed*
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    Are these vehicles equipped with manual or automatic?
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    Ok, I'm getting worried now... :(
  • esbnesbn Posts: 1
    I parked my car in my driveway (on a hill) the other night. After we had been home about an hour I heard cars honking outside of our house. When I looked out the window my car had rolled out of the drive way across the street and partially into another driveway. When I climbed inside the car the car was still in gear and the emergency brake was still engaged. This has happened before, but I thougth maybe I had left the car in neutral.
    Has anyone else run into this issue?
  • jylissjyliss Posts: 3
    About a year ago, when my car was with the dealer for an unrelated problem, they said my transmission fluid was dirty and they did a transmission service. Three months later, when my car was with a local mechanic for an oil change, he noticed that the transmission pan was pitted and rusting. He suggested I call Mazda. My car was one month out of warranty and, as I live far from the dealer and am disabled, I don't go to the dealer for routine service, so they said they wouldn't cover it. I brought up the fact that the pan had to have shown the pitting when they did the transmission service but to no avail. Now I've had to spend about $300 on a new pan and service because I started leaking fluid. I've never had this problem with cars I've had much longer or with the used cars I bought when I was younger. I'm very unhappy with Mazda and I'll never buy another one. It's a shame because it's such a sharp looking car and I always get compliments on it.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Keep in mind that it's your Mazda dealership that you're unhappy with, not Mazda corporate. The problem here is that Mazda (and all other manufacturers for that matter) only have so much pull with their franchise owners (the dealerships), and as such, some dealerships are better (often much better) than others.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    edited October 2010
    I thought he did call Mazda, though it is not clear, that was my impression from this: He suggested I call Mazda. My car was one month out of warranty and, as I live far from the dealer and am disabled, I don't go to the dealer for routine service, so they said they wouldn't cover it.

    Anyway, while it is unfortunate to have an unfair $300 repair bill, swearing off the brand seems like an over-reaction to me. If it were $5000 for an engine or transmission or something, I could understand...but $300 is a pretty small repair bill these days.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Anyway, while it is unfortunate to have an unfair $300 repair bill, swearing off the brand seems like an over-reaction to me. If it were $5000 for an engine or transmission or something, I could understand...but $300 is a pretty small repair bill these days.
    Agreed.
  • Yeah, I agree too.

    I can spend almost $300 on just routine maintenance at times. There are people here with several thousands dollars in repairs that aren't being covered fairly by Mazda. These are the people that should be swearing off this brand. $300 is nothing.

    Overall I like this car. However, it does look nicer externally than the internal quality in some regards. I think some of the Ford shows up in these Mazda's. To make a car this cheap now days means using cheaper parts. I haven't had any major issues, but I've had more issues than I had with new Honda's ten years ago.

    On a side note, any one replace the clutch on a 2004-2009 Mazda3 that can post the cost they paid (and whether it was at the dealer or an independent shop?). My clutch will need to be replaced in the upcoming months. (result of teaching wife to drive manual = short clutch life). Thanks.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    edited October 2010
    "I think some of the Ford shows up in these Mazda's. To make a car this cheap now days means using cheaper parts. I haven't had any major issues, but I've had more issues than I had with new Honda's ten years ago."

    I'm thinking you need to think again; in many/most cases Fords of late have had nicer interiors (material wise) than Mazdas of the same vintage. When I bought my Mazda3 I test drove the Focus and the Civic; from a material perspective the Mazda had the worst of the three interiors (by a pretty wide margin, geez, even the Cobalt had nicer materials), but the best of the three in function.

    As if that isn't enough, next year when the new Focus comes out it will absolutely smoke the Mazda3 from pretty much every perspective. Said another way, I don't think you can lay blame for Mazdas corner cutting at Ford's doorstep.
  • Hmmm, I have a Mazda3 with just shy of 31,000 miles on it with the original clutch. Why is that surprising? Because this last spring I taught my 16 year old son to drive a stick and he was none too gentle on the clutch on many occasions (the burnt rubber smell is hard to miss even when I wasn't with him in the car). Long story short, if my clutch goes out any time before the 100,000 mile mark, I'll know why. Given the abuse my clutch received compared to yours, I find it amazing that it has failed so early on

    I wonder how your son's learning compared to my wife's? I taught my wife to drive manual on our 2008 Mazda3. She was very abusive on the clutch. The car is at 32,000 miles and just recently began showing clutch wear as clutch shudder when slipping in 1st, 2nd gear. The technical says the clutch still bites ok, but it will shudder like this until replaced. I expected a shorter life due to teaching my wife on it, but I'm not sure I expected it to be this short. Although its hard to tell right now whether the clutch is going to go out totally very soon, or I'll get another 6-12 months out of it. I was originally hoping for 40,000 miles with it, given the abuse it had.

    I've owned Honda, Subaru and VW manuals and ironically this is the only one that has ever needed clutch replacement. Its also the only one some one learned on though
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