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Isuzu Trooper



  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    I could get by with the rear end not being repaired at all, all the doors work fine. Amazingly the spare tire was not touched! The front will need to be repaired as I cannot even open the hood as it is. The air bags will also need replaced to make my wife happy about safety. Between the front end and the airbags alone might be enough to total it for the insurance people.
    Has any of you got suggestions on how to get more money in an insurance settlement when they total your car?
    Anyone want my dear old Trooper as is for the amount the insurance company lets me buy it back?
    1995 Trooper-S with power package
    OME suspension, still drives straight
    tick free engine running smooth and strong added for better towing power.
    One owner etc...
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    boxtrooper - so sorry to hear about what happened... I'm glad that everyone is fine SO FAR but please take breakor's advice seriously and go with the rest of your family to a doctor for a checkup ASAP! 0-30MPH impact is no child's play - it must have been horrible :-(

    It will truly suck not having you around these forums but I think you should look at other vehicles as there are many more safer (and just as dependable) choices out there.

    Honestly (completely honestly), money should not be an object in this case. I would make the Volvo b@st@rd and his/her insurance company pay for assaulting me and my kids - no mercy. It would be enough for getting a new something and buying the dune buggy back for sure...
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    Has any of you got suggestions on how to get more money in an insurance settlement when they total your car?

    In these types of situations, your car value is irrelevant. Having kids in the car that gets totaled will usually get you the maximum medical coverage amount of the person at fault (medical bills, pain and suffering, lost work and productivity time, etc.) You also have an option of going after personal assets of that person if they were under/uninsured.

    Consider getting a lawyer if the co. is not cooperating. Quite often, the "threat" of doing so will make them quite receptive to your needs. Don't rush, don't sign anything, and most importantly, make sure that everyone is or will be OK.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,958
    If you do decide to sell it, try elsewhere. No buying and selling on Town Hall please.

    And I like Breakor & Cracovian's advice, especially the part about making sure everyone is "healthy" and not just "sore."

    Steve, Host
  • schulhofschulhof Posts: 71
    My '96 Trooper with 127k miles has been parted with in favor of an '03 Honda Pilot.

    To the Troopers credit it had no signs of impending problems, was in excellent overall shape and had not one rattle.

    But the wife was ready and so it went. The Pilot is quieter, softer, more comfortable, seats 8, gets 18 MPG, has a DVD player, 230 HP, yadda-yadda-yadda...

    I will consider myself lucky if in 7 years and 127k miles the Honda fairs as well as the Trooper did. FWIW, we never approached using the 4WD abilities of the Troop' so that was not really an issue on the Pilot.

    The resale/depreciated value of a Trooper is poor, so I think Boxtroopers '95 5 Speed is totaled. The cost of Isuzu parts/repairs is not low...

    Troop' on all. Best of luck with your Troopers - you won't need it.

    Oh, now for the question you all were waiting for....Trade in value:

    '96 Trooper S PEP
    127k miles
    New(er) brakes
    Old(er) tires
    A few door dings and scratches
    Generally outstanding condition:


    That was with Pilot at MSRP!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Mine dropped from 1Q every 1K to about 1Q ever 1500-2500miles with Mobile 1, it helps.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    2000+ Troopers got Grade Logic on the ATs.

  • While I was looking for my Trooper in Jan 2003, saw a brand new 2002 Trooper S with 5 Speed on a dealer's lot in Denver - it was already sold. Had around 15 miles on speedo.

    So, a few were imported... but it was the only 2002 5 speed that I saw during my seach over the course of a couple of months.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    As Mike mentioned, the TOD transfer case uses ATF. The regular transfer case that comes with manual transmission models uses motor oil.

    The way the owners manual is written, it is easy to confuse which transfer case they are talking about.
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    Hey, another opinion please: How hard would it be, and how well would it work,
    A.) to buy a relatively inexpensive 2wd Trooper and install my 1995 front drive and transfer case?
    B.) to buy a relatively inexpensive 4wd non-TOD Trooper and install my 1995 manual 5 speed transmission?
    What feedback does the engine get from the transmission?
    Thank You
  • peterismepeterisme Posts: 68
    I got the same size as the original Bridgestone (245 70 16?) I think they are good. I have had 10 k miles on them, they are very reliable and never had any trouble. I never had never performance/premier tires, so I cannot compare Yokohama to them. But if you consider the cost vs. utilization, they are pretty good deals.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I would buy a 4wd vehicle off the shelf, if you can't find a trooper how about a 96/97 Land Cruiser. Doesn't seem worth the effort.
  • chymerchymer Posts: 7
    I'm hoping someone can help my father out with a transmission problem on his 1998 Trooper. He took it to an Isuzu dealership for the 80K maintenance, which, according to the manual, included draining and flushing the transmission fluid and replacing the filter. The dealership claimed they didn't do the usual "dropping of the pan", draining the fluid or replacing the filter. They would do a "power flush" which would do the same thing for less money. My dad agreed to this service since they refused to do the recommended way. Now, a couple thousand miles later, his transmission was starting to slip in the higher gears. Prior to this service, he was having no problems at all. He took the Trooper to the dealership that did the flushing to have them check the transmission fluid level. They claimed the fluid was fine. The service tech took a ride with my father to check out the problem. He claimed he couldn't pin-point the problem or even guess at what could be wrong without tearing the transmission apart. My father agreed, unfortunately. It took them two days to even look at it, never returning my father's calls. Finally, they called and said it would be $3000 to fix it. He almost had a heart attack. He questioned the whole deal and they did come down about $400. My father felt they had him by the...teeth, so he agreed to let them do the work. He has talked to people about this and has learned that this flushing process actually destroys your transmission. We feel that this dealership is purposely using this method knowing that they will be replacing the transmission shortly after. Does anyone know about Power Flushing the Transmission and/or has anyone had to replace their transmission at 84K miles? I really want to help my dad, so any info will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    You can find controversy about any technique, but power flushing a transmission is a well accepted technique to more completely replace the tranny fluid. I had mine done.

    There is no filter on the transmission.

    I'm sorry about your trouble. It is a shocking amount of money.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Is about right for the AT.

    I had mine power flushed at 50K miles, now at 55K no problems yet. My milage went up about 3mpg after that.

  • troop2shostroop2shos Posts: 235
    Technically, a tranny flush is not a power flush nor is it a back flush - the torque converter does all the work. The procedure should really be called a full fluid exchange. This has been a long-standing practice accepted & recommended by Ford, GM, & others. I've had this flush done for many years every 30k without any problems.
    I also flush my power steering fluid as well - especially to help save the ZF rack in my V8 SHO.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The place I used actually had a pump, it didn't use the TC.

  • breakorbreakor Posts: 398
    2wd to 4wd conversions sound good. However in practice they are never that simple. You will likely have to replace just about every front end suspension component and maybe some rear end parts. For example oftentimes the shocks are different length (even on the rear), the rear driveshaft is different, even the brake lines can be longer on a higher riding more flexible 4 wd. Even the gear ratios are oftentimes different on 2wd vs. 4wd models.

    As to adding your 5spd to a non-TOD equipped Trooper, are you sure the transfer case is the same? If not you will have to move that and the computer. Other stuff could also be different here too. For example, IIRC on the 2000 Troopers the exhaust pipes are different in manual vs. AT equipped Troopers. I think it would be much easier and cheaper to move the damaged sheet metal from 1 Trooper to another. There should be no real suprises here and you would have a vehicle with known mechanicals.

    Do yourself a favor and drive a newer AT Trooper. This was my first AT vehicle ever. I have no desire to go back to manual shifting. So maybe you too can be converted.

    Bottom line, you sound like you may love your damaged Trooper more than you pocketbook. Be careful.
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    That's what the appraiser from the insurance company told me. When any airbag goes off in a Trooper, all the sensors and electronics are to be changed together, there are 3 sensors at $600 each and then two airbags at $600 each and then the pasenger side aibag ripped the dash for another $1000+ and add $1000 labor to install the entire new airbag system... so just for airbags $5000!!!
    Then the front end was new radiator and A/C condensor and all the support stuff plus hood and left fender and bumper etc.. for $3500.
    Last there's the rear end where the big Volvo died, that bow in the left rear quarter and a new bumper and some minor body work the the bottom hing edge of the big door was only $2000 or so.
    I have a initial offer of $5300 for my Trooper as a total loss payment. I have submitted copies of 1995 5 speed Troopers selling for $7100 and $7990 for comparison to ask for a bigger payment. I will also ask to hold my old Trooper until the new one is purchased and I take delivery just in case I want to swap tires (nearly new Dueler Revo's) or seats or floor mats etc...
    My runs great drives straght 1995 Trooper is done for, maybe it will become a high power dune buggy for someone. Or maybe it will become a junk yard mule.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    How much could you purchase the vehicle back for?

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