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  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Sometimes the cracking noise is the deflector hitting the hood. The Lund will not do this, as it has more clearance.

    Also, sometimes the noise is turbulence induced by the deflector hitting the windshield.
  • conman2000conman2000 Posts: 158
    Hey,
    Figure you guys will know this one. Did the 98/99 SLX come with the power folding mirrors like the Trooper(LS/Limited) does? I have found a couple which are around the same price as the trooper so I want to look at them as well. It appears the only other changes/dif. are that it was only available with the single Disk CD player and the wheels are different(no hard cover spare too). I don't like the Wheels on the SLX but the price is right and wheels can be changed later down the line. Thanks.

    Regards,
    Con
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    As far as I know they had the power folding mirros.

    -mike
  • conman2000conman2000 Posts: 158
    Thanks Mike,
    I actually got the info on Acura.com and it was there. As in my post before, I think I might go for the 99 Lux. if it is still available. I started the Autobytel request so we will see....Maybe a Isuzu owner(second Isuzu BTW) again by Saturday!
  • erinsquarederinsquared Posts: 178
    I have the factory bug shield and it also makes a 'slapping' sound. Dealer said it was normal and I suspect it is due to wind turbulence at the top of the windshield.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    If your goal in installing a bug deflector is to protect the leading edge of your hood, I recommend you look into having 3M Scotchcal film applied to the hood and other metal front fascia parts.

    It is invisible unless you are right up next to the vehicle, and of course doesn't cause any extra wind noise. Mine has been on for over a year now, with no deterioration evident.

    It is NOT a DIY project, unfortunately. I paid about $100 to have it put on my Trooper.
  • keepontroopinkeepontroopin Posts: 297
    Where do you find the 3M film and who put it on for you?
  • flinflin Posts: 29
    Looking at getting a '01 Limited soon, and wondering about whether to get the 2wd or 4wd. I don't do any offroad driving and I live in a relatively flat region, but am wondering if the 4wd will hold its value much better. Any difference in on-road performance between the 2?
  • gpm5gpm5 Posts: 785
    In any wet or slick conditions like leaves on the street plus rain etc., I keep 4WD TOD engaged. It feels more safe. I would say the 4WD would hold its value much better.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I keep mine in TOD all the time. Gives the car a much better on-road handling characteristic.

    -mike
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    I had it put on at a local place that does all sorts of aftermarket stuff for dealerships.


    Try this place I found:


    http://www.xpel.com/paint/scotchal.html


    It looks like they offer a precut kit:


    http://www.xpel.com/paint/isuzu.html


    I can't vouch for installation of the kit, mine was done custom.

  • centralcentral Posts: 51
    I mentioned how I had just put a Bug Deflector II made by Vent
    Visor on my 00 Trooper. Install was easy, but now I am getting a loud cracking
    noise at moderate to high speeds that is very annoying. Has anyone else
    experienced this or does anyone have any suggestions?

    I have the same shield on a 1999 with no problems. However, I did chase noise problems on another vehicle many years ago so I took some precautions when installing this one, namely -

    I installed the shield as far as possible from the hood to prevent the unit from slapping it.

    To prevent cracking of the shield at the screw-in attachment points (years down the road based upon the other application) I used large metal washers and rubber washers against the shield. I then cranked down the screws fairly tightly to keep the unit from vibrating loose.

    As if the above isn't enough overkill, I took and old inner tube and cut out several 1" by 5"strips. I then laid these in lengthwise right where the unit meets/touches the hood at the bottom wrap around points.

    Lastly as long as your are asking for suggestions, take some old towels and cram them in between the unit and the hood. Then go out for a test drive. If you get the some noises I doubt your problem is the guard vibrating/hitting the hood.

    Good luck.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I owned a 96 Trooper with the 24 valve, SOHC, 190hp version of the 3.2L motor. It was more than adequate for my needs, which did NOT include any towing but did include full-cargo area and 4 people. I now own a 98 with the 215hp 3.5L motor. The difference was noticeable when I first got the 98. I don't rev my vehicles very hard, but even at moderate throttle (shifts at 3000-3500 rpm) the 98 is noticeably more responsive than my 96.

    Most of the stuff in your previous post (#366?) indicates you've already done a good amount of research. You don't sound convinced of TOD's benefits. I think it's great to have the convenience of what's basically an AWD setup. It provides more peace of mind than did the shift-on-the-fly 4WD of our 96 Trooper, since the SOTF can't be left on all the time.

    I'd avoid the 94 Trooper because it doesn't have dual front airbags. I don't remember if these became standard on 95 or 96.

    There are actually several different versions of the 3.2L 6-cylinder in the Trooper from 92-97; it's slightly more complex than you stated in your post but I can't explain it all off the top of my head. Paisan is actually incorrect on the 97 Trooper's 3.2L engine: the 3.2L never made more than 190hp in the Trooper, even though it generates 205hp in some Rodeo vehicles.

    Not only does the 3.5L have 215hp vs. 175-190 for the 3.2L, but it provides 230 ft-lbs torque vs. 188.

    Strangely, the fuel economy was about 0.8-1.0 mpg better in the 96 even though the 98 is rated 1 mpg better, both city and highway.

    Both my 96 and my 98 are/were 4-speed automatics, by the way.
  • conman2000conman2000 Posts: 158
    Hi,
    Good luck on your search. I am currently searching myself. There are a couple factors I would look at for the answer. First one is Cost: Ins. Cost which might give you the answer you need as 2wd are always cheaper to ins. plus you save $1500-2000 on the truck purchase as well. Second is location, for example, I am in NY so I want the 4x4 cause of the weather(plus want to offroad and beach fishing as well). But when I lived in FL, every SUV I saw was 2wd so if you are using it as a daily driver a 2wd is good enough. Resale value is better for a 4wd(not by much though). If the peace of mind of being able to use the TOD on the street in rain and snow, might swing you that way too(Not that many SUV allow you to use 4x4 on the street BTW). I have been looking as used Troopers and I have not come across a 2wd model yet so they are not widely available in the Northeast(Southern states might be the different). I remember last year one of the mags did a report on the 2wd trooper and it was no different than a 4wd they said(plus no savings in MPG too). Since you are looking at a Limited, for higher resale value, get the 4wd. But if you plan on keeping it, the cheapest overall cost for ins., truck price, and maint. is the 2wd. One way to decide to get 2wd or 4wd is to see how many of each the dealer has. If they sell more 2wd, than a safe bet is to go that way or if they sell more 4wd, then go that way. Good Luck.

    Cheers,
    Con
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I had a very bad experience with an Isuzu dealer in Maryland. After we had the deal all set up via phone (I'm in Michigan), they backed out and would not honor the agreement. Email me (white_shoes_white@yahoo.com) if you would like to know which dealer this is. This dealer is one of the dealers that stocks quite a few of the corporate service vehicles (used at Isuzu's southern California U.S. HQ) that represent the bulk of late-model "used" Troopers on Isuzu lots. They also have a pretty good internet presence on various sites such as autobytel and carpoint.

    By the way, a local Detroit dealer advertised a 2000 LS with moonroof (don't know 2WD or TOD) with 14k miles for $19,995. If you find something in my area, I'd be happy to pick you up from the airport...
  • gpm5gpm5 Posts: 785
    Troopers come in and go out regularly at Torrington, CT --biggest Isuzu dealer in CT.


    http://www.carbuyers.com/ct/torringtonhyundai.cfm?TheDealer=538#Listings


    There is a 2000 there now. Don't have any details though.

  • centralcentral Posts: 51
    I mentioned how I had just put a Bug Deflector II made by Vent
    Visor on my 00 Trooper. Install was easy, but now I am getting a loud cracking
    noise at moderate to high speeds that is very annoying. Has anyone else
    experienced this or does anyone have any suggestions?

    I have the same shield on a 1999 with no problems. However, I did chase noise problems on another vehicle many years ago so I took some precautions when installing this one, namely -

    I installed the shield as far as possible from the hood to prevent the unit from slapping it.

    To prevent cracking of the shield at the screw-in attachment points (years down the road based upon the other application) I used large metal washers and rubber washers against the shield. I then cranked down the screws fairly tightly to keep the unit from vibrating loose.

    As if the above isn't enough overkill, I took and old inner tube and cut out several 1" by 5"strips. I then laid these in lengthwise right where the unit meets/touches the hood at the bottom wrap around points.

    Lastly as long as your are asking for suggestions, take some old towels and cram them in between the unit and the hood. Then go out for a test drive. If you get the some noises I doubt your problem is the guard vibrating/hitting the hood.

    Good luck.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Wow, I do know in '97 the Trooper did have a 3.2l DOHC unit. I incorrectly assumed it was the 3.2l DOHC unit that went in the '98 Rodeo up to the current model. I had the SOHC 3.2 190hp unit in my Rodeo and that car was spunkier than my trooper (also close to 1000lbs lighter) I know pre-97 there were a # of hp ratings on the 3.2 SOHC units.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Ok I went to cars.com which has a great page of used cars and their specs...

    '92-'95 Trooper came with a 3.2l SOHC and optional 3.2l DOHC the DOHC being 190hp
    '96-'97 Trooper came only with 3.2l SOHC putting out 190hp
    '98-present Trooper only came with 3.5L DOHC putting out 215hp

    I think that the fact that the '92-'97 body style was nearly identical, I assumed the ones with the DOHC badge were the '96-'97 not the '92-'95

    -mike
  • offroaderoffroader Posts: 23
    I had a dealer-installed Isuzu factory bug deflector on my '99 until a few weeks ago. At freeway speeds, I could frequently (though not always) hear a snapping noise that sounded like it was coming from the upper windshield area. At first I thought it might be from a piece of loose window molding, but a thorough inspection ruled that out. Then I thought it might be the deflector ends tapping on the fenders. That wasn't it either. So, I removed the deflector and Voila! The noise is gone. I believe it was wind turbulence in the windshield area caused by the deflector.

    I like the idea of a bug deflector, but not if that damn snapping noise is going to keep me awake when I'm behind the wheel ;)
  • zman21zman21 Posts: 46
    hi! it's been a while since my last post here. i found troopers in the philippines at www.isuzuphil.com. what got my attention are the headlight wipers and dual a/c. see for yourself guys.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yep the wipers and better headlight lenses/reflectors are std. on non-us market troopers. :(

    -mike
  • erinsquarederinsquared Posts: 178
    The amount of rock chip damage to my hood and glass have gone down since installing the protector, IMHO it is worth putting up with the slapping sound. What is amazing is that Isuzu designed the Trooper to run so quietly that any wind noise or a/c fan motor noise is clearly evident. I have thought about modifying the aerodynamics on the deflector to disturb the turbelence and possibly reduce the slapping sound. Will have to talk to my aerospace buddy...
  • conman2000conman2000 Posts: 158
    Thanks for the tips! I think I know the dealer you are talking about so I will avoid them. As for the CT dealer, I did talk to them before but they did not have any with MoonRoof. The Autobytel dealer did not return my calls yet so if they don't call back, I will wait a few months and try again. My wife likes the Montero so we might look into them as well. Will let you know!

    Thanks,
    Con

    P.S. Blue, that seems like a great price if it is a 4wd, just a little to far to drive back though(thanks for the offer to pick me up!) :)
  • radman6radman6 Posts: 81
    I also had all sorts of problems with the factory bug deflector. It was tapping on the fenders and making all kinds of snapping / tapping sounds that drove me crazy. One day when I was checking the paint rub behind the corner I accidently snapped about 6 inches of the corner off. It was truly a piece of junk and I was happy to be rid of it when I took it off.

    I finally replaced it with a Lund Interceptor. Five minute install, nice looking unit, absolutely no problems with it. It stands off the hood a couple inches so you can even wash and wax behind it. It was $55.00 well spent. We have lots of sand and gravel on the roads here all winter long. We have road construction all Summer so the roads around here pretty much suck year round. The bug deflector saves the hood paint and helps protect the windshield. Everytime it deflects a stone I figure I save my $50.00 glass relacement deductible. I still end up replacing windshields on my vehicles about ever 1 1/2 to 2 years. Wish I would have put one on my pickup when it was new. Now the hoods all chipped up and I'm on windshield number 5.
  • kw9kw9 Posts: 13
    I'm looking at buying my first Isuzu, a 93 Trooper AS with 26,000 miles. The silage is true and accurate (kept at a summer house for vacation use only, heated garage when not used). My questions - how do 93s hold up? What can I expect in maintenance issues? Are Isuzu parts expensive? Are they reliable? Despite the low silage are there any concerns about buying a car so old with such little use (dried seals, stuck plugs etc..)? I've reviewed previous posts and have some feel about Isuzu's but there don't seem to be many posts from owners of alder models. Everyone seems happy with there ewer models which I'd expect. Thanks for any help!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Depending on the price that would determine if it was a good deal. The engine should be fine so long as it was used on a regular basis, even if not for very long. The '92-'01 body styles are almost identical, except for a curvier nose on the '98-01 models, and a bigger engine. The 3.2L DOHC or SOHC in the '93 is a good engine (same basic design as the current 3.5l and the 3.2l SOHC that went out in '97)

    -mike
  • kw9kw9 Posts: 13
    Price about 10K. Car wasn't used much if at all in the winter months. Strickly a summer car on an island. Left island only for service, which wasn't much. No signs of any rust from salt environment - kept garaged, (heated) when not in use.

    Are third row seats available like I've seen in Asia?

    Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    3rd row seats are available from 3rd party vendors here in the states. Check out http://isuzu-suvs.com under the vendor section I believe it is "little 3rd seats" or something like that.


    -mike

  • duktrooperduktrooper Posts: 78
    sounds like a vintage vehicle!! could be lots of fun for a great price. You might want to check blue book value, even though mileage is very low.
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