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Suzuki XL-7

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  • danixdanix Posts: 19
    One of my main complaints with the handling was the bump steer. Coming around a turn, you hit a small bump, and the vehicle changes direction, more or less depending on speed and the size of the bump.

    My brother in law and I agreed that with a stiffer suspension and a supercharger, this would be a killer vehicle - for us. Stock, it's fine for the wives :)

    All kidding aside, I'm still considering one.
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    These are solid if underated vehicles. They are a true SUV with a genuine frame underneath. They have solid if a bit underpowerd drivetrains. The design is proven.
    Go get one.
  • My XL-7 has been excellent so far. This is a solid vehicle and an excellent value. I only have minor complaints (oil filter location and the size of the front arm rests). The XL-7 is now becoming very popular in my area. I've been seeing many of them around the neighborhood.
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    danix. that is not bump steer. That is a live axle and a hard suspension .. Thats where the rear tires will lose contact for a split second and the car will move sideways a tiny bit. Bump steer is when the FRONT suspension is compressed or extended and the suspension geometry causes the tie rod ends to move the wheels closer or furthur causing the wheels to slightly change steering angles..

    Frank
  • The Car Connection featured some updatates for the 2003 XL-7.


    http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5322


    XL-7

    Suzuki's largest sport-ute carries as many as seven passengers on

    three rows of seats in a cabin that stretches about a foot longer

    than the Grand Vitara. Trim designations for 2003 include the base XL-

    7, a well-equipped version for five riders and available in 2WD and

    4WD formats. A second XL-7 model, dubbed "3rd Row Option", increases

    cabin capacity to seven with the third bench installed. A Limited

    model comes with either two or three rows, while an ultimate Limited

    model marked "Loaded" adds rear air conditioning and running boards.

    Power for all models comes from a 2.7-liter V-6 that generates 183

    hp. Inside, there's a new dashboard faced with wood-grain finish and

    chrome accents. Air conditioning and a keyless remote entry system

    are standard items, along with a new seven-speaker sound package and

    in-dash CD player.

  • Interesting on some of the changes. It appears the rear air is an option. It also appears you can get a limited w/o the rear AC and third row. All those were standard till this year and that is why I got the XL-7. It was (is) a great value for the money. I will be interested in what the new dash looks like. I purchased the "aluminium" look aftermarket dash kit for mine and I have to say it looks like original equipment. Fits right in.
  • 34000 on my 2001 has been a good vehicle till now. In the dealers now for a front diff. problem doing an oil change on the diffs, transfer case and transmission this week noticed an oil leak around the right side axle where it enters the diff. Found about 1/4" slop in axle hub to diff. up and down. Concerned Suzuki mechanic trying to say its normal. They are replacing the seal and axle hub on the diff. and the shifter to case seal on the transfer case. Any one else having diff. problems with there's. AND does any one have an diagram or picyure of how this diff. is built.
    Thanks
    marchlou@netheaven.com
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    I think that there is a TSB on the front axle on the Vitara. Im not sure if it included the XL7 tho..

    Frank
  • Was at Dewey Beach with my Greyhounds this past weekend and gave my XL-7 a good workout. Did really well and had several people say how nice it looked. At 13,500 still trouble and rattle free.
  • parideparide Posts: 52
    Glad to here that. My XL-7 just turned 10K miles and is also trouble and rattle free.
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    Gotta hand it to em, zuki does indeed build a tough SUV
  • so does anyone know of any dealers who have 'em yet ?????
    patkool
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    My local Suzuki dealer says next month. In fact yesterday they were still gettin in NEW 2002's.. I was watching em unload off the delivery truck.
    Frank
  • rando2rando2 Posts: 8
    Has anyone tried putting 235 65 16 tires on the XL-7???????
  • tronsr1tronsr1 Posts: 149
    I suggest you go to TireRack.com, get their 800 number and call them.You are talking a speedometer change and possible tire rubbing at the wheel wells.{I think}...
  • I am looking into purchasing one of these vehicles. I am hoping someon here has driven both of them and can provide some good comparisons between the two.
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    It really depends on what you are looking for. The XL7 offers 7 passinger seating the Kia don't. The XL7 is a proven design. Suzuki has been making em for years. The Kia is a brand new design. Japanese vs. Korean.. no comment. no brainer here:)
    The Kia is nice, no doubt. But the XL7 is nicer:) Espicially the 2003's. redesign of the dash and it looks really nice.
    Drive both and you will see..

    Frank
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Has both low-range and dry-pavement 4wd which is a Plus in my book. Also it's been out for a year at least overseas.

    -mike
  • suvansuvan Posts: 2
    I have liked the XL-7 since its introduction until recently read about Suzuki review on http://www.thecarplace.com concerning its gas tank being located too close to the rear bumper and right under the 3rd row seat (optional 2003), potentially high risk in a rearend collision...


    Can anyone tell me if this is a valid concern?

    I have confirmed the gas tank location from Suzuki website, but have not heard any complaint on this. I'm looking forward to seeing the 2003 XL-7 with redesigned interior next month but the gas tank issue has been putting me off.


    Thanks for sharing any info.

  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    COuld be sensationalism on the part of someone.
    Like the chevy pickups from 1973-87 that dateline expose' but no one mentioned how chevy built millions of these trucks and didn't seem to have much of an issue until Dateline popped up.

    I'd rest easy if I were you....no vehicle company is going to risk millions on lawsuits and PR damage by building an unsafe vehicle.
  • suvansuvan Posts: 2
    Thanks mopar67 for sharing the Dateline story,

    I agree that Suzuki makes good and safe vehicles.

    They claimed the gas tank under the rearbumper is protected by metal shield, although the safest place to put the gas tank is in the middle between front and rear axles away from crush zones. Currently gas tank location is not a requirement in the federal safety tests.


    On quick research, I'm surprised to find an ongoing lawsuit against Ford's unprotected gas tank safety, have you heard this from

    http://www.CrownVictoriaSafetyAlert.com


    That's the problem of being a big company where image and lawsuit is costly...

  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    do the research and see how many cars have the gas tanks placed in this place over the years. Too many to mention. I would not be too concerned over this point..

    Frank
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    No matter where the gas tank is.
    Federal standards specify different crash scenarios and how much, if any, fuel can leak during a collision.
    As before, I cannot imagine Suzuki, who is trying to capture market share, would construct a potentially unsafe vehicle.
    More the point, Suzuki, being a Japanese company not dominated by shareholder interests, will more than likely not cave into a beancounter's cost cutting fetish.

    Ford, in the 1970's saved approximately $4.00 on the fuel filler neck design for the Pinto. The problem was, in a collison, the fuel filler pipe would be ripped out and the gas would spill out thus making a fire pretty likely. Ford's beancounters weighed the cost of modifying the fuel filler neck to the potential lawsuits from deaths involved in collisions and decided it would be lest costly to fight a lawsuit than to modify the fuel filler tube.
    To modify the tube, as I said, would be about $4.00 per vehicle. Multiply that over say 250,000 per year and you get a million dollars. Multiply that over the Pintos 10 year production run, now you are at 10,000,000 dollars!! That is money that Ford would have paid out. Now, take the opposite tack and DON't spend the money. Assume you will face a lawsuit. What would the chances be that Ford would have had to pay out millions in a lawsuit? Well the beancounters gambled......and lost.......Ford ended up paying millions in lawsuits and lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the consumer.

    This is why beancounters should not be involved in product design. They simply look at numbers, no more, no less. End of story. They are not trained to consider the remifications of their decisions and on occassion, the "people" factor is not considered either. That is how Bob Mcnamara tried to fight the Vietnam war; like you would run a company's balance sheet. Throw in micromangement to the highest order and well, you have a mess. But I digress.

    Beancounters have a role for sure. Their role is the back room counting the money and presenting the CEO with the P&L sheet each quarter. But to place one of these people in the product planning or development areas of vehicle design is inviting disaster or at the least, a cheap, poorly made vehicle.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Don't forget there are frame rails that protect the tank as well. On uni-body vehicles there are no frame rails to protect the tank which is a reason they put it in-board.

    -mike
  • Hi,

    Have been comparing the usual small to mid-size SUVs (Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorrento, Saturn Vue, etc.) then saw the Suzuki X-L and LOVED it's looks and space (as well as that almost usable 3rd row seat option). But, I can't find much safety data, although my research shows the basic model has been out for a couple of years already. Only the one test in which it did well... Are there any roll-over ratings or history that anyone knows of (positive or negative)?

    Thank you!
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    All the info that I can find is on the Vitara. No roll over testing was done on the XL7. Tho you can ASSume that the rating for the Vitara and the XL7 are similar. The vitara gor 3 out of 5 stars. Not too much of a threat of a roll over.
    BTW- according to the crash tests the XL7 did EXCELLANT.
    Frank
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  • getting ready for the 15k service. Still no trouble with a thing. I just keeps going. Maybe it should be call a TIMEX.
  • parideparide Posts: 52
    While driving last night, both the "BRAKE" and "ABS" lights on the dashboard simultaneously illuminated and remained on. The brakes continued to work and the fluid level in the master cylinder reservoir was good. According to the manual, both lights on simultaneously could indicate a problem with the ABS proportioning valve associated with the rear brakes. My vehicle is a 2002 with 11,800 miles on it. The dealer will be taking a look at it tomorrow.
  • parideparide Posts: 52
    I took my XL-7 to the dealer for the problem described in the previous post. I was within a mile from the dealership when I stepped on the brakes to stop at a traffic light. At that time, both the "ABS" and "BRAKE" dashboard lights turned off. I took it to the dealer anyway, but they could not find a problem. The entire time those two lights were illuminated, I did not notice any difference in braking capability. For now, I'll write it off as a fluke, but if it happens again, I'll be back at the dealer.
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