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Isuzu Trooper

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  • Thank You for your posts. I was a DirectHits user on my 1995 Trooper, where my trailering MPG went from 9.9MPG to 11.2MPG and the engine was much more peppy, and many people on this list did not believe me. So I know how you feel.
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    What model year is your Trooper so I can tell if the totally cheap to try and easy to reverse 20mpg mod will work on my 2001 manual 5 speed Trooper. There is nothing to loose, except maybe a 5 cent resistor and some tape.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You do know that that totally voids your warranty right? And at the same time will eventually have bad long-term effects. Essentially you are cheating the ECU into thinking there is denser or more air-flow or less airflow than there actually is. This results in a bad AF ratio or non-optimal AF ratio. There are certain instances where this is useful, for instance if you have an aftermarket SC or Turbo, you may want to give it more fuel by tricking the ECU. However on a relatively stock truck, it isn't going to do anything. My guess is that the "gains" are a bit of placebo effect :)

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    What model year is your Trooper so I can tell if the totally cheap to try and easy to reverse 20mpg mod will work on my 2001 manual 5 speed Trooper. There is nothing to loose, except maybe a 5 cent resistor and some tape.

    And your warranty.

    -mike
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    While I could use an extra 1.5 MPG...I probably won't try this at least until my warranty is expired.

    I don't mind seeing the posts though...this is a forum. While I don't find it all that relavent for me, I disagree with Breakor.
  • I have had my 95 trooper sitting for a while and just started it up for a while yesterday, and now today there is oil on the driveway, and in engine compartment. Never had a problem before, burns but never leaked. Is the cause letting it just sit for a long time, without driving, or maybe something overflowed some? Any suggestions? Also what is maximum deduction for a vehicle? Just in case anyone knowledgable in taxes is in the forum. Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    How long did it sit for?

    -mike
  • I had a 1995 Trooper for 8 years. The only thing it ever leaked was a very slow drip of power steering fluid. The power steering pump exit hose makes a sharp bend and the oil eventually wants to shoot right through the bend. Mine was stealthy, just an unexplained drop of oil here then months later a couple drops there. Eventually, there was a low level in the power steering reservoir and a slight noise when steering hard while at a stop. I topped off the reservoir right away, then made an appointment with my mechanic to get it fixed. That little hydraulic hose is a foot long and something like $80. It was a good opportunity to get a thourough flush of the power steering fluid.
  • Sat for about 3 months total, with some starting it up in between and putting a few miles on it, on a couple of drives. Mostly just sitting as, Iwhad been trying to sell it. Now it looks like a tax deduction in the waiting.
  • After having the dealer replace the FPR (fuel pressure regulator) to correct a surging problem, after startup, was surprised to discover that the surging is still there - no difference. What eliminated the surge before was to replace the factory bypass tube (2") with a piece of clear tubing (10") the mechanic had in his tool box - I mean in started and idled smoother than it every has since new. So what could this be - the only thing I can come up with is the factory tubing section leaks air (under vacuum) - but why would this occur only on cold startups? Any other ideas? Mechanic is on vacation this week so will have to wait until next week to see what Isuzu thinks is the problem.
  • bsmart1bsmart1 Posts: 377
    I think your right on top of the problem. That leak in the line with the engine COLD could cause the problem, but then go away when the engine warms up. It's all about fuel air ratio and optimization. When the engine warms up it can tolerate the small inleakage, but not when its COLD. Test that piece of tubing and verify your theory. I bet you've got it!!
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Sometimes when vehicles sit for a long time, the seals and gaskets will dry out and shrink. Then when you start it up, you get leaks! My father experienced this with a pickup he would park over the winter while they were in Florida.

    Usually after initial startup the gaskets will re-swell and the leaks should stop...usually.
  • I have not been satisfied with Century Isuzu lately. I had 2nd gear replaced on my transmission under warranty. It took them 15 days and my seat and floor mat were covered in greasy hand and footprints when I picked it up. They detailed it the next day, but that is inexcusable in my book. My speedometer stopped working a week later and when I looked underneath to check it the shifter boot wasn't even pulled back down on the transmission. They also left a random screw sitting in the cup holder. I have a friend who used to be an Isuzu tech there. They moved him over to BMW because they are short on techs. He's happy because the BMW shop is air-conditioned. I'm sure the guy on the bottom of the pile became the new Isuzu tech. I told the service people that I wanted someone else working on my Amigo and they told me there is only one Isuzu tech. Verrrrrrry disappointing.
  • dgluthdgluth Posts: 49
    Where is Century Isuzu?

    There is one here in Tampa Fl. is it the same one?

    Dennis P.
  • Century Buick in Huntsville, Al. They also have BMW, as noted above, and Volvo. They are also expanding, new building, for Land Rover. The tech that worked on my Trooper seemed like an O.K. guy and so far they have been responsive and gave me a loaner when I needed it - understand about dirty interiors and screws left laying around - I think my fix has been pretty generic and minimal number of pieces to lose. Figures that Isuzu gets the open repair stalls - but I get the Trooper.
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    I have been following the topic of what Ltd. Troopers were painted like, and I thought I was going crazy, but I wasn't. Every single Ltd. Trooper in Houston is monotone. I can provide digital pictures if anyone wants proof. My 2 cents.

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    And check them out for myself ;)

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    but I have now seen at least 5, with the word "Limited" on the "C" pillar. I will also say that I searched cars.com and did see two tone Troopers marketed as Limiteds, but they were all out of state. Weird.

    Jim
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Towards the end of the run, Isuzu was slapping all kinds of packages together. It wouldn't surprise me if different body styles and trim levels were way off what the brochures/web sites listed. They were emptying the parts bin in my opinion.

    Does anyone know if they are still making Trooper's in Japan for other markets or has production completely halted?
  • buranburan Posts: 15
    Sbcooke wrote:
    Does anyone know if they are still making Trooper's in Japan for other markets or has production completely halted?

     Here is what I found out:
    "Isuzu Motors Ltd. will phase out Japanese production of the Bighorn SUV, badged as the Trooper in North America, by 2004, reports Nihon Keizai Shimbun. Isuzu says it hasn’t decided on a date. Isuzu also will replace the Bighorn in Japan with an SUV built by GM and carrying the Chevrolet brand."
    It is a shame that a well built truck is going away.
  • bawbcatbawbcat Posts: 118
    It's even more of a shame that anyone thinks the Trooper/Bighorn can be "replaced" with a Chevy model, presumably another Trailblazer. They are quite different trucks.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    IIRC, they are being made in Thailand now, and in '05 they will be replaced with a new version based on the Dmax running the direct injection 3.5L motor. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

    -mike
  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    I would hope it won't be similar to BMW X5 or new Volvo SUV. I mean their cross-country ability and the prices.
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    with one of the Koreans when my Trooper is done. Speaking as one who does not offroad the Sorento might be a possibility. Maybe the Kia Amanti if I go for a car or a used Saab 9-5 would be nice. It would be nice to have something a little sporty after being practical and trucky for a few hundred thousand miles. All in all though My trooper has been TOUGH. 106K, going for 200K Good Lord willin'!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    By then Subaru should have their crossover out. :)

    The Sorento is great Off-road seen 1 or 2 out there.

    I'm going to go the Duramax 2500 route when the time comes.

    -mike
  • Well my '00 LTD is definitely staying but my Gen III SHO may get traded for a new '04 Forester XT that I'll haul my samples around for business. The XT is impressively quick after a test drive today. My AWA wants me to stay with the auto instead of the stick in case she has to drive it. I was looking for another Troop but...
  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    There is a lot of SUVs on a market now. But what can be compared to old kind Troop, to its simplicity and reliability.

    How about new Montero's rear diff or its rear suspension? May be a lot of BMW X5's transmission electric devices will be so robust for a long time? Probably yeah, if you do a regular service.

    I bought a '02 diesel Trooper w/MT w/non-TOD t-case a week ago instead my previous 3.5L. So will be keeping a fidelity of Isuzu brand.

    Best regards.
  • That is currently available in Thailand I think. I saw a picture of it. Think Trooper with a shorter hood and a longer people compartment. Sort of a crossover vehicle between SUV and minivan, but with world class toghness and off road ability.
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    If that description is accurate, then those of us Trooper owners with a bunch of children will be pleased. The folks that like to camp out from the off road trails will like it too.
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    Those of us more interested in the "S"port part of SUV will probably not like it, but the "S" people are all suppoded to be driving the Axiom by then. (not good marketing when I, a 20 year Isuzu guy had to go look at the Isuzu.com to remember what the Axiom name was.)
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    I will wait patiently. I have a 2001 Trooper with only 35K miles. It has another 200K+ to go before I change it out, unless there is something so much better that I would be willing to buy, but I doubt it. If they make the 2006 Trooper with the short hood and long people compartment(third row seat) with the diesel and maybe even a light hybrid boost, I would jump to it right away.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I really like the kia on paper. Affordable, small size, good offroad capabilities, etc. Although the edmunds forum here represents a significant amount of problems with its driveline.
  • Then Izusu could be made aware of the section for feedback to them. The Trooper discussion os one of the most productive. This should be taken advantage of by Isuzu as should every other advantage they can find.
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    Here is an input for Isuzu to read:
    Please install on the www.Isuzu.com web page a section describing your future vehicles. Maybe even add a section for web page viewer input on what next vehicle they want to buy from Isuzu. The other car companies talk about making cars to order per each individual, how about designing to order by using continuous input from the Isuzu enthusiasts out here on the internet superhighway.
    Thank You
    BoxTrooper
  • If Isuzu had an interest, they would have put a rep on this forum to monitor feedback & take notes. In my short time looking at the Subaru lists on Edmunds, Subaru seems to take a pro-active role with changes being made to their products based on customer input.
    Paisan may be able to provide more info.
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