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Isuzu Trooper

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  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I have a 99 S. Only 25K on it. The seats, in my opinion, are great. Especially on long road trips. I do 5/6 hours no problem, seat wise...too much coffee makes those stretches kind of long. The material holds up for me. My son is 3 and has yet to cause any damage. The plastics are very durable...but not very luxurious. Function and form are great. If you are looking for an RX300, it isn't. Noticeable "clunk" when the transmission downshifts 2 to 1 coming to a stop it is normal (too long to go into a technical description), but OK.

    Problems? hmmm...stock shocks are soft, a lot of us upgrade to after-market, Rancho's or OME. Plastic wheel well trim chips easily, it is black underneath. A fair number of people, including me have had problems with alignment, well not the alignment per se, but finding a shop that can do it right. It is a heavy truck, and without good alignment, it can follow the crown of the road easily making it feel like a pull to the right. Not a major problem, but if you encounter it, don't be discouraged, find a shop that can align trucks, not cars. Mileage, expect 14-17, if better than great. It doesn't handle great, it handles and rides like a truck, not that it is unsafe, but it is slow to corner, and it has some body lean. Also there is oil burn. You can expect to us up to 1/2 quart per 1500 miles? I burn very little, but some people here report small amounts.

    You should get a sturdy, rattle free, super offroader, that you will love. I would check the carfax though, the used market...overall, very reliable. I don't know if you will get any warranty buying it used, but be advised that dealerships are few and far between, Isuzu as a whole is shrinking in the US SUV market. I posted a lot, but as you can read, not any major problems, some only found by OCD owners.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night. I was flipping around, the movie "The Pledge" with Jack Nicolson has several Isuzu Trooper scenes in it. Probably the best press Isuzu has gotten in years.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Just got back from paragon. Had a great day. Pics are being uploaded as we speak.

    -mike
  • I own a '95 S model with 85k. The cloth seats have stood up well with time, and look like they are brand new. The seats are very comfortable on road trips, as I have spent 10 hours of straight driving, and I love the front seats. I have spent over 3 hours in the back seat with two other people, and that was actually nice. FYI: I’m 170# @ 6’. The lack of armrests on the S model does bug me, but I have seen the Isuzu chairs with armrests, as well as Ford/Dodge/Chevy, and I am not impressed with any of them. I don't think there is a way to add armrests to the seats, but I could be wrong. You can always buy an aftermarket chair if you really wanted one, or go to the junk yard and rip the seats out of a Trooper that has them.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Ours has about 63,000 miles. The seat fabric is not noticeably worn anywhere, even on the driver's seat. Ours is an "S" with the Performance Package, which means it has armrests for driver and passenger's inside arms. However, I only feel the need to use the armrest about half the time.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Just an FYI, Planet Isuzoo will be having a camping and off-road trip to Uwharrie, NC April 26-28. Everyone is invited! Details on the http://isuzu-suvs.com/events page.


    -mike

  • cknottcknott Posts: 61
    Paisan,

    You've got to stop making waves over there on the trailblazer forum. I don't want those yups coming over here and chatting on our board.

    Have they got issues or what?

    HaHa

    Chad
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm truely amazed at how many problems they are having with their vehicles. It's saddening :( The worst is they have been buying American cars so long they think it is normal to have missing gaskets and fix things on their own.

    -mike
  • cknottcknott Posts: 61
    I promise, I am only hitting the post button once.
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  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    Sbcooke,

    I'm assuming the 4runner you guys have is the Hilux based vehicle which has been around for a long time now. If that's the case, then the current Prado we have in Australia has more room than the 4runner and approaches the Trooper for capacity. The seating in Trooper is roomier and more comfortable than Prado. Prado has more rearward travel in the front seats though.

    Also, Prado's 3rd row seating is for 3 persons (skinny, little persons) so it is an 8 seater. The seats also fold up more efficiently than the Jackaroo's, taking up less load space.

    I can't comment on the new generation. I haven't seen it other than on the net.

    The only Lexus SUV we have is the Landcruiser based LX470.
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    My wife just called me. It sounds like Monty's transmission has had enough and is now clunking and jumping badly when selecting Drive and when shifting gears.

    It's off to the dealers under warranty, probably under tow.
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    CKnott,

    Just making sure I read it right. Your mileage deteriorated with the larger diameter tires?

    You would expect that the larger circumference of the tire hence the fewer revolutions per mile would mean less fuel used.

    It would seem that the gearing change means higher fuel consumption instead.

    Regards,
    S a v v a s
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It's the un-sprung weight and energy needed to get the heavy tires moving. Also in my case the 275-70s have about 30mm more tread on the ground so more rolling friction. Also you need to punch it more to get up to the same speed.

    -mike
  • So Paisan what did you think of Paragon? Was it worth it? Would you do it again?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It was excellent. I had been there as a passenger once before. Definitely will be heading back again.

    -mike
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    Is there any tire out there that was designed to be more efficient in a larger size, particularily larger but made with lighter materials that are still strong?

    Tire weight is usually not even an available parameter in tire data. It should be one of the important data they compete on.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My guess is no. Unless you go to a narrower tire you likely will be stuck with a heavier tire, especially an LT tire. Tire weight is usually listed on the manufact. page. I know it's a big issue on my subaru when buying race tires.

    -mike
  • it's not so much the weight/mass of the tire, it's that when you increase the radius a small amount, you are increasing the polar moment of inertia a large amount(which directly increases the amount of energy stored in the wheel at any given speed). Now if tire and rim manufactures posted the roational inertia numbers for their tires, that might be something. There are some easy tests to figure it out, but they require actually having a wheel/rim in your possession :-( The total mass/weight of the tire does contribute to how hard it is to get rolling, but if I had a 100 pound bowling ball, and a 100 pound 32 inch tire, I'd rather try and roll the bowling ball :-)
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    Why are tires not made with kevlar belts instead of steel belts. Kevlar is what bullet proof vests are made of and it would save a whole lot of roational inertia. I think bike tires are made with Kevlar. I would be willing to pay 50% to 100% more for lighter tires because they would pay me back in performance and MPG.
  • that is a good question. I wonder why I haven't seen any kevlar tires for cars. I have some on my bike though. Kevlar is alot mor expensive than steel. Kevlar can stop a bullet, but sharp fragments that don't compress will easily cut through it (ice pick, non-hollow point bullets, knives...nails, glass...). Oh yeah, and larger tires can almost be guaranteed to hurt your city mileage, sometimes they will increase your highway mileage though. I wonder if kevlar can stand up to the temperatures of car tires and those loads.
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    That audio clip of the radio guys scamming the girl is hilarious! I feel like I'm going through the same thing with the Subaru dealer. Actually the costs did go up to about $1200.00 but it's because I'm electively doing a few extra things. Essentially, parts of the 90k tune a little early. But, I decided to get a little leverage against the dealer and sent out 9 faxes to local shops using the list of parts the dealer faxed me. I'll see if there's any arguement that cn be made for labor (primarily) based on any trend I see from the independent shops. Will keep you updated, and no, you can't buy it as is. :)

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    Bridgestone Dueler R/T is a kevlar belted tire that is used by the Holden Rally Team. So it suits the Trooper/Jackaroo. However, big $$$ in Oz! Something like $700AU each!

    I agree that weight should be a parameter that is specified in tire catalogues. I sometimes wonder how much those BFG A/T's are costing me in fuel, as they were fitted prior to delivery of the car. So I have no experience with the standard Goodyear Wrangler AP's.
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    Guys,

    My transmission woes were fixed for now quite easily. It was a management module glitch. Error P0705 - Transmission Range Finder. Basically, the car is female and was having a blonde morning being unable to decide what gear to use.

    If your gear changes are accompanied with banging and shuddering, stop immediately, turn the car off and wait a minute. Start up again and the symptoms should disappear. Proceed to your dealer ASAP and have them check the computer diagnostics. They will see how often the problem occured, reset the management module, give you two aspirin and send you on your way.

    Make sure that you keep a record of events, because if you get a repeat you have a real problem, not just a glitch.

    Mine is going back in a couple of weeks for a further check of the diags and to see if the error has reoccured.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    When my brake lights blew a fuse, my tranny acted exactly the same way. I popped in a fuse all better.

    -mike
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    I can see the relationship between a brake light fuse and the transmission .... NOT!!!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Basically if your tranny starts acting funny you are gonna get the car checked out. They do this often as "attention" getters perhaps? It worked for me though.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I am deciding between 275/70 and 265/70's. What concerns me about the 275's is airing down. When I go surf fishing, you have to air down to 12-15 PSI for optimal traction and not to destroy the beach. With the larger tires on the stock rims, I am concerned about them not being able to stay on the rims at such low pressure. Any thoughts?
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