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Isuzu Trooper

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  • jrr2kjrr2k Posts: 35
    After 9000 miles, I haven't found many but here's a couple. I want to know your gripes and some possible solutions.

    1. No roof rack. The trooper is possibly the only SUV without the option of a load bearing roof rack. I have the ski rack and its only a 50 lbs rack. Solution: After market options.

    2. Cassette player in S model. I had to dig through the garage to find an old Metallica tape. The trooper is now my only cassette stereo.
    Solution: 8 track player:) or a CD MP3 player.

    3. Back up lights are inadaquate. Solution: A couple of auxillary lights on the trailer hitch.

    Like I said not much here. Anyone got any more.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    6-disc changers on ebay for troopers.

    -mike
  • jrr2kjrr2k Posts: 35
    I've been busy working overtime so I can buy a roof rack & trailer hitch for the 02 trooper. The trailer hitch is a slam dunk, but the roof rack issue needs some thought.
    After wading through the mods forum, I've found that the best 2 options start with the overlander mount.
    The overlander expedition rack looks great, but I need it to accept Thule/Yakima components. Anyone got the components on the expedition rack? Will skis and snowboards fit?
    The other option was to modify some Thule crossbars to mount to the overlander roof mount. If I remember correctly from my Subaru, the Thule bike rack needed to be a specific length from crossbar to crossbar. If you exceed the max length the bike rack won't fit. Anyone run into this?
    And finally has anyone ever tried to get ahold of a factory roof rack (rails!) from Japan as shown on the Japanese Bighorns?
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I use an aftermarket Thule Rack and am very happy with it.

    There are holes along the roof rails of the truck under the rubber weatherstripping (theory is that these holes are what are used to move the body into position during manufacturing). There are sets of 2 in the front, 2 in the middle and 2 in the back. I have not seen them but apparently they are small threaded bolt holes covered with masking tape. Someone on this forum posted attaching rack braces into these and then 3 Thule bars across. This would be one way to create a super strong permanent rack.

    I prefer the options of the removable Thule system. I have no issues with it. I added a fairing which decreases noise, but also seems to drop the mileage about 1 MPG on the highway.
  • Mike: thanks for the perspective/idea on oil consumption. This message board is a great source of information!

    Tom (apexcutter)
  • litesholitesho Posts: 1
    I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on improving the suspension on a 99 Trooper. I'm kinda getting seasick and it feels real close to rollover sometimes. I saw a set of Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks on Ebay. Anyone have these or any ideas on tightening up the bounce? Overall it's a good truck and would like to take care of this.
    Thanks!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Get some poly sway bar bushings. ~$20
    I'd go for some Bilstiens or Monroe shocks if it's for on road. Offroad go for OME or Ranchos.

    -mike
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    The KYB Monomax shocks look good, too. I hope to buy a set soon along with bushings and new tires. I understand these three things make the Trooper a whole lot better.

    http://www.kyb.com/shocks/monomax.html
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    In the next few weeks I am going to change from my 3 Thule crossbars bolted directly on 3 pairs of Overlander brackets to a new system that lets me adjust the cross bar length and spacing. Here is what I will do:
    ..
    1.) Remove all 3 existing Thule crossbars
    2.) Get two 78 inch Thule crossbars
    3.) drill holes in one side of the 78 inch bars that allow it to be bolted down to 3 overlander brackets front to back direction on the Trooper.
    4.) get some stainless spring back slot track 5/16 nuts and slide them down inside the 78 inch cross bars such that the springs hold them in place above each hole. These are available at www.mcmaster.com or any industrial supply.
    5.) shorten two of my old Thule crossbars to fit under and inside the rear two Overlander brackets and drill the current one side holes all the way through for the rear two Overlander brackets.
    6.) get some black 3M 5200 sealant
    7.) get some fender washers
    8.) get some 1.5 inch long stainless high strength bolts
    9.) bolt through the shortenned under crossbars and into the nuts inside the 78 inch lenghtwise bars.
    10.) get a Thule bar to OEM roof rack adapter set which is very strong and another set of top crossbars and clamp them on when needed.
    ..
    The results: The shortenned Thule cross bars under the Overlander brackets make the roof rack very sturdy side to side even when no top cross bars are used, so I can use the 78 inch front to back bars as a handle when climbing up on the tire to get to stuff on the roof. The top cross vars can be any length over 50 inches and can be removed or positioned anywhere. The front set of Overlander brackets does not get an under Thule cross bar so no wind noise. The rear two under cross bars can support a basket without any additional top cross bars.
    ..
    As a final touch, and I would like some opinions on this please, I am thinking about bolting stainless 4 inch stainless yacht cleats on the outer vertical surface of the Overlander brackets. These are available from www.WestMarine.com and would provide a very sturdy way to tie things down with regular rope. What do you think? Would cleats look bad up there? The cleats are nice and smooth and would make good handholds as well. Thank You, BoxTrooper
  • serranoserrano Posts: 107
    I just noticed that we have a "boxtrooper" here on the board as well as an "apexcutter." If you combine them, you get "boxcutter." Are these Trooper aficionados really terrorists that are here incognito?

    Tom
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    If I were a terrorist, I know I'd be driving a trooper, you need real reliable vehicles when traversing the dessert and on "mission" critical applications...

    Imagine a terrorist driving an Envoy/Trailblazer? They'd be on their way to bomb something and wind up being late cause they had to stop and "reboot" the car!

    -mike
    PS: Not trying to trivialize Terrorism or anything, I know all too well how serious it is (works <5 blocks from WTC)
  • Hypothetically,
     I think the Trailblazer/Envoy would make an great bomb.
      Loose parts = More shrapnel.

    P.S. On a serious note, Let's pray for a successful mission and the safe return of our troops in the gulf!!
  • jrr2kjrr2k Posts: 35
    Amen to that LDY.

    I get what you are saying boxtrooper. I'd love to see photos of the finished product. Those Thule bars ain't cheap either!
    Well I keep workin and saving, in the end I'll probably go with the overlander 50x60 rack. I would like a rack basket for baby strollers, baby jogger stroller, baby bike trailers and also light dirty gear. I hope I can fit the Yakima snowboard component to the overlander rack and I hope the snowboard will fit inside the overlander frame. A side mounted ski carrier might also work. I will carry the bikes from the trailer hitch.
    I sure wish Troopers had a stock rack!
    I will let you all know how it turns out soon.
  • troop2shostroop2shos Posts: 235
    For general interest, a friend just called to advise that he survived his 4600 mile trip out to the West Coast in his '00 2wd Troop. While on I-80 in WY, he hit some wood pallets in the passing lane at 80+ at night. He advised that his new left front tire went down immediately with a sidewall gash that he could put his fingers through with little resistance - but his Troop never swayed nor deviated from his direct path to the road shoulder...adding that "I really like this truck!!!" There was no additional damage from hitting the debris. This was after he narrowly missed hitting a heard of deer & 1 large bull moose the day before. He also reported that his average MPG was 18.2 overall for the entire trip.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Whenever a new person in my trucks asks me..."aren't these the SUVs that flip over?"...I always tell them "I have only had it up on 2 wheels twice...that was only on the highway though."
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,911
    "In North America, Isuzu will expand its successful diesel engine business while shrinking its exposure to SUVs, where competition has heated up through the use of heavy incentives."

    Isuzu banks on China, Asia for revival (Autonews)

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • ricksrlricksrl Posts: 17
    I made my Rack from Overland brackets and Yakima parts. Instructions are on the isuzu-suvs.com site. Very happy with it, sturdy and functional. I'm thinking about adding a third bar to carry a canoe. If anyone has done this, or would like to split the parts up, as they all come in sets of two, please let me know.
    As to the flat tire story.
    I was doing about 75mph on I-70 west of Glenwood Springs,CO passing a RV when the left rear tire blew.
    After I rolled to a stop, there was little left of the sidewall. The Trooper behaved beautifully, very stable.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hey guys, picked up my ARB Bumper today. Gonna try to put it on on saturday. Hopefully it's a smooth install.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I made multiple trips to a sears hardware store during my install...If you need additional bolts and such, I recommend getting several lengths and a lot of washers to not have to go back...I also tried to use all grade 8 bolts...which I believe most metric sizes are by default, but keep that in mind because you probably don't want to put grade 3 on.

    Good Luck! and post pics.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Luckily for me the hardware store is close by.

    When you did yours, did it have these metal bars that had to be attached? I have the "wide-body" one which I think came out in '01 for australia.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I am not sure what you mean by Metal Bars? I had 3 main pieces. The two that mount/bolt onto the frame and then the bull bar itself which mounts/bolts to those.

    This is what I am talking about.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/64276179/64276270zqABhL
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That's what I was referring to. It's got 2 mounting brackets and the bumper itself.

    How did you wire in the turn signals? I haven't looked into that as of yet. I'm contemplating finding some slim fog lights to fit in there or connecting the turn signals to the parking lights.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/64276179/64276296abbkMu

    Shows a case of Yeungling Brews! That is the key to a good install I take it! :) :)

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Turn signals took me a while...only because they it intimidated me to work on electric. It was so easy it was silly. The hardest part was removing the stock turn signal to access the wires. I ended up breaking one of the plastic attachment points, fortunately I was able to crazy glue it and it held.

    Once out, you just need to find the positive and ground wires (for the blinker, not the parking lights). There are plastic clips which snap over the new lead and the ones to the turn signal, they cut into the wire and make the connection. Then a lot of electrical tape.

    Strange thing regarding turn signals...when my headlights are off, the stock and ARB ones blink in unison. When the headlights are on, the stock and ARB ones alternate. You can probably wire it up so this doesn't happen, I may have not used the ground, but the lead for parking light? I didn't check with the lights on until after I crazy glued the piece back on and had it all wrapped up...I just left it. They burn out more than not, especially on the trail when I hit water.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Have to give them props for great customer service. I have one of their bug guards and the clips/fasteners snapped/stopped working properly so I took it off before winter. Now that I'm doing some work on my Trooper I figure I should re-attach it. Called Lund to buy replacement parts and they are sending them for FREE! I didn't even ask them for it!

    -mike
  • cobbocobbo Posts: 34
    Aloha again, ya'll...
    Finally got a chance to check back in and saw I had missed a few pages, including some discussions about air bags back around the 7350s, seeming to stem from dtlind's accident...figured I would throw in my 2 cents with regards to the accident I had with my 2001 Trooper LTD (a little over 10,000 miles ago) which I reported back in post# 5653...just as a reminder, I ended up going head first into a guardrail about 50mph and the airbags did not deploy. Insurance spent about $12,000 in repairs on the Troop, and I passed 50,000 miles just 2 weeks ago (another 10k and it will be time to buy my 3rd set of tires for T3)...

    Anyway, figured ya'll might want to add my no firing air bags to the list, and take a look at a photo of T3's front end prior to repair...

    http://www.geocities.com/fredpollack/t3accident.html

    Hope all is well,
    -Cobbo
  • savvas_esavvas_e Posts: 347
    Hi Sean,

    The way you describe the blinkers alternating sounds to me like you do have the ground wrong.

    Does the parking light also flicker and vary in intensity when the blinkers and parking lights are both on?
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I don't think so but will check, they just alternate when the lights are on. I probably did use the wrong two wires...I thought about redoing it...but as I said, removing the stock lights was hardest part, and I am worried the next time I remove it will be the last. It really isn't that big of a deal to me...however I wanted to point out to anyone doing the install to check the function with lights on and off before you close it all up.
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    Great photos. Also, shows vulnurability of the Trooper to front end hits - don' tlook like much protection there at all. When the Bumper skin is removed, it shows only mounting brackets as minor protection. How about the bumper skin - is it just plastic?

    I remember years ago slowly backing a Trooper into a concrete light pole pillar. The rear bumper caved in massively.
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