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Isuzu Trooper



  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    But you definitely need to wire in that blue wire from the "power antenna" wire of the stereo to the wire on the antenna wire that doesn't fit in your aftermarket stereo. You can use a T-tap instead of cutting off the tip.

  • I know what you are talking about, i'll head to an ovation or something and ask them for a "T-tap", explains why my radio reception sucks too.

    One more question, about getting a check up on the trooper, what's your advice on how to go about it? I thought maybe give it the 30,000 mile tune up, since i don't think it had it; and that way it gets a pretty thourough investigation. I do think something is wrong though, possibly with my tranny, or brakes. Sometimes it feels like something is sticking like when i let off the gas, it slows down quickly, almost like you forgot to put down the parking brake i guess. Make sense? how should i go about this so that if there is a problem it's still under my warranty?
  • Just purchased the geolander model "G051" tires. $107 buck a tire from discount tire, free rotation, a new free tire if they can't fix a blown one or something ... sweet deal, $520 total. Hopefully that will cure alot of the road noise i hear, it is pretty excessive. i am confident about this tire, since this tire seems to get such good reviews on tire rack as well, Will let you all know about it.
  • silverghostsilverghost Posts: 154
    What size are your G051s? I'm also looking at them. Discount Tire gave me an in-store quote of $600 out the door for four 265/70/16s. Strange, their website quotes $567. I can get them from Tire Rack for $500, including shipping and local installation.
  • is the tire, and it's the size that you just said, tire rack has them for $81 a piece. Discount tire will have them for me after they get them shipped to indy where i live, total per tire is $107 each. That brought my total to like $460 i believe, and that is rotation, balancing, valve stemming . . .
    I also got a warranty on each tire for 14 bucks, if i get a nail or some leak that patching doesn't fix i get a new tire free, and since the dealership is paying for my new set of tires, hell . . . why not! I am surprise at how much your discount tire quoted. I'll do you a favor i'll give you discounts number here in indy where i am, you call them and get a quote, then call yours with that info and demand it cheaper. Have to be tomorrow since i am in chicago tonight.
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    Coastie, the "slowing down" when you take your foot of the accelerator, especially at low to moderate speeds, is a feature of the Trooper.

    The transmission stays engaged to the engine, allowing you some engine braking. Imagine if you were going down a hill on a gravel road and took your foot off the gas. It's behaving exactly as an off-road vehicle should.

    It feels kind of like a car with a manual transmission when you take your foot off the gas, right?
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Yeah, the Trooper tranny is not set up to "freespool" when you are coasting, so you do feel some engine braking. I liked it actually, because generally when I take my foot off the gas I want to slow down anyway.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Except when towing. But that's cause if my foot isn't on the gas, it's usually on the brakes HARD! :)

  • Doing a little paying i attention i notice what you guys are talking about, though i have to say this was definetly too much. I still have a concern, i am thinking it might lie in with the brakes, perhaps the calipers sticking closed, once in a while when i have to hit the brakes hard, and I keep my foot on it once i am at a complete stop, and release to accelerate i will on occasion hear a faint noise . . . maybe the brakes being released from sticking is kind of what it sounds like??? At least down there. I am not sure but i guess i will have them look at it when i bring it in for a good check up. I was worried b/c i feel some vibration too when accelerating/shifting that comes from the floor directly under the pedals and on the gas pedal. I know i should wait until wednesday or thursday when i get my tires, so i'll keep you guys posted.
    Where did you get your "T-tap" from mike?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    They are at any auto-parts store or radio shack, they might go by "in-line tap" they look like a blue or red plastic thingy where you sandwich the wire being taped into and stick the wire end of the one you are tapping in with then you close it down and it pinches the insulation making a connection.

  • bstone3bstone3 Posts: 97
    With the Trooper the transmission actually downshifts when you descend downhill - you can see the RPM's go up when it happens.

    01 LS TOD with 46K - so far only problem has been with the surging at cold start on warm days - they replaced both the EGR and FPR - but I think it has not gone away - it did it again the other day when the temp climbed above 70 deg - beside this the Trooper has been outstanding - looking forward to 200,000 miles more. Those posts on changing the spark plugs were interesting - sounds like a scary proposition to do it yourself. If you are getting new tires go to a larger size - the 265-70-16's we installed sure improved the stability and the look. Next stop is to get the front wheel bearings repacked - $80 at my favorite tire/alignment shop here in Alabama. By the way I may be transferred to New Mexico - its all I can do to hold the Trooper back.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    came in on the 2000 models, I think. My 99 didn't have it.
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    It's true that Grade Logic was introduced on 2000 models, but I think all modern Troopers tend to stay in gear at lower speeds more than other vehicles do.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    I agree, but my 99 would not downshift while coasting downhill, which the grade logic models do.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    So I call up to make appt. Of course my previous service writer is gone from the place so my $20 of buttering up on previous repairs has been wasted :(

    I explain to the service writer that it needs a cat and he gives me attitude saying how do I know that etc. I explained that I put my OBDII scanner on it and it shows a catylst inefficiency in bank 1. He said "if it's not the cat, you'll have to pay for our time" I explained it has had a CEL for this before and they reset it and sent me on my way. So I fully expect a fight on this one. Argggg. Worst thing is that it's not even a factory warranty, all they have to do is submit it to the 3rd party warranty company and they'll replace it! Heck they already authorized it when it was at the dealer that went out of bizness (out of Isuzu bizness) but couldn't repair it cause they couldn't get the parts!

  • silverghostsilverghost Posts: 154
    That don't bode well for the rest of us :-(
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    So worst case I'll try a different one.

  • I may be new; very new, but still, screw'em. Stand your ground B/C your right, and you know it, and they are waiting for you to crack. That is what I have learned. Screw them, give them some fight, and wait for your check and/or your refund (however it works) . . . SICK'EM MIKE!!!
  • Still yet . . . any advise on what i should do about getting my truck check up; and/or what i should have done since my warranty ends soon?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Not much to really checkup on the Troopers.

    Biggest suggestions:

    Serpentine Belt.
    ATF Flush/Fill.
    Coolant and other fluid drain/fills.

  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    There is nothing to add, unless you have to check up the screw nuts on the front hubs. Just to make sure.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    The emissions are covered for 7 or 8 years out of the box I believe?

    Are you going to an independent and getting your extended to cover or is this at a dealer?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I missed my appt. so i'm gonna probably make one at another dealer in the area.

  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    The CAT should be covered soup to nuts. One of mine went bad last year and was covered no problem.

    Iteresting though that my IMG went soon after the CAT replacement.
  • seanreidseanreid Posts: 152

    I'm not sure if anyone here will remember me but I had a 1999 Trooper in 2002 and posted to the list pretty regularly while I had it. It was, unfortunately, totalled when an elderly couple pulled out in front of a friend of mine on a coastal road in Quebec. The truck saved her life.

    I replaced it with a Chevrolet Avalanche because that vehicle can carry motorcycles as well as people. I'm very happy with the Avalanche but still look with a smile on Troopers when I see them. So I'm thinking about maybe adding a Trooper to the stable again. Is there anyone here who's willing to bring me back up to speed on these vehicles? If I recall correctly, 1998 was the first year of the TODD system and the new engine, is that correct? If so, I would likely look for a 1998 - 99. I don't recall there being any problems with those model years but if there is anything to watch out for, I'd appreciate a heads up. I'm trying to find the link to Paisan's site if that's still going. Interestingly enough, I still have the hitch, nerf bars and rear matt from the 99 that I could use in another Trooper.


    Sean Reid
    Northeastern Motorcycle Tours
  • seanreidseanreid Posts: 152
    I don't remember my 1999 burning oil but am seeing reports of that. Is it common? Forgive me if this has been discussed a milion times over - I'll search the forum.

  • I know i won't go to the dealer to get the inspection, they'll just take advantage of me. Unless maybe i should since i am so close to my warranty ending??? I am not sure if my trooper had the 30,000 mile tune-up, so i'll probably find a good place to do most of that, i.e. the fluids as you all say, and have them do the spark plugs too, since my experience has been bad working with hard to get out ones. Hopefully they would see a problem in the the inspection they have to do.

    Not familiar with the soup to nuts the "CAT" and the "IMG" things??
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Glad to hear another Trooper might be in your future.

    Yes, 1998 was first model year for Torque on Demand (TOD) and the bigger - 215hp 230 ft-lbs 3.5L V6 - engine.

    One thing to know about the 1998, and I think 1999, Troopers is the powertrain combinations. Manual transmission in '98 & '99 means shift-on-fly, non-TOD 4WD. The TOD was part of an optional package - I think termed Performance Package. So some automatic trans Troopers in '98 & '99 are shift-on-fly 4WD, and some are TOD. Just something to be aware of.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    IIRC the 2002s had AT w/SOTF available in the S trim level.

  • calviniicalvinii Posts: 4
    Since day one my '99 has had a ticking noise (w/ or w/out TOD engaged) that the seems to be located either in the center of the dash or in the console. Sound is similar to older model cars spedo cable needing lubricating. Dealer has replaced the fan motor and accelerator linkage under warranty, but to no avail. Before the ’99 I had a ’96 which didn’t make this noise. Since the ’96 didn’t have TOD I’m starting to believe it’s related to this system. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thx
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