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Isuzu Trooper

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  • A friend of mine recently had a transmission cooler installed on his Honda Rodeo. It was a bright aluminum color - almost white - and it is directly behind the grill. The rest of the stuff behind the grill is black. So there is a great view white on black of a transmission cooler when you see the front of his Honda. You can see him coming a half mile away. His A/C has suffered a little from the transmission cooler getting first dibs on the cool air.
    I think it is worth asking for a black transmission cooler or getting it mounted somewhere out of site. By the way, Isuzu says the Trooper will tow all 5000 lbs. without any additional cooler. My buddy has a 3.2L in his Honda Rodeo and the automatic transmission, he says that it is a far better tow vehicle than the Jeep Grand Cherokee it replaced. Never overheats.
    I have a 1995 Trooper-S and pulling my 26 foot 4000 lb. boat is not problem, but I have a manual transmission so I can use any gear that does not lug the 3.2L SOHC 175hp engine.
    Please post on how well your Trooper tows that trailer.
  • I have not got them yet but I think the OME rear coil springs would be a help. My Trooper rear end droops an inch or two with the trailer on it.
  • Well, I just spoke with the Isuzu Service Manager at Brown's Buick-Isuzu in Fairfax, VA and he recommends NOT installing an auxillary transmission cooler as long as I stay within the towing limits of the vehicle. He said that they can put it on for me, but that the internal (to the radiator) transmission cooler is designed to handle towed loads up to the 5,000 limit. He said there are some things that can be done to increase that 5,000 limit but since I don't plan to exceed it, I didn't ask him what they would be. He said that I should have the auto trans serviced more frequently than the "normal usage" 30,000 mile interval - as often as 15,000 depending on how many towing miles I rack up. I don't expect to do more than a couple thousand miles a year, so I'll shoot for the service every 20,000 miles.
    Charlie
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yeah never heard of an external tranny cooler put on a trooper either.

    2002 trooper announced. No major changes, just some minor ones:

    1) S model gets privacy glass, inglass antenna, and arm rests
    2) S model loses auto-climate control
    3) Limited gets side tubes
    4) LS gets moonroof and outside temp/trip built into clock
    5) rear cargo accessory outlet and additional in-dash acc. outlet added.
    6) cup holders built into center arm rest in rear seat

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hey all, NJ Pine Barrens pics are up from the Pre-run. Check out http://isuzu-suvs.com/events for the 15th info and pics.


    -mike

  • i wanna get into a trooper 2000 or 2001. i have never bought a used but gotta start playing it smart.

    i know i want a 4wd with leather interior with the wood look dash and with the big sunroof. what can i steal this at? is it just the limited that would carry all these options? or can the S make this happen?

    thanks matt

    am totally leaning towards the 2001. whats the cheapest 2001 new out the door with these options?
    if its just a matter of another 1500k of lost equity i would be willing to do that. i live in san diego if that makes a difference. are the dealers here ready to give the 2001 ones away?

    thankis in advance
    matt
  • so msrp is over 35k at edmunds and carsdirect for 2001 limited 4x4.

    but looks like loaded u can do one for under 29k with gold package. so its like 31500 out the door with everything?

    i couldn't find a used limited on autotrader.com. bunch of 2001 s with cloth for less than 20k. then there are some 2000 ls(my guess is the l stands for limited here) for up to $25900. big jump going from 2000 used $24900 and 2001 $19995.

    am i to stay away from these rentals? i always beat my rentals up. usually on business with free gas(comany pay) and free wear and tear on someone else's vehicle.

    love the trooper look and need to get in new or used bottom at the bottom.

    thanks matt
  • looks like a few got a limited loaded for under 29k. mabe with some hot incentives i can get the 2000k cash back or some crazy 0.0% financing.

    i will look this week at the dealer. anyone know what the current new suv deals are.

    matt
  • To budddddylee - From your requirements you need to buy the Limited. I know the dealer here has two or three he will sell at a big discount. Based on the price I paid for a 2001 LS last month (no trade) - with leather - I would guess he would part with one for $26,500. If interested let me know and I will point you in the right direction. They have a lot of troopers on the lot - and now is the time to buy. Good Luck.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    2000/2001:

    S: No moonroof available, no factory leather, no power folding mirrors, no privacy glass (except rentals), no in glass antenna (except rentals), no arm rests (except rentals), downgraded seats, no stock 6-disk in-dash changer (optional) 2-tone paint.

    LS: Best bargain IMHO, adds power retracting mirros, heated, upgraded power seats, optional Moonroof, no leather, Privacy glass, in-glass antenna, different rims, 6-disc in dash, monotone paint

    Limited: Adds leather, std. moonroof, and overhead multimeter (temp, altitude, barometer, compass)

    I believe that the Limiteds go for around $29K after you take the $4-$6K rebate, LS for around $26-$27K, S for around $22-$24K These are rough #s, but very ball-park conservative. You won't likely find an LS or Limited 2K car around, possibly an S. 2001, you should be able to get any of the 3. They did announce the 2002s on www.isuzu.com, no major changes, except in 2002, the S gets privacy glass, in-glass antenna, arm rests, LS gets moonroof std, outside temp and trip built into the clock, and all get rear acc. outlets.

    I find the LS to be the best deal around. You can always have your dealer add aftermarket leather for around $1200 which is a lot cheaper than the Limited package. Also the prices I quoted above on the LS are with moonroof (no point to buy a Trooper w/o the moonroof)

    -mike
  • Mike,

    Our new 2001 S has one armrest on each front seat. Towards the center. When you said no armrests were you referring to the outside of the seats?

    George
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Guess they added the arm rests in 01 to the S model.

    -mike
  • well..my check engine light had been coming on recently, and took the troop to isuzu...they said it had a lazy o2 sensor and replaced it. I seem to remember reading something about this elsewhere on this board...anyone else had this problem?....:)
  • Got a factory rep demo (titled as new) w/ 5200 miles for under $24k out the door. Saw ad in paper for $13,000 off, emailed them and confirmed price and out the door price. Other than ttl, $299 was only fee. You may be able to find something similar at a high volume dealer.
  • the dealer i went to didn't have any limited's. he said he could locate one for 400$ over invoice but would give me a 4000$ rebate.

    so a 29000$ loaded would be 31000 after taxes and tags and then they apply they 4000k rebate. i can be out the door for 27000$.

    looks to be decent. they guy was a fleet manager and very busy.

    so how can i lowball this guy even more? i can do the 27000$ and be happy. what you all think?

    dude also said all his 2001's already have the privacy glass anyway.
  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    Trooperites, please pray for Mike and anyone in the area, he could be involved in this mess. I think he's close to the towers, judging by what folks at the Subaru Crew are saying.
  • Our hearts should be with Mike and all New York and DC
  • I had no idea Mike was anywhere near the towers..lets hope he and his are all ok..
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I was about 3 blocks away. I walked up to Grand Central station about 4-5miles, and then took a train to NJ, where I wound up getting picked up my dad, but then we couldn't get back into NYC via the bridges to Staten Island, so I had to walk over the bridge to Staten Island, and my dad is in NJ with my truck at his buddy's. Luckily my uncle works one floor above me, and we stuck together with his boss who is a big shot, and we were able to go to a posh club near grand central station for the afternoon. More details later, it was a 12+hr commute home for me.

    -mike
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,778
    We're all glad to hear you're well, Mike.

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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Yes we are! Thanks for checking in mike. I was fearful that our chat yesterday evening would turn out to be the last time I heard from you. Phew!

    Best wishes,

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I think I'm gonna treat myself to an ECB Big Bull Bar, just cause I'm alive!

    -mike
  • Glad to here that you are OK

    John
  • gpm5gpm5 Posts: 785
    Good to hear you're ok, mike. Everyone's thoughts go out to those there.
  • Glad to hear you are okay. The thought did go throught my mind that you might have been in the middle of that. On another positve note, my wife and I had our second child (little girl) yeterday morning at 10:45. What a day for a birthday. Although my wife was born April 19th and my niece on June 12 (OKC bombing and execution of McVeigh). So when she started having contractions yesterday and I got to work and heard about the WTC I knew that she was not having false labor.
  • raydahsraydahs Posts: 449
    Welcome back, let's keep on praying for the people who's lives will be changed forever!
    GTROOP - Congrats!
  • Three blocks was close - Glad your here with us too
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    So far so good. They seem to be doing a bit better than the stock ones. I'm sure I'll notice the difference on the highway more though.

    -mike
  • cobbocobbo Posts: 34
    Okay, I know everything is still hectic and our thoughts and prayers are with the folks in NYC & DC, but I can't help but plop down this entirely meaningless note to let ya'll know that I took T-3 (my 2001 Trooper 4x4 LTD) in for it's 3rd regular service this morning...and they nicely took care of the 3rd oil change & 2nd tire rotation as I passed the 10,650 mile mark. Only problem they weren't able to fix (because they told me it didn't exist!) was a problem I've been having where occasionally when at a light the engine will shift gears & rev up to 1,500 RPM and lunge forward....oh, that and when at speed (45, 50, 60, 70) it's felt for the past week like I'm towing a poorly balanced trailer (even though I've got nothing under tow)...they ran in for a few miles with a TECH 2 plugged in (and some bigwig from Isuzu (one of their trainers I believe)) and nothing came up as wrong, so I guess I've got to give it some time to see if it was something from the tires needing to be rotated or if I've gotta wait for the CE light to come back on....oh well, all of our troubles should be so....

    I am curious, though, if anyone else has come across the lunging thing b/c this is my second experience with it & the last time it ended up with the need to replace the accelerator sensor...until then, my thoughts and prayers are out with everyone & I too am glad to hear that Paisan is safe & still with us....hang in there ya'll...
    -Cobbo
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Your problem could be an ECU update that they have for our engines.

    -mike
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