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Isuzu Trooper

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  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    hmmm...that is interesting. I never feel any resistance or gear meshing when I use it. Can you supply any more specifics about how it works? Is it attached yet still uses a cable or air pressure to engage gears? or does it physically move a ring/pinion together to lock the center coupling? I have noticed that it moves as power is applied through the driveshaft.
  • breakorbreakor Posts: 398
    you had read my earlier post, #7177 to be precise. Not that you have to accept my conclusions, but for heavens sake I gave you the manual reference pages. Oh well, at least Bluedevils actually reads my posts.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    But mine is the non-paper version of the manual :)

    I haven't looked at the Gear slector yet.

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Which version do you have and how did you acquire it?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    haynes

    Pretty nice cd, I think it was like $100 or something.

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    the same Haynes that sells the more generic paper manuals for lots of different vehicles? Do they have a web site for direct purchase or did you buy on ebay or something?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I got it directly from them, it's the official Isuzu shop manual, isuzu doesn't sell their own.

    -mike
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Not Haynes...
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Helm. I was on a conference call while writing those posts. It is Helm.

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    paisan, how do you like using the electronic version of the manual instead of the paper? Is it easy, or have you printed the whole thing out for easier access? When you buy the shop manual from Helm, must you make a choice on which format to buy?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I bought the CD cause it was significantly cheaper at the time. I'm online so much that looking at it online isn't a problem at all. If I go to do work, I will print out the pages for the items I'm doing. Works out nice cause you can get them all greasy and grimey and then just chuck them when you are done! :)

    E-mail me privately for more details mike@iace.com

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, Haynes makes manuals but those are very generic. They usually try to cover 3 slightly different models with one manual.

    I have one for my Miata but had to refer to Miata.net in order to advance my timing. Though they list some torque specs so it wasn't a total waste.

    -juice
  • Has anyone been successful in making playable copies (backups) of retail CDs??? I have the standard (2002) Isuzu 6-disc changer but everything I've tried so far (various programs, different blank CD colors and brands) returns the error message on the display screen.

    They do work in my home stereo systems, so why not in the Trooper? It really stinks as I can't always carry my music everywhere :-(

    EDIT: I just noticed (using search) that a lot of you do indeed play CD-Rs in the changer. Would you mind telling me what CD brand, what program, and/or what CD burner you guys use? THANKS!
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    The Jackaroo in Australia has a 6 speaker Eurovox sound system installed with either an in-dash single CD player and/or a 6 stack CD player.

    They play CD/R's fine, but not audio recorded onto a CD/RW.
  • Hey Guys,

    I am at the end of a four year lease with Isuzu Motors on my 99 Trooper and was approached today with a payoff option from Isuzu. The terms of my lease included a $12,600 payoff. Isuzu has offered the truck to me for $9,600. Boy they really don't want these Troopers back.

     I have now purchased a high mileage, well maintained Trooper for $3000 less than my original plan. (It's hard to pretend that you are prepared to turn a truck in that has a 2" lift, 33" mud tires, a black steel bumper and a 2" protective coating of dried mud. I sure am glad it was handled over the phone.)

     I mention this because the purchase price was lowered 3 times during my negotiations with them. Hopefully this will help anyone considering an off-lease purchase with Isuzu Motors.
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    leedavidyoung ... What a bargain!!! Good of you to share that info.

    My lease is up at the end of November this year. My payoff is supposed to be $20k AUS. However, current trade-in values are running around the $30k AUS mark. I can actually end up $10k AUS ahead, which is unexpected.

    Therefore, I'm considering trading it in on a new Nissan Patrol with a turbo diesel engine and Dtronic engine management system or Toyota Landcruiser Prado 4.0 V6, at a similar or lower lease cost to what I have now, finalise the existing lease, and pocket $10k!

    It would be nice if Holden & Isuzu have the new 2004 Jackaroo out by then, but I doubt it.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I've never bought a CD in my life! :)

    I use Roxio EZ CD Creator and usually 3M/Imagination CDRs burned from MP3s.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    So what was the total you paid for you 1999 trooper? Payments + buyback?
  • The end of my lease is this May. I have 2 more payments of $415.00. Total out of pocket will be the final two payments + $9,600. The $9,600 is the the adjusted residual value. $12,600 was the original residual value in the terms of the lease.

    The mileage penalty is interesting as well. My mileage is always high, so I usually purchase or trade in my vehicles at the end of a lease. If I decided instead to return this truck to Isuzu Motors and walk away, I would owe close to $ 3,600 in mileage penalties not counting whatever they come up with for wear and tear.

    I have been planning to purchase this truck from the beginning, I just never expected to have $3,000 shaved off the residual price in the process.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    so 4 year lease? at $415 with a $9600 buy back it is just under $29.5K.

    I ended up paying mine off early so it works out to be less than calculated, however for my purchase...I put 4K down and had $405 payments for 60 months which is about $28.5K total.

    I am just curious, because leases are/were very popular, and with cheaper buy backs, so your total cost is coming very close to just outright buying the vehicle...with the advantages/options of a lease.
  • Yes

    In this case two very different finance options: 60-note vs. 48 month lease were very close in final cost. But only because Isuzu lowered my obligation to them. A 60 month note is the better choice in most cases, especially with a down payment. I was upside down on my trade, so the lease allowed me to cover the loss without any out of pocket expense.

    I am provided a vehicle allowance through my company. This allowance is a set amount each month. A lease allows me to keep the monthly payments within my company's limits. I have done this for years and tend to look at a lease as a 4 year note with a balloon payment on the end. I never recommend leasing to others because of the inherent risks involved. For my situation, I usually work the deal both ways (60-month note vs. 48-month lease) and take the best fit. With some of the low APR offers I have seen lately, a long term lease does not make any sense. IMO
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Question for those of you who have stuck with the stock tires (Dunlops?) - how many miles did you get out of them? A friend of mine thinks his are wearing pretty fast on his Trooper, a 00 or 01 model, not sure which.
  • My stock tires were Bridgestone Duellers. They lasted about 45K. My second set (Dueller A/T's) lasted around 45K as well. Both sets had around 5K left on them when replaced. I rotate every 5K and would describe my driving style as moderate. Hope this helps.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Are the OEM tire in general. (some got goodyears IIRC) I swapped mine at around 20K, probably could have gotten another 10K out of em if I wanted, and probably 25K more if I was like most people and change them late. I always change em early cause of my driving style.

    -mike
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    ...traction is a good thing. ;-)
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Our 98 came with Bridgestone Dueler 684s. Our 96 came with Goodyears - Wrangler AP, if I remember correctly. Haven't heard about Dunlops being original equipment on newer Troopers. In general, my opinion of Dunlop tires is pretty high.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Not really, just a brain fart - my old 88 Pathfinder came with Dunlops. But yes the Troopers come with Dueler 684s now that you guys mention it.

    Thanks for the replies, I will relay the info to my friend.
  • My 1995 Trooper had 4 GoodYear APs on the ground and a Bridgstone Dueler 684 under the spare cover. I had asked to swap to the Duelers when I bought it, they said no, probably because they had already swapped away my Trooper's Duelers for someone else. The only thing good about the GoodYear APs is that they are quiet.
    ..
    The APs went 45K to 50K IIRC, that was 85K ago.
    ..
    History of tires on my 1995 Trooper:
    New to 45K GoodYear AP
    45K to 85K GoodYear RFA (low sale price)
    85K to 130K Dueler HL
    130 to present Dueler ATRevo
    ..
    Rated for traction, 1 = BEST Traction:
    1 = ATRevo by far
    2 = HL tread holds little rocks
    3 = RFA rubber got hard then no traction
    4 = AP only for clean pavement
    ..
    Rated for noise, 1 = Quietest:
    1 = HL very nice luxery SUV tire
    2 = AP GoodYear's quietest tire
    3 = ATRevo extremely quiet for an AT tire
    4 = RFA OK when new but quickly got louder
    ..
    Rated for handling, 1 = Best Handling:
    1 = HL very nice luxery SUV tire
    2 = ATRevo handling nearly as good as HL
    3 = RFA stiff
    4 = AP mushy
    ..
    My favorite by a wide margin is the ATRevo.
    ..
    Note that with 255/70/16 I get correct speedometer reading based on a watch and the mile markers on the highway.
    ..
    If you upsize the tires and want some idea of weight difference ask the tire store for the shipping weight of each size.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Our 96 Troop had 51k on the OEM Goodyears when the truck was totaled. New tires were needed within 5-10k miles.

    Our 98 Trooper went 52k on the OEM Bridgestone Duelers. Could have squeezed 60k but wanted new rubber on the truck with winter approaching.

    Both my wife and I have a pretty easygoing driving style, and I think that helps us get more out of our tires than some folks.
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