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Isuzu Trooper

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  • i30g20i30g20 Posts: 24
    Thanks for all the comments on limited regarding new vs used. I believe I may just go the used route if I cannot work a reasonable deal. I agree with keeping them forever. I kept my 1986 model till 212k and now have 160k on my 92. If I can get the Lim coupled with the fact that the Trooper will be no more; I'm sure I'll put more than 200k on it also. Also cwmoser, your post re 26k+3k tradein being a great price... I was just wondering was there $5000 in incentives in 1999?. If there was, then I agree; but if there wasn't, then should be able to get one for your 29k - 5k incentives or 24k? (or 25k if they have gone up in price). Hey, cdpar5in2 did you get your Limited?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    manufacturers are required to supply them for 10 years after manufacture. These trucks will still be available outside the US after 02, so it shouldn't be too hard. Also, they probably won't need too many parts :)

    -mike
  • Just wondering what brand batteries were installed in new Troopers at the factory. Mine just died and I'm trying to figure out if it was the original or not. It was a Champion, by the way.
  • I quickly overcame my fear of the end of the Trooper as we know it and picked up a totally loaded Silver Limited this afternoon. As previously reported the price was 26,680, but I did not mention itdid not include Pa's ridiculous tax of 7%. It still seem like a great deal. I cannot believe I considered a Grand Cherokee,which would have been $34000 and falling apart in 40000 miles!

    The dealer told me about the plans for the Trooper and its not pretty. After next year Isuzu will be putting the Trooper name on a refined GM Envoy that will have a third seat. For anyone who loves Troopers, this should make the last of the real ones a valuable commidity. However it will be a long wait for mine, because at 12,000 miles/year it will be a long time to 200000 miles!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Be sure to check out http://isuzu-suvs.com for info. Where in PA? We are having a trail ride Sept 15 in NJ.


    -mike

  • i30g20i30g20 Posts: 24
    Found on Isuzu-dealers.com web site if you do a Limited search across the country the best price for Lim is $24,999 in Fl. You may be able to use this info for those looking to get a limited to negotitiate a real good deal.
  • Just completed a 1100 mile trip in the new trooper this weekend - Alabama to West Virginia and back. Return trip had the trooper loaded to the hilt - rear seats folded forward and the back end stuffed. Great trip. Observations - plenty of engine and it loves gasoline - best highway average was 17 mpg - worst was 15 MPG - we were cruising though - sometimes exceeding 80 mph - trooper very stable at speed - I absolutely love driving this thing. However, the thing corners like an aircraft carrier - could get the tires to howl on back country roads - it does get your attention - the suspension is the culprit - but I plan to leave it alone - but someday we may add a thing or two - Gas shocks might just do it. The newly installed box ( this is an LS ) with the altimeter, compass and temp sensor - was cool - but I plan to relocate that temp sensor - its easy to spot - mounted high and forward of the radiator on the drivers side. - but it is mounted out of the airflow generated by the engine cooling fan - right underneath the upper lip of the grill where heat builds up fast when stopped - poor location compared to other vehicles that have this feature - so anyone out there know how to remove that plastic nose grill? - there is a couple of strange looking tabs that secure the grilI up high - I'm affraid I could break these by not knowing what I'm doing . Also, I expect from the dealer here in Huntsville, Al that you could buy a Limited 4X4 for $26,500 - not counting tax (your state sales tax) - or dock fee. If interested let me know.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Glad you like it. I get about 18mpg @ 80-90mph on the freeway. Maybe my K&N is helping a bit, also I have 27K miles on it. The Gas shocks will make a world of difference I know they did for me.

    -mike
  • I just installed Rancho 9000 shocks on my 99 Trooper and they make a HUGE difference. They have 6 settings and I stay at either the middle setting or one softer..I waited a year and a half to do mine, should have done them right away.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I cranked mine up to 5 this weekend for some off-roading. Lot's of fun. Drove over a few downed trees even!

    -mike
  • Can you give me some more details on the 9/15 trail ride in NJ?

    cdpar5in2 if you are in western PA and are interested in the NJ trailride let me know.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Here is a link to another post I made


    http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75474


    Basically going to be a relatively easy trail ride Sept 15th in the Pine Barrens of NJ. Between Philly and A/C is the area known as the Pine Barrens. It's shaping up to have anywhere from 10-20 Isuzus, and possibly 20+ Subies.


    -mike

  • Anyone have any advice?..Rancho says "put to firmest" setting for heavy offroad use, but I would think that that would limit the wheels ability in soft or slippery conditions? Would softer be better in some offroad situations?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Harder is better for off-roading, if the shocks are nice and stiff, you are more likely to keep your traction, whereas if it's soft you'll be slipping all over. I'm sure there are some situations where you would want them to be softer, but in general off-roading with them stiffer = better.

    -mike
  • Can't do the trail ride, but thanks for asking.

    On another topic, my new trooper is loaded but does not have running boards. The dealer says to install standard boards will run $510 for everything, including labor. Any clue if this is a good price? Is there a market for running boards outside of the dealers?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Matt at Independent4x.com sells similar items, they aren't running boards per say. They are actually side-step/boulder bars. These boulder bars are attached to the frame and can be used to protect the body from damage as well as jacking point. I think his run for around $300 or $330.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    We are also doing a pre-run the weekend of sept 8 or 9th if interested.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That's cause 99% of the dealers are not selling Isuzus as their major brand. They are either selling higher end cars, and use Isuzu to "keep the sale" rather than have someone walk out, or are selling other brands and just carry the Isuzu logo cause it's cheap to have as a vehicle.

    -mike
  • breakorbreakor Posts: 398
    IIRC, on my 99 to get the grille off you push down on the tab on the top of the funky plastic brackets. Then the grille will slide out. The trick is that sometimes the brackets stick to the removed grille, sometimes they stay in place on the vehicle and sometimes they fly away to parts unknown. Try not to let the latter happen.

    To reinstall you can put the brackets on the grille and then pop the grille/brackets back into the housing. Or, for me it seemed much easier to put the brackets back in the housing and then pop the grille into the brackets/housing.

    I am sure I have made it sound more complicated than it is. Just don't use too much force and you will be fine.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm updating http://isuzu-suvs.com as we speak...


    -mike

  • I ordered the Isuzu side steps from the ST Charles Isuzu for $317 in May, go to their web site for phone number. I installed them myself without drilling or lifting the Trooper in less than an hour. They can sell you the running boards also. http://www.stcharlesauto.com/
  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    Hey Mike, did Conman ever send you the pic of the Lund Bug guard? also, that new pic of Big Swede going over the rocks is awsome. Really shows the travel on these things, looks like they got 265/75's on that without a problem. I noticed the rear mudflap is missing though.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I think it's still back-ordered til mid Aug.

    -mike
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    I preemptively took the rear mudflaps off before going on the trails at Moab, they are 'spensive to replace...would've taken the fronts off too, but was not able to, short of drilling out the screws. Hit 'em a couple of times, but made it without damage. :-)

    As you can see from that picture on Mikes website, the 265s are no problem whatsoever - even with that extreme articulation, no rubbing at all!

    Also of interest in that picture (other than Bruce Anderson running for his life) is that I am on the very edge of a precipice...the reason Bruce is running forward of me is that the only other escape is down, WAY down! Man, Moab was fun!

    sdc2 aka BigSwede
  • Appreciate the input on the removal of the forward grill - give it a shot this weekend. Also Billstein is running a sale price on gas shocks = $39.95 ea - normally $65 about the same as the Rancho pricing I have found - not adjustable - but thats not a big issue to me - I just want to flatten the sucker out in the turns and limit the nose pitch during braking - also JC Whitney has Gabriel Gas shocks for $24.00. Also has anybody tried the poly bushing upgrade mentioned in the How to Upgrade of Isuzu-suv.com. Thanks
  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    We have the same trucks except mine is White. You don't see many Black W/Performance pkg. out here.
    Your tires appear to be Pirelli Scorps, how many miles have you put on them, and how are they wearing. It looks like you added a couple of turns to the T-Bars too, It looks very well balanced. That rock ride is pretty impressive. Moab looked like a blast!
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Ah, you have the winter stealth-mobile...at least it would be in Minnesnowta :-)

    The black helps the ice/snow melt off faster, which sound weird after all the 90+ days we have had this summer. The real reason I ended up with black is because it was the only PP left without a moonroof in the surrounding 5-state area. I like it, though. Not a liability to have black vehicles up here, very common.

    Haven't noticed any unusual wear on the Scorps, but I only have about 8K miles on 'em. I believe the warranty was 40K. Sears has been unable to quite balance them correctly, though...not sure if the tires are to blame or just incompetent service.

    The AT Scorps did great in Moab, grippier than mud tires on the sandstone bedrock. You get AMAZING traction out there, and it was a blast. I definitely will be returning.
  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    Maybe you should look into this balancing process. When it becomes time for new shoes I'm going to try it. http://www.gsp9700.com/
    How bout them Vikings....looked good last week!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm planning on doing Moab next year as well.

    -mike
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