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Isuzu Trooper

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The VW is tiny 55cu feet storage, it will have low range, but it's no off-roader. also at 50Kish price tag I'd take a TLC over it anyday.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Another pine barrens run this sunday. http://isuzu-suvs.com/events for details.


    -mike

  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Sounds interesting. 11 inches of ground clearance, not bad. I wonder what happens when it scapes over a boulder or log for the first time (or maybe last time). It will probably be a good beach vehicle. "Hard core off-road" I doubt. I imagine it will have limited wheel travel, it will have to to keep its handling under wraps. Skid plates, tow hooks? Maybe it will fit somewhere between my Trooper and MDX? Except that it is a volkswagon...in a few years the windows will stop working and then one of the rear doors will never open again, then the light switch will turn the radio on and off...doh...
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Also 11" is the Maximum ground clearance. Similar to the rating that Ford uses for the new Exploders. This is a new Fuzzy math type marketing crap. Why they can't just measure the lowest thing on the car is beyond me and give the MINIMUM clearance!

    Have to agree I don't see it being a long-term vehicle with VW rep.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I think it looks much better than the Cayenne. I think Porsche tried to hard to make their version look different than the X5. I am sure it will be cool, like roadkill, you just can't look away.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    They aren't related though. The Porsche is the same as the VW.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I know. But the VW has very similar lines to the BMW X5. The Cayenne, while same vehicle has a few more curves. I think that since the cayenne will be directly competing with the BMW they tried to make it look dissimilar...and less attractive.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yeah they made it look like a boxster SUV, which just doesn't work in my book. They look like jacked up sports cars. Like someone was on crack and put a lift kid on a regular car. Oh well, at least my troopa will last like another 200K miles so I should be set for a while.

    -mike
  • gtroopgtroop Posts: 85
    Paison - Try mounting the gauges to the driver's side A-pillar. You should be able to find a molded plastic piece that will work to mount them in since I'm sure no one makes it for the Trooper. Look at a speed or import tuning shop...

    I can't believe they are going to ask that much for the VW SUV - they have always been too proud of their cars at VW, the Jetta, Golf, GTI, and Passat are over-priced. Audi and VW will end up canabalizing each other's sales and weaken the company to the point that GM will buy them too.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Nope, I don't do A-pillar guages. That is Boy-racer stuff, especially on an SUV. They'll go in a very inconspicuous place. I only need to check them once in a blue moon or if there is trouble detected.

    -mike
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Posts: 837
    Well, I got all 4 of mine on, finally. Took 2 afternoons. Started on the Rear Wednesday. Got the right rear off using a 1/2" drive breaker bar and 3/4" socket. On the bolt head since I could not get a socket on the nut and could not find a 3/4" open/box end wrench in my tool pile. Glad I had the 16" bar to finally break loose the bolt, then used the regular ratchet to finish.

    Suprise, the bolt for the Trooper is 9/16". Hole in the shock bushing is 1/2". Get on phone to 4wheelpart.com. Finally get transferred to someone in their 'techinal' area. He recommends just knocking out the steel bushing and putting the bolt through the rubber gromet (sp?). That is what I did, but I'm having second thoughts and will call Rancho for advice today. I have gone ahead and reclaimed the larger steel bushings from the stock shocks and with sufficient lub should be able to insert them in the rubber gromet. Not real happy about this sequence. I need to get the instructions out, but if I remember correctly, they are vague about what parts you might need to reuse or replace. I would have like a warning from Rancho in their application guide or from 4wheelparts.com that the shocks will work 'with modification'. I'm sure an installation shop will have equipment to replace the bushings or whatever needs to be done. It was difficult for me with a hammer, vise and punch to remove the rubber gromet, etc.

    Left rear top was a b***h to get to. Finally used the 16" breaker bar with about an 8" extension over the axle to finally get a little turn on the bolt head to break it loose. Next time I think I will put it up on the jackstands a few inches to get a little more working room.

    Good news is that I did the fronts last night. Not nearly the effort needed. One of them was difficult to remove top nut, but with vise grips to keep the whole top from turning I was able to get it out.

    Drove it to work today and payed particular attention to a couple of memorable bumps. I think these are a definite improvement over the original shocks. I just have all 4 on setting 3 for now. I can still feel the road and bumps, but have a feeling of better control, quicker recovery and less jolt on the larger bumps... of course, even the stock shocks and the Trooper coil spring suspension rode much smoother than my 95.5 Rodeo, not to put it down, but the Trooper has a much more 'refined' ride...the Rodeo was a jolter.

    If I get any good advice from Rancho about the different size bolt sleeves, I will post it later today.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I like the poly bushings of the ranchos on mine. I'm not sure what my installer did as far as the bolt/sleeve thing but it seems to work well whatever it is they did :)

    -mike
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Posts: 837
    Checked the site www.gorancho.com and found they do have a footnotes section that should cover the different mounting pin/bushing size. Nothing on the Trooper and the RS9215 rears. Will talk to them later today.

    ZUTROOPER or BREAKOR, did either of you have the 1/2" sleeve & 9/16" mounting bolt problem on your Troopers? If so, how did you handle that? Just curious?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    When you guys get it sorted out drop me an e-mail and/or a How-to and I'll post it up in the FAQ and How-to sections on isuzu-suvs.com

    -mike
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    How about using a small industrial display with selectable channels. They make them small enough to fit in the space of three Trooper button blanks.


    See if this will fit:

    http://www.omega.com/Pressure/pdf/DP41.pdf


    If it will fit, there are a lot of things out there that go in the standard 1/8 DIN size.

  • zutrooperzutrooper Posts: 66
    WLBrown, My trooper must have smaller bolts. The sleeves on mine went fine. I was able to install 3 of the shocks in about an hour. I had major issues w/ Top mount on rear drivers shock. I plan to complete job this evening. BTW, trooper drives much better. This is the first mod that my wife approved of. Mark P
  • bawbcatbawbcat Posts: 118
    In terms of traction, my gut feeling is that TOD can't be as good as part-time 4Hi with both the front and rear locked in at 50/50. TOD doesn't send power to the front wheels until the rear slips. If power was continuously being sent to the front wheels, perhaps the rear wheel slippage could have been avoided. This would certainly provide better control than allowing the slip to occurr, and then reacting to it by transferring power. If TOD provided equal or better traction compared to a simple locked xfer case, then why isn't TOD used in low range? I think TOD is a compromise solution that sacrifices some traction in order to allow the system to be used on the street full-time.

    My current Jeep Cherokee has 4 modes of operation: 2WD high, part-time 4WD low, part-time 4WD high, and 4WD full-time high. This is truly the best of all worlds.

    I would guess that TOD provides better traction than the Jeeps full-time mode, since it can lock the center diff at 50/50, but not as good as the part-time high mode where it is locked continuously.

    I personally don't need 4WD on the street, so TOD has little benefit for me in that regard. If there is a compromise in high range performance when compared to the simpler shift-on-the-fly (SOTF, non-TOD) system, I may try to look for a Trooper without TOD. I would appreciate any input on the subject of TOD performance vs SOTF. Thanks!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I had a 97 Rodeo with SOTF and my Trooper goes everywhere off-road that it and any stock Jeep goes (and more) The TOD system usually puts some torque to the front even at slow speeds. If you look through the events section of http://isuzu-suvs.com/events you will see all the places I've gone with TOD. Basically the TOD works fine in any situation that SOTF works. Not to mention you can just put it in LOW and run up to 40-50mph w/o a problem in 50/50 lock if the 50/50 is that important.


    What situation do you think you'll need the 50/50 HI-locked in at? Let us know your situation and we'll give you feedback on how the TOD reacts in a similar situation.


    -mike

  • zutrooperzutrooper Posts: 66
    WLBrown, My trooper must have smaller bolts. The sleeves on mine went fine. I was able to install 3 of the shocks in about an hour. I had major issues w/ Top mount on rear drivers shock. I plan to complete job this evening. BTW, trooper drives much better. This is the first mod that my wife approved of. Mark P
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Posts: 837
    zutrooper.. Thanks. If you could measure the hole in the old shock (or new since they fit for you) and let me know. My old one are about 9/16" vs. the 1/2" on the new. If you have to replace your mounting bolt, you will need the size anyway.

    I was able to get to that bolt with a long breaker bar with about 6"-8" extension going over the axle to the bolt head. Finally got enough leverage to break it loose then could use the normal ratchet to finish removal...had to hold the nut with channel locks. E-mailed Rancho, no answer yet. I may call after I get home so if I need to redo with the sleeves in, I can do it this weekend. (That is what I am leaning toward doing anyway.) Good luck on the last one.
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