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Isuzu Trooper

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My place is in Caroga Lake, NY (it's in the southern portion) I'd love to get a trail ride going but most of the places I've found are private. I'm up there 2x a month in the winter, and 3x a month May->Sep.

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hey if any of you are on AOL IM or Yahoo! You can IM me if you want. My user ID is paisan12. Anyone else on IM or Yahoo?

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    Paisan, you mentioned that your tire pressure was 37-38psi -- isn't that quite high? Wasn't high tire pressure one of the contributing reasons for the Firestone Tire failures that caused the Ford Explorer rollovers?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Manual says 30f 35r TP. I'm gonna actually drop the f down to 33psi.

    The problem with the Firstones was actually low Tire Pressure:

    Firestone told Ford that they should be set @ 30psi, Ford posted on the pillar 23 or 25psi.

    The problem is this:

    Lower PSI = Softer tires, better ride, wider track on pavement, higher friction, higher heat

    Higher Heat = more wear and tear on the tires, and eventual tread separation.

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • I live in Saratoga Springs, about 45 min away. I agree, most trails are private, was hoping you might know of some good public ones.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Cool, I shoot over there quite a bit. I'm sure if we put our heads together we can come up with some trails.

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Found some good stuff @ http://overlander.com. I really like the OME shocks/springs idea, and the FET Landmaster 216s look really nice to mount on my Nudge Bar. Also if I could afford it, the cross drilled rotors and pads look outstanding, but I can't justify $1000 in brakes!

    -mike
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    Regarding the Recall for 2000 Trooper, I would like to visually compare the 1999 versus the 2000 Trooper to see if the fuel lines and protection are similar. I would think that the 1998 - 2001 are basically the same.
  • I am beginning to have some serious doubts about my trooper. I worry about my wife trying to escape the fuel leak after having her legs crushed (see crash test). Is anyone else having serious concern about this? They may claim to have a fix for all these various leaks, but i now have a growing fear about the inherent danger of the truck.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Since, there hasn't been 1 single instance of either the legs crushing, nor the fuel leak, in real world crashes. Just as in '96 to date, there haven't been any rollovers in the situation that CR tested and nixed the Trooper for.

    Somone on here posted a 40mph T-Bone collision, which totalled their trooper, but left them unscathed.

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I have some concerns. But the more I research it the better I feel. I looked at the crash test data regarding. The Trooper actually held together quite well. The passenger compartment did not get too out of shape. This means that your chances of living are very good. The leg injury is not ideal, but compared to other results the trooper wasn't the worst. The footwell was the only area to get compromised in the collision. This seems to be directly related to a lack of any front bumper. The JGC had a similar problem where the front wheel crushes the footwell too.

    I am concerned about the fuel line leak in the 1998-1999. I have emailed NHTSA about trying to get the 1999 evaluated. Isuzu claims the 1998-1999 models don't have the same fuel line routing, which I don't completely believe. The 1998 Jackaroo crash test link didn't show any problems with a fuel line link. After scouring the crash test data I do feel better. Not many crashes result in fire, so even if you hit a stationary object offset on the drivers side, and after the crash fuel spills out, I am not that worried. I am concerned that Isuzu is not fixing the 1998-1999 models, I would like to see more from them.

    It is possible the 1998-1999 models are different. For example, the 1995 models scored extremely poorly in crash tests, this was then greatly improved in 1997? Even though the skin hasn't changed the insides may have.
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    Yes, it would be nice to know how the structure of the 1998-1999 Troopers differ from the 2000-2001. Since the Trooper, like all SUVs, have no effective bumper, I wonder if a nudge bar like paisan has would help? I would think it would help both in the area of providing initial protection for the fuel line and also prevent intrusion into the driver and passenger compartments.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    from Australia are heralded as adding protection from collisions with kangaroos and other wildlife. I would think that adding a steel bumper mounted to the frame would definitely protect the footwell. I don't know how it would effect the overall structural integrity though. I am most likely going to add one for winching capabilities, not safety, but it could be a possible bonus. I am looking at getting one on for next summers vacation so I won't have any results to post soon.
  • Mike, at vmag.com...the Trooper portion of the forum, there have been a couple of uncomplimentary things said about overlander. Rude people and slow service as well as something about being charged for an order that took forever to arrive, I believe.

    On the plus side, I've called them a couple of times and been treated nothing but great!

    I also ordered a K&N air filter from them and got it in four days, exactly as promised.

    This is not to say that overlander is bad. From my experience I'd order from them again. After all, you can't please everyone and the other two people may have gotten someone who either didn't care or isn't employed by overlander anymore.

    The Catz 216's are indeed cool and I'd love to have them but I don't need their ultimate off-road capability and with a family I have to watch the $ a bit more:) so I'm going to have to stick with some Hellas from susquehanna and a Waag center guard for around $250 total. I'll be the first to admit, though, that the ECB bar and the Landmasters are the HOT ticket!

    -Dave
  • Count me in as another Trooper owner who isnt the least bit concerned by the recall or "crash results". I'm checking the manufacture date of mine as well as talking to the dealer about it at my first oil change in 500 mi.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I spoke to a rep at FET the manufacturer, so I'm not sure of overlander.com's reps yet. I luckily am w/o family, but a ton of school debt, so I'll have to hold off on the 216s for a bit. Had WAAG had their bar before I got my ECB I would have probably gotten theirs, but I called around all of June 2000 and no one had anything but a Big Wrap around one.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Has anyone had problems on cold (below freezing) days opening their moonroof? On my trip upstate, I had problems opening it to vent out the car on the way upstate NY. It seemed like the rubber seal was "sticking" I'm gonna silicone the seal and see what happens next time it's cold.

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • Mike,
    Did you ever get your mirrors fixed?
    They replaced mine, still vibrates, but was told its normal.
    Had a noise coming from behind the dash on cold mornings. Seems the fuel lines would vibrate on cold days, they fixed that. Seems more Troopers have the same problem. Had exhaust vibration, the replaced the muffler, but still does it when its cold. Was told this is a heat shield and is norm. Any comments? I might need to call the 800# and ask Isuzu for a list of what is norm for this flagship vehicle.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well my mirror is now flush against the vehicle (the black triangle piece) and I drove a # of other Troopers @ 85mph, same slight vibration. I also drove a Landcruiser, and a Mitsubishi Montero, same slight vibration. So I'm satisfied that the mirrors are normal for this type of vehicle.

    The fluttering some of us pinned down to the edges of the OEM bug guard. One of my corners was torn off, so I ripped the other one off and now no more fluttering noise.

    The heat shield can be tightened if it vibrates that much, but I haven't had any problems with mine.

    Definitely try a different dealer, I found that to be the easiest fix. The new dealer is quite caring and are excellent.

    If you do call Isuzu, immediately ask for a supervisor, because the first level phone people are not of the highest quality!

    -mike
    http://www.iace.com/ia/trooper
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I have contacted them several times with product questions. Although I have never bought anything, yet, they have always responded promptly and informative to any email I send them.
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