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Isuzu Trooper

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  • hguyhguy Posts: 5
    Been reading Your posts for couple months now-excellent job!I have to admit that it gave me little push to go and check out how the Troopers really are. Yesterday I took the whole family,and we test drove 2001 S- it was nice but couple of things bothered me. There was petty hard pull to the right @ highway speeds. Also over 60 mph there was noticeable wheel shimmey.Sales guy said it was because truck wasn't pdi'd yet. Also the front seat leg room was kind of tight-is the LS model any better(having power seats)?How is the Isuzu service?Can I count that they really will be there for me 9 years from now?I leave in CT ,and here we have few Isuzu dealers. Again -excellent job guys!Thanks!
  • 99trooper99trooper Posts: 87
    There should be no pulling and no shimmy at speed. I've owned a 98 trooper and now a 99 and neither one is anything but rock solid...
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    If it is pulling to the right, I would test drive another one.

    Regarding "front seat leg room was kind of tight", I found the Trooper to be spacious. If you want to see what has really tight front seat leg room, take a test drive in a Toyota 4-Runner or a Ford Explorer = you'll find the Trooper is much roomier. When I test drove the 4-Runner, my left leg rubbed the left door panel which I found unconfortable.
  • cwmosercwmoser Posts: 227
    I owned a 1989 Trooper for about 6 years. It was a tough vehicle. Generally, the 4cy are more reliable than the 6cy. Don't expect a lot of power but it is reasonable. A lot of these older Troopers have not been given the service they really need and I would check to insure you have good compression in all 4 cylinders - i.e. forget the 6 cylinder models. If you purchase one, by all means be diligent in the following:

    1-) adjust the valves every 15,000 miles - it does not cost that much to have a mechanic adjust them for you - I paid about $50.00. I neglected this and had to have a valve job ($800.00).

    2-) One cylinder, I believe #2, is prone to overheating and cracking the intake manifold. The preventative is always make sure you have plenty of coolant. A regular check will prevent you from this problem.

    Older model troopers have a lot of personality and I have heard numerous cases where they have over 200,000 miles on them.

    Regarding where to find one, check local dealers and also EBAY. A better purchase might be to pick up an older version of the newer trooper - say a 1993-1995 - same body as the 2001's and looks closer to the newer troopers than the pre 1991 models. Again, there are several examples on EBAY. I am thinking of getting my son one of the 1993-1996 Troopers when he turns 16. I like the older pre 1991 models, but I like the newer models as they are really a better vehicle in may ways.
  • grucelagrucela Posts: 19
    I HAVE A 86. GREAT TRUCK, HAD A VALVE JOB DONE, NEW BREAKS. THE A/C COMPRESSOR FROZE SO IT NEEDS A NEW ONE, PAINT IS GOOD NO RUST, THE HOOD IS FADED A BIT. THE TRUCK RIDES GREAT AND I USE IT FOR WORK EACH DAY. HAVE A KID ON THE WAY, SO I NEED TO GET RID OF THE OLDER TROOPER. HAVE A 2000 ALSO. ITS A 2.3, 5-SPEED. RUNS GREAT. I TAKE
    2-4HR TRIPS WITH WORK TRAVEL AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. GOOD TIRES AND RIMS. INTERIOR HAS BEEN REALY CARED FOR. IN FACT THE BACK SEATS LOOK BRAND NEW.
    I'M ASKING $2300. LET ME KNOW. I LIVE IN NORTH AUGUSTA, SC. GRUCELA@YAHOO.COM
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,919
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  • breakorbreakor Posts: 398
    Isuzu dealer service is probably typical. By that I mean you get good techs a few bad techs and no doubt a few service writers trying to sell you everything under the sun. I think what sets Isuzu apart is the very low occurrence of unscheduled visits. The point being you may not have to visit a dealer (or an independent garage for that matter) for a problem. However, should a warranty issue arrive my guess is that a dealer will be there for you. I think the only real service question is whether or not the dealer's sign might some day read GM rather than Isuzu.
    (Note: The question of who would want a GM built "Trooper" is a separate issue.)

    In any event you should always be able to get work done elsewhere as Isuzus are not hard to work on from what I have seen/heard.
  • erinsquarederinsquared Posts: 178
    Installed my OME rear springs this weekend. Much better ride overall. Rear ride height raised about 1 inch & does not bottom out even on rough roads with just myself in the vehicle. Cranked the torsion bars a little to raise the front about an inch. The ride is just as smooth as with the factory springs, but I do not hit the bump stops over bumps which prevents the "jar-to-the-spine" that was happening before. These spring settings are really what Isuzu should put in as stock. I bounced up & down on the rear bumper and was able to get it to slightly hit the bump stops, so I guess loading down the back will still cause hitting the progressive bump stops. OME may have felt higher spring rates would compromise the unloaded ride.

    Other suspension mod to my Trooper: front and rear polyurethane sway bar bushings, Rancho RS9000s.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I believe they are progressive rate springs, in that they will get stiffer with higher load. I haven't noticed much hitting of the bump stops with them, even loaded down.

    -mike
  • I looking for an OEM style roof rack for my 2001 Trooper S. I saw some that I liked on www.4x4mountainsport.com but there were no details on where they came from. Why aren't they are a dealer option in the US? Is it because of high center of gravity/roll over concerns?
  • bsmart1bsmart1 Posts: 377
    The older Troopers weren't without some quirks as mentioned already by others. I have a 88' Trooper that I bought new and now have 120,000+ miles on it. Its a very durable vehicle and has had very few maintenance problems over the years. It is still going strong, being driven every day. I would echo what was said about the 4 cylinder units vs. the 6 cylinder built by GM. Isuzu used the same engine that was put in the S-10 and Blazer back in 88-91. Not the best idea by ISUZU at the time. The 4 cylinder was built in JAPAN and is true Isuzu quality. They do require routine maintenance as mentioned already but you're not likely to go wrong if you can pick up an 88-91 model that has the 2.6L 4 cylinder engine in it. They had true multi-port EFI those years and were real workhorses!

    Trooper sighting. If you want to see a newer Trooper in action, check out the movie THE PLEDGE, with Jack Nicholson. Lot's of Trooper action in this film, and the story ain't half bad either.
    Happy Trooping !! ;-)
  • maccmacc Posts: 11
    I have a 1999 5 speed Manual transmission Trooper with 30K miles. It suddenly developed problems maintaining idle speed and stalls out whenever your foot is off the gas pedal. This problem is somewhat intermittent - might stall one trip and be okay the next time out. Has anybody experienced this? Any ideas what to check?
    Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Sounds like the classic intake manifold gasket problem. Any dealer will fix that under warranty w/o a problem. Seems common in about 20% of the Trucks.

    -mike
  • kw9kw9 Posts: 13
    I have a 93 Trooper with 30,000 miles. Every so often the transmission will start off in 3rd(?) gear and the check transmission light will come on and flash. If I shift manually it works just fine (which suggests the transmission is fine). If I shut the car off and restart everything goes back to normal. It doesn't happen often but my wife won't drive the trooper because she thinks it's unsafe as this has happened to her when she was trying to pull out into traffic. My garage says Isuzu told them it has something to do with the transmission ground, they added one but it still happens. Anyone experience similar problems? Any suggestion on how to fix? Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Do you have a winter mode on your tranny? I'm not sure if they had them back then, but on later models there is a "winter mode" which you can engage to start the truck in 3rd gear so as to not slip the tires in the snow. Perhaps this switch is intermittently being shorted out or being depressed, or being somehowengaged, thereby starting you in 3rd gear. Next time it happens, see if it kicks out when you hit 21mph. The winter mode kicks out @ 21mph and will shift normally after that, if it does kick off at 21mph for you, I'd say the winter mode switch is suspect.

    -mike
  • kw9kw9 Posts: 13
    Paisan - I do have winter mode and that is what it feels like is happening. I will check to see what happens at 21 mph and let you know. Thanks for the suggestion.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I've heard the same simptoms from others, so it could be defective switches... Check it out, hope it helps.

    -mike
  • tntmythtntmyth Posts: 70
    I don't believe it but, when I went to Maroone Isuzu for my alignment, an Isuzu master service consultant told me that he recently heard that Isuzu is keeping the existing Trooper for 4 more years, mainly because it has no problems, etc. I told him that I heard that 2002 was the last year. He said he heard different from Isuzu. So i'm throwing it out here on the forum for what it's worth. BTW, this Isuzu dealership has 3 Master Isuzu Technicians as well. I am hoping they are right about the Trooper.

    Is there an address where we can send a letter to Isuzu to voice our opinion? I was watching TV where they were about to cancel the Mustang due to lackluster sales back in the 1980's They received thousands of letters from Mustang fans. Most were very angry letters asking Ford "how stupid could they be?". So Ford, based on the quantity of letters received, decided to continue with the Mustang, designed a new model, etc. Just proves that public opinion can make a difference. Have any of you Trooper fans sent in any letters to Isuzu?
  • mtrionfomtrionfo Posts: 20
    kw9 - Sounds like your auto trans is going into failsafe mode. (It's unlikely that the Check Trans light would be flashing if the problem was limited to a faulty winter mode switch.) More likely is that the TCM (trans control module) is disconnecting itself from shift control because it detects a circuit problem.

    Failsafe mode allows the truck to be driven when there is a problem with the auto trans by starting out in 3rd gear and staying there. However, repeatedly starting out in 3rd gear can overheat the trans, so instead manually shift into "L" to start out, then shift up.

    What you need to do is have either your regular mechanic or an Isuzu dealer connect a diagnostic reader to the TCM to retrieve the trouble code stored there. Then get a few estimates for the repair, as it will likely be expensive.

    Good luck, Marty
    95 Trooper LS
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well they will be producing the trooper (Bighorn and Jackaroo) for non-North American Markets for the forseeable future, so it is possible that they could continue to sell it here as well. Let's hope for the best, although it's sales will only stagger even more as other makes and models catch up to the trooper in comfort and size and features. If GM wasn't the puppeteer, the Trooper could kick some major butt with a few tweeks, but GM doesn't want it cutting into it's cash cow, the GMC SUVs...

    -mike
  • beer47beer47 Posts: 185
    On vacation last week. Went from Central Jersey up to Lake Placid, NY. Averaged 18.75 mpg w/the AC on the whole time. Then went from Lake Placid to Niagra Falls; averaged 19.0 mpg.
    From the Falls back to NJ through the Poconos(up and down) averaged 18.5 mpg. The mean mpg seems to be 18.75 for the trip overall. Not too bad considering I onlt get in the 16's running around NJ, NY, and Philly for work. Truck ran great, but I could have used a little more leg room as has been mentioned here before. You do not notice it much unless you are on a long haul. The Adirondack's were truly beautiful, I recommend highly to other Trooper folks!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Cool, my trooper lives up there for the summer! :) I have a place in the lower Dacks. Love taking my Trooper up the NYS T-way, maybe I beeped to you on my way up last weekend? :)

    -mike
  • How many of you actually wave to other Trooper owners when you pass them on the highway? I know I have occasionally.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Honk and wave, although I don't think I've ran into anyone here yet! :)

    -mike
  • arktrooper1arktrooper1 Posts: 101
    yes! - i actually honk and wave on occaison, although this area is made up of several small towns in the 15,000 / 45,000 population range so i've done the honk and wave to most of the trooper owners in the area and many of them will honk and wave first - this part of arkansas is fairly prosperous so there are more "esoteric" vehicles than normal for an area this size, ie. bmw "8-series" coupes, land rover disco's, range rovers, half a dozen hummers, a few rr's, supercharged jags, etc. - i've noticed them honking at each other as well! - the trooper has GOT to be one of the least, if not the least expensive "esoteric" vehicle around here though:)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Good to see you back in the swing of things here. We all got worried for a few months. Maybe you can make it to Uwharrie in Oct. Off-road and camping weekend of columbus day.

    -mike
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,919
    Saw the following post about brush bars and though you'd be interested:

    bryancos "How to keep from hitting deer?" Jul 31, 2001 12:36pm

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  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    Very interesting, gotta love this Town Hall thing. I'm always learning something on here!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,919
    yeah, me too :-)

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