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  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Sure... In part, I'll be looking into the companies that manufacture the hardware and the internal components and semiconductors. I'm still not sure about the carriers. At one point I had some money in the cellular tower companies, but I need to follow up on that more closely at this point to see if it's a good idea any more. Also, there are things going on with regards to streaming TV into those handhelds, and there are companies involved with that at different levels... worth a look. The e-book thing is literally days away from becoming a more immediate trend with unknown results, but it could be a good investment in its earliest days. I guess I intend to uncover every stone I can and take a good look. It's hard to imagine Google stock going up more, but I think it could. I recently did well with it, and I'll be looking at it again. Netbooks might do well, and certain retailers might benefit, but I don't really know until I take a close look. As I mentioned here recently, I expect gaming to grow, both on the console level and the mobile level, so I'll be looking into that as well... but this is all too early for me to get specific. I need time. I'll give you specific names after I do more homework over the next several days.

    What's your perspective on all of this?

    TM
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    What's your perspective on all of this?

    I definitely agree that hardware and chips are better than the carriers. I took a chance with Motorola back in March and did quite well there. They were staring death in the face, but I think their handset business has a shot at a comeback, now that they are finished with the umpteen RAZR variations. Motorola could become the premier Android phone builder. HTC knows what they are doing with WinMo, but their Android phones have been pretty underwhelming. I got into Broadcom at the same time as Motorola, and that's also been doing well.
  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,857
    That certainly is a well thought out strategy, and clearly put.......I only wish all that thought could be used to make an investment, as it use to be ....As I have said, this is a traders market, and a person has to live with that, until times change.....On occasion I have made a decent trade, but really not much money in the whole scheme of thing, and also some poor ones, and they hurt more than the good ones :) Pride Cometh Before a Fall.....So I have taken a different approach---for me---these last nine months or so, and have gone the bond route......My thinking was and still is, if I can get a return of better than ten percent, and decide that is satisfactory, I have to leave alot on the table--IF-- I could trade and get twenty percent...Knowing the difficulty in trying to trade, I chose the lesser return....I hope that time shows, another more accustomed means to invest again, after doing the homework, and holding for a decent amount of time, and be rewarded for that...I do not plan on holding these etf for a long period of time, but neither do I plan on selling until I feel confident that there is a better chance, and the market isn`t rigged agains us----Remember Goldman is just waiting to take you down with their trading programs etc...Big Occupus(sp) sucking the life out

    Tagman you have made a huge adjustment, and have landed on your feet, so I congradulate you as a human being, and I sure wish I had an answer for a good trading strategy---other than doing what your `gut ` tells you......Tony
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Tagman you have made a huge adjustment, and have landed on your feet, so I congradulate you as a human being...

    Tony, you consistently demonstrate so much class around here... and I thank you for your kind words.

    Without reservation, I agree there is now a large amount of risk in the stock market at this point, and that is why I am trying to be focused and very careful, as I don't want to get caught up in the "trading", as you have appropriately described it, IMO. I now feel more comfortable with market if I make a good "investment" in a rapidly growing segment of technology. That kind of stock purchase feels more legitimate to me... even though there is still risk.

    It is getting harder to justify many of the different share prices, as too many of them now seem overvalued. Yet, I do believe there are still some bargains and smart purchases out there.

    The more I think about it, the more I want to suggest that as I move forward, no one here should in any way consider my stock selections as any kind of recommendation... because I will be taking on more risk than before, and I wouldn't want anyone here to lose their hard-earned money because of something I posted here on this forum. I certainly am not a financial advisor, and I will just share some of my personal selections with all of you when I have determined what they will be. I recommmended my purchases to some of you in the past, but moving forward I am not going to recommend them... just share information. The advise you offered Sandman to consult with a financial advisor is good advise and I agree.

    Like you, I think fixed instruments are a great way to make money with reduced risk. As you know, if you are getting a return of 10%, then you will essentially double your initial investment in just a little over 7 years by doing absolutely nothing, and just staying the course. That's a very cool scenario, IMO. You are smart.

    Given the stock market's wild rides of the past decade, many folks have been severely burned by the market, and many innocent folks have lost their retirement accounts, or had them slashed into a fraction of their original size.

    And... I am now of the belief that the market may demonstrate periodic increased fluctuations for a very long time, possibly forever. Without some reasonable degree of steadiness or average increase over a long period of time... investors like Charlie (who just stay the course over the long run) can get seriously burned, because the timing for market entry and market withdrawal might not work in favor of the investor's actual life requirements. IOW, at the point in time that the investor needs the money to retire, for example... the market could be going through a serious downturn essentially wiping out the investor's retirement. The investor might not have the kind of time (many years perhaps) it would take for the value of his account to rebound.

    Anyway, I'm thinking that my future maximum amount of investment in the stock market might be somewhere around 25-40% of my total portfolio... with the other 60-75% in fixed instruments.

    In any event... I'll let you know which stocks I purchase next week, assuming I purchase some.

    Thanks again.

    TM
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    I don't really buy into the Financials being at major risk. I'm not running to them but I don't buy the big risk scenario there and I'm still holding my Citi. Biggest mistake I ever made, well one of the biggest was selling Apple way too early. Got back in in around 170 but I sold at 128.50 on a stupid stop loss because I was going to be out of town. Kick myself bigtime for that one because it's the one company who's fundamenmtals are fabulous and I'm a fundamentalist at heart. Their Balance Sheet is unbelievable.

    I'm now convinced the S&P runs to 1200 and the DOW to 11,000. Beyond that we need financials to roar and housing to come back. The two ae self fulfilling. As housing comes back financial earnings may roar as write-ups of assets and lowering of reserves add paper profits in on a large scale. If that is delayed we probably go into a trading range.

    Tag - all along I've liked retail and tech and I bought mutuals in both sectors. I'm not a big individual stock bettor. I'll follow certain ones I like such as Apple, bet on them and bet tthe sectors. Tech is always the way out and retailers, especially lux retailers are usually the first to bounce back and do so in a big way.

    I'm noy a seller - not for awhile.

    BTW - Apple probably headed for $300. They are making all this money mainly from US holdings. Internationally they are just starting. Stock probably runs to 325+ in 12 months or less actually.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Hey there... looks who's back! Len, thanks for the info. Actually, I got back in the market this morning, but in a very specific way. I purchased 21 different stocks that I believe together will average me a decent return. Some will do better than others, so I decided to purchase them as a total group... if one of them turns out to be a very bad part of the group, I'll dump it, but the idea is to look at the average return. I purchased some at heavier levels than others.

    Apple is indeed part of that group of stocks, as are other computer companies, handheld device manufacturers and cellular service providers, numerous semiconductor companies, and other tech stocks involved in the mobile internet industry. There were a couple of stocks I wanted to purchase that are not easily purchased here because they are Taiwan companies, so for now, I decided to give up on them, darn.

    The only non-tech stock I purchased today was Ford... because of the same reasons I've stated before... so obviously I didn't purchase any financials. I think there are too many issues in the financial sector that I just don't need to mess with at these lofty levels. Citi is a gamble and I agree that it could reward in a big way, but I'd rather not take the chance right now.

    Perhaps I will list all of the stocks in a later post, but I am going to start posting more about cars for a while, as our host has soooooooo patiently requested.

    Good to hear from you, as always!!

    TM
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    Len, it's too bad about your Apple decision, but think of all the right choices you have made the past few years. Your general stock market projections have been perfect. Now, all we need is to have that stinking crude take a huge plunge, but that's wishful thinking on my part the way it looks.

    Pat has been getting upset again about all the market talk, so I better shut-up for a while :cry: . In terms of cars, my wife and I love our RX450h. It is a lot of fun to drive. And of course my LS460L will be 2 years years old this December and I still very much enjoy it.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,703
    Would love to get that kind of return on any investment vehicle actually. Not quiet sure where to look though. Have been very satisfied with my AT&T and plan to add a bigger position once the last of my inheritance gets to me. Plan to look at some muni bonds, general obligation ones also. Right now am seeing some good growth in my emerging market mutual funds but will keep it at the 33% of the portfolio as I think diversification is the way to go for consistent growth for any portfolio.

    So many friends at work give advice on where to allocate the $50k or so due me soon that my head is swimming. Am really a newbie with investments, as I never really had the extra $ to devote to the many financial markets. Thanks to some good investments from my dad & grandmother, I got gifted with over $100K in the last 3 years, so I'm a work in progress actually. And what a roller coaster in the global markets these past few years, that now I'm discovering that I'm really a more conservative investor than I thought I was. That's why I'm like a sponge now & listen to everybody who gives their financial advice. I don't take every suggestion & run with it, as I really am a very fiscally conservative investor. But I find it all very exciting & I'm all ears if anyone has anything to say financially speaking. It's all greatly appreciated!

    The Sandman :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,703
    Went to see a local guy who also has a radio show which i listen to when I can. He suggested to plow everything into preferred shares of a good dividend payer like AT&T. He thought it was a better way to make $ instead of just buying the common stock. Will be going to a local bond company in Boca in the next few weeks to get their take on where I should park the $. Don't have much bond exposure so I need to get some. Still somewhat confused as I'm not a good stock picker and don't have the time to be a short term investor.
    Very confusing actually and all I know is that I need this money to grow at decent rate to help fund our retirement which could start any day now if they decide to finally disable me.

    The Sandman :confuse: :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,312
    If you hurry up and buy some Ford stock, you'll get to enjoy the company watering the shares down soon to the tune of $1 billion. :)

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  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    Charlie,

    I didn't know this thread was here. I'll bookmark it and be back in touch. BTW - going to give some serious consideration to the S-class hybrid a year from now. As expected the LS is again flawless and I might buy it outright. Don't know but in about 9 months I'll start thinking about my next sedan. By next April or so I also have to see where we are going with the Infiniti. I'd buy it out as it's that good, but I didn't take the nav at the time I leasedt it and that's something my son needs in a car. Got him a portable one and a great one, but keeping it on the dash is no fun and he always worries someone will break into the car to steal the nav we bought.I've been driving it a lot lately (he's in first year at Rutgers and can't have a car on campus) and I really enjoy the switching off into the various types of vehicles I have and I really love all three.The MB GL really does ride like an LS or S. It's ride quality is that good!

    Re-Apple - Just a bad mistake. I was going to be away and just put in a stop-loss and it executed on a market down-turn that made absolutely no sense at that time. The mistake wasn't the stop-loss, it was not buying back in to what I knew was one of the best investments on earth. I never look at Apple (or any cash rich company) on a pure PE basis calc. I subtract the cash from the market cap and recalc the PE. Similarly I add debt to the market cap and PE calcs for debt ridden companies. At the time the market was driving Apple down the adjusted PE got ridiculouly low for such a strongly growing company with an impeccable Balance Sheet.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    Now, all we need is to have that stinking crude take a huge plunge, but that's wishful thinking on my part the way it looks.

    Charlie, With a 10% unem,ployment rate that is really more like a 17-18% true unemployment rate and with companies and retailers cutting back on iproducts developed nventories, the price of crude is senseless. We are art or near 25 year highs in crude products and going higher still. As a currency oil also makes no sense. What good is a currency that has poor demand.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,964
    ljflx, I also enjoy your financial posts and have been waiting for you to find this forum. Keep those insights coming. I have had the bulk of my investments in municipal bonds for the last few years. It has worked out well so far but I am beginning to get a little antsy now. Also my son just bought a G 37 Journey Coupe. Quite a car.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    The moderators now have zero tolerance on getting off topic. They moved all the recent economic/stock market posts from the Luxury Lounge to here. Well, if you are willing to change, I am doing so as well. Now, we need a few of the others (TagMan, Circle, etc.) to join us here to continue our economic discussions. The last time I paid attention to it, Tag had gotten in and out of the market a few times. I can't keep up with him. I sold basically everything about 2 or 3 months ago near the original high since March. My mistake was that I did not get back in on the nice dip, but I started buying stocks again about a month ago. I even bought some Apple (not much) believe it or not.

    So Len, what are your feelings on the market now? I know that you mentioned the Dow would reach 11,000 possibly by the end of this year or early next year. Do you have any better feeling about the Obama presidency? BTW, my wife and I are now in eastern MA, visiting my brother and sister in the area. We are heading to the Detroit area Tuesday and spend the rest of next week with our daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter before we get back home to IA on the 22nd.

    I am happy to hear that you are enjoying all three of your vehicles.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,312
    I think it's more that people complain to the hosts when they visit a forum to talk cars and find the discussion is hitting every topic but that.

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  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    The moderators now have zero tolerance on getting off topic.

    Great way to lose business. The purpose of that board originally was to be a lot more than cars and personally after awhile the car talk gets boring and redundant - just like the auto mags.Changing things up refreshes a board IMO, especially when you have a lot of high end players who are smart about a lot of subjects as that board has. I still think Edmunds made a huge mistake creating boards about everything imaginable about every vehicle and the result was everyone gave up talking about the cars themselves because they didn't even know where to post. I can't remember the last time I even went to the LS board or any of its siblings.Years ago that board was active as hell. Now I wonder if they get 25 posts in a year.

    BTW - I've had every imaginable offer from C&D to come back to subscribing. So I wrote the editor a while back and said when you start writing stories and comparos that are not predictable 5 years in advance I might come back. In the meantime I know your opinion so why keep paying for reruns. They just don't understand that they'd draw a lot more customers with balanced reporting instead of playing straight to the enthusiast. I actually told him to look how the Cayenne saved Porsche thanks to someone who realized that playing purely to the enthusists would just drive them to bankruptcy.

    I'll give you my thoughts on stocks next week when I have more time. What's your thoughts on the winter now - mild, cold, snowy? Lastly after an incredibly warm October Barrow is now frigid and the ocean is starting to freeze and it looks like they have about 10-15" of permanent snow now.

    Almost forgot to mention - I got my first speeding ticket in 11 years on the Garden State Pkwy in the GL450. I may need to consult Dewey. Further up the road I noted an SL pulled over. I may plead prejudice.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,312
    That's why we created OTC. New folks would go to one of our car forums and see nothing about cars. They didn't feel comfortable jumping in with a car question so they'd leave discouraged. Some would write the help desk - and so here we are.

    I don't follow the other discussion so I don't get the Barrow reference. I went to see a friend there a few years back one winter and really enjoyed it.

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  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    Barrow Alaska. Charlie's business is weather related I believe and I'm a science nut, predominantly meteorology, astronomy and cosmology though I'm a finance guy in the media information business and have my own company with two partners.

    I think the issue Charlie was complaining about and which I echo is there are certain places you make friendships and many of us know each other for years and have multiple interests and want to talk them and cars in the same place. But I understand the forums are not all things to all people but that forum was initially set up by another buddy who only occasionally posts now, Designman, so that we could do just that.

    Here's a link to Barrow, Steve, and if you went here in winter you have my admiration as a brave person. Generally the temperature is zero on a warm day from now thru sometime in early May and the windchill can often reach 40-60 below and there's no daylight in December and most of January. You'll have to click on it soon to see it in daylight as they are probably down to 3-4 hours of it by now and losing a lot of minutes each day.

    http://www.gi.alaska.edu/snowice/sea-lake-ice/barrow_webcam.html
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,312
    I lived in Anchorage for 20 years and the short winter days finally got to me, so we moved Outside ~9 years ago. We went to Barrow one March, so the sun had come back up. Still got a bit chilly. Our friend had a 2 door Focus hatch iirc, and the first time I climbed in the back I broke the seat back mechanism (she kept it plugged in outdoors all the time and it was a chore getting it running). The other odd thing I remember is that many of the cabs were CR-Vs and none of them had the spare tire mounted. Never did figure out if that was related to the cold or they just kept getting stolen.

    One of my old Anchorage friends is a day trader, mostly covered puts and calls. I don't know how he does it since the time zone is a killer. He's always trying to get me into it but my eyes glaze over.

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  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    Len, great to hear from you! YES, I really miss a Luxury Lounge board where one could post just about anything instead of going over to different boards for every single topic. I agree with you that talking about cars constantly is very boring to me so I have not posted anything over there for quite a while. In any case, as long as you and some others (like TagMan, Circle, etc.) visit this new forum and discuss the economy or stock market, I will also join in the fun.

    As far as the winter goes, it is interesting that El Nino has shown more life lately. Obviously, if this continues to be the trend late in the fall and early winter, it will turn out to be a mild winter in the Midwest and Northeast. However, our thinking at this point is that this El Nino will not be strong enough to have a significant impact. At this point, we are still thinking that the winter will be a little colder than normal from about IL through the Northeast. The other thing that I have been watching closely is the sunspot activity. For about 10 days-2 weeks, we had a tremendous sun spot that was causing all sorts of solar flares, etc. This was by far the strongest spot in many years. Is this the start of a more active sun? I hope so, but I an obviously not certain at all. That sunspot has rotated on the other side of the sun but is now ready to re-appear as it rotates all the way around. Evidently is is still very strong according to recent evidence (prominences, flares, now starting to show up as the spot is about to make its re-appearance near the edge of the sun. We'll see what happens over the next several months.

    BTW, I don't really enjoy making seasonal forecasts. One does not look at weather maps or forecast models to make such a forecast, but is more in line with analogue years. What I enjoy much more so is making the 1-2 week forecasts.

    You better watch out or you will indeed turn into another Dewey :D .
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,964
    With the financial problems that Dubai is having, that emerging speculative oil bubble may burst like Krakatoa...and take a lot of folks with it.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Charlie,

    Told you I'd meet you here... LOL!

    With all those various tech stocks I bought recently, I've had some very mixed results. They've been popping up and down, some quite dramatically. It is surprising to me, because there doesn't seem to be any real logic to it, and certainly very little stability. It is a concern, and I can't help but wonder if stocks are a good investment any more.

    Consider that since 1999, the S&P 500 has been a LOSER! Wow... that's a whole decade of going nowhere!

    TM
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    Consider that since 1999, the S&P 500 has been a LOSER! Wow... that's a whole decade of going nowhere!

    Going nowhere but also going to the moon and back during that period :D .

    I have also had my ups and downs in the stocks I bought lately. The Dubai news back on Friday obviously did not help. I am hoping and thinking that it is an isolated case and not something that will spread like wildfire. We need Len over here to give us some of his expert insight.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I have confidence in Len... he's a class act, IMO... and I think (and certainly hope) he will be here when he gets the opportunity.

    His previous post would suggest that Apple is still a good buy, and I am inclined to agree with that. I think I should weed out some of the poor performing stocks (out of the 21), and consider buying some more Apple.

    Also, I think solid large cap stocks that pay dividends are probably a good idea right now.

    TM
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    His previous post would suggest that Apple is still a good buy, and I am inclined to agree with that. I think I should weed out some of the poor performing stocks (out of the 21), and consider buying some more Apple.

    I don't remember if I told you several weks ago that I actually did buy a little Apple stock at 191.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I don't remember if I told you several weks ago that I actually did buy a little Apple stock at 191.

    No, you didn't mention it, but that's very good in the long run. I wasn't all that much ahead of you... it was 187 and change when I bought some. I only bought 53 shares because I bought 20 other stocks at that same time. But now, as I mentioned, I am thinking of weeding out some of those that aren't doing very well and focusing more on the better ones, and I also intend to focus on quality stocks that pay dividends.

    I'll update you on this soon, as I am seriously thinking about making these adjustments possibly tomorrow or Wednesday.

    TM
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    I only bought 50 shares of Apple but I guess it's better than nothing.

    I kind of like what I have been hearing and reading (if one believes it) about the domestic and world economies the past few days. 11,000 Dow by the end of the year is not at all out of the question. I am optimistic about 2010 as well. I think now that Dubai was indeed an isolated case. One of these days maybe Len will join in this discussion.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    It would be awesome if we could have a healthy economy without any of the constant scandals.

    To me, 12,000 for the Dow next summer seems realistic. Also, consider the possibility of a surge in small caps first half of next year if the economy gets healthy enough.

    And, let's just keep hoping that Len enlightens us with his presence here soon. In the meantime, you and I will make sure we stoke the fire.

    TM
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,287
    I love the market action this morning after the bullish employment figures came out. To the moon Alice, to the moon :surprise: !
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    "To me, 12,000 for the Dow next summer seems realistic."

    I've got to love you Tag. You thought I was nuts with Dow 10K by end of this year when I said that last March or so and now you're trumping me 20%. Just kidding you my friend.

    I've been real busy. Stopped in a few weeks back but didn't see any new posts. So no I'm not abandoning my friends.

    Briefly, I've loved the large caps till now because of the dollar and their international trading ability but I also am thinking small caps are ripe to get into. So Tag I'm 100% with you on that. But I do Ithink there's going to be tremendous resistance near 11.000 on the Dow and 1200 on the S&P. I hope I'm wrong but that's my gut. If that resistance isn't there than we will run to 12,000 by next summer and then fall back to a trading range in the 11-12,000 range IMO. I always thought Dow 10K by now was an easy call for two reasons. 1. getting some valuation realism back into Wall Street and 2. the tremendous productivity and margin improvements due to the massive layoffs (both of these occuring with just marginal or even no economic growth). All of this so far has been jobless and oil-less. The fact that we are still building tremendous gas stocks (+4mln more this week) in the face of refinery utilization that's been constantly decreasing and is now lower than after Katrina (actually has been for weeks now) shows there is simply no demand at all, and in fact we are still waning there and will be for quite a while to come. What I am amazed at in oil is the level of patience speculators have shown to keep buying something that has so little demand. I was right about consumption but dead wrong about speculation interest lasting in the face of such terrible data.

    Anyway to get the next leg up to a firm 12,000 that is buildable higher we are going to need to see unemployment start to fall and we are going to need a very slow Fed tightening and we can't have tax increases. I don't agree with anyone that sees the Fed tightening soon simply because inflation is at bay and there are still way too many reasons not to tighten. I'm loving the $5,000 gold predictions. Reminds me of Dow 36,000 and oil $500. Whenever you see that level of extremism predicted get the hell out and take your profits. Anything predicted to that extreme may run up a bit more but those are the first signs of a big fall in the not to distant future. Number 1 rule of investing to me is you don't have to sell at the peak, nor do you have to buy at the bottom. Getting 80-85% of peak will do wonders for you all the time.

    As for the speeding ticket - It's been handled. Damm Mercedes has to be so quiet at 82mph! Still absolutely love it Tag, It's a phenomenal SUV.

    Charlie - Have you seen Barrow recently? Ocean frozen and snow covered. How anyone lives there is beyond me. The webcam site had a beautiful full moon yesterday shining on the frozen ocean in the waning days of twilight.

    Hope you guys all had a great Thanksgiving.
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