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Suzuki XL-7

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  • suvansuvan Posts: 2
    Thanks mopar67 for sharing the Dateline story,

    I agree that Suzuki makes good and safe vehicles.

    They claimed the gas tank under the rearbumper is protected by metal shield, although the safest place to put the gas tank is in the middle between front and rear axles away from crush zones. Currently gas tank location is not a requirement in the federal safety tests.


    On quick research, I'm surprised to find an ongoing lawsuit against Ford's unprotected gas tank safety, have you heard this from

    http://www.CrownVictoriaSafetyAlert.com


    That's the problem of being a big company where image and lawsuit is costly...

  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    do the research and see how many cars have the gas tanks placed in this place over the years. Too many to mention. I would not be too concerned over this point..

    Frank
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    No matter where the gas tank is.
    Federal standards specify different crash scenarios and how much, if any, fuel can leak during a collision.
    As before, I cannot imagine Suzuki, who is trying to capture market share, would construct a potentially unsafe vehicle.
    More the point, Suzuki, being a Japanese company not dominated by shareholder interests, will more than likely not cave into a beancounter's cost cutting fetish.

    Ford, in the 1970's saved approximately $4.00 on the fuel filler neck design for the Pinto. The problem was, in a collison, the fuel filler pipe would be ripped out and the gas would spill out thus making a fire pretty likely. Ford's beancounters weighed the cost of modifying the fuel filler neck to the potential lawsuits from deaths involved in collisions and decided it would be lest costly to fight a lawsuit than to modify the fuel filler tube.
    To modify the tube, as I said, would be about $4.00 per vehicle. Multiply that over say 250,000 per year and you get a million dollars. Multiply that over the Pintos 10 year production run, now you are at 10,000,000 dollars!! That is money that Ford would have paid out. Now, take the opposite tack and DON't spend the money. Assume you will face a lawsuit. What would the chances be that Ford would have had to pay out millions in a lawsuit? Well the beancounters gambled......and lost.......Ford ended up paying millions in lawsuits and lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the consumer.

    This is why beancounters should not be involved in product design. They simply look at numbers, no more, no less. End of story. They are not trained to consider the remifications of their decisions and on occassion, the "people" factor is not considered either. That is how Bob Mcnamara tried to fight the Vietnam war; like you would run a company's balance sheet. Throw in micromangement to the highest order and well, you have a mess. But I digress.

    Beancounters have a role for sure. Their role is the back room counting the money and presenting the CEO with the P&L sheet each quarter. But to place one of these people in the product planning or development areas of vehicle design is inviting disaster or at the least, a cheap, poorly made vehicle.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Don't forget there are frame rails that protect the tank as well. On uni-body vehicles there are no frame rails to protect the tank which is a reason they put it in-board.

    -mike
  • Hi,

    Have been comparing the usual small to mid-size SUVs (Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorrento, Saturn Vue, etc.) then saw the Suzuki X-L and LOVED it's looks and space (as well as that almost usable 3rd row seat option). But, I can't find much safety data, although my research shows the basic model has been out for a couple of years already. Only the one test in which it did well... Are there any roll-over ratings or history that anyone knows of (positive or negative)?

    Thank you!
  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    All the info that I can find is on the Vitara. No roll over testing was done on the XL7. Tho you can ASSume that the rating for the Vitara and the XL7 are similar. The vitara gor 3 out of 5 stars. Not too much of a threat of a roll over.
    BTW- according to the crash tests the XL7 did EXCELLANT.
    Frank
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,982
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  • getting ready for the 15k service. Still no trouble with a thing. I just keeps going. Maybe it should be call a TIMEX.
  • parideparide Posts: 52
    While driving last night, both the "BRAKE" and "ABS" lights on the dashboard simultaneously illuminated and remained on. The brakes continued to work and the fluid level in the master cylinder reservoir was good. According to the manual, both lights on simultaneously could indicate a problem with the ABS proportioning valve associated with the rear brakes. My vehicle is a 2002 with 11,800 miles on it. The dealer will be taking a look at it tomorrow.
  • parideparide Posts: 52
    I took my XL-7 to the dealer for the problem described in the previous post. I was within a mile from the dealership when I stepped on the brakes to stop at a traffic light. At that time, both the "ABS" and "BRAKE" dashboard lights turned off. I took it to the dealer anyway, but they could not find a problem. The entire time those two lights were illuminated, I did not notice any difference in braking capability. For now, I'll write it off as a fluke, but if it happens again, I'll be back at the dealer.
  • bunoybunoy Posts: 7
    Hello everyone. I have owned my XL7 for about 9k miles now. No problems so far. I would like to know if everyone here gets the recommended servicing done;ie the 6 months service, the 12 months service etc. Is the scheduled service really, really necessary or would my money be better saved? I was quoted about $110 for the 6 mths and $250 for the 12 mths. I did not get the 6 mths service btw.

    PS: Was great in snow today. The 4wd works GREAT !! Just worried about not being able to stop:))
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    welcome to the Suzuki club!
    You will find that these hamsters are tough, well made, and dependable. I have 8K on my Vitara no problems save for an alternator that went south.

    As far as the service interval, check your manual rather then go by the dealer recommendation.
    The dealer will recommend stuff that is designed to MAKE money for them not necessarily for you.

    Paride..keep us all posted on your mystery brake light. My guess is that a sensor is going whacko on you but prudence dictates you stay on top of this and make every effort to keep the dealership advised.
  • Just picked up our 2002 xl-7 today, with about 18k miles. The tires, like most here it seems like, were already showing a lot of wear. I was looking at getting new ones, and wanted to try and get something larger, to give a little more ground clearance and better appearance. Has anyone gone with a larger tire like a 235/70-16?
    Just eyeballing it, it looks like there would be enough room, but wondered if somebody had already tried it. Thanks
    dave
  • I am getting ready for the 15k service and was wondering if anyone has had it done yet and if so what was the cost?
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,982
    The Edmunds Maintenance Guide will suggest what we think it should cost.


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  • kimiedkimied Posts: 2
    Hello all, we are new to the boards. Just purchased the XL-7, 02 Limited Model on the 30th. My husband and I LOVE it, except......for the whistle!!! When it reaches anywhere between 60 and 70 mph, there is this annoying whistle that seems to come from the middle of the dash board. It doesn't happen all the time, but maybe the wind needs to be just right??? We have only had this XL-7 for 3 days so I am wondering if it just needs to be "broken in"? I can't stand the sound though!

    Any thoughts? Should we contact the dealer? Thanks for all your good postings, we really love what we've gotten and do feel like it is a really well kept secret.

    Kimie and John

    PS What is a reverse sensor system???


  • Specific problem: I just purchased the 2000 GV. There's a squeaky-rattle in the dash area near the driver's side. Does anyone have infomation about this matter, specifically, how to resolve it?




    Specific thanks: Before summer arrives I will have the A/C system checked. Thanks for the advance warnings; it's always nice to know about problems in advance.




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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Welcome aboard, Kimied!

    My husband and I LOVE it, except......for the whistle!!!

    I understand that with the right combination of terrain and modulation of speed you can get the whistle to play a reasonable rendition of the 1812 Overture - quite fascinating! If you can get your GV to backfire it's really dramatic! ;-)

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  • flyingnflyingn Posts: 213
    welcome Kimmy. We too have a 02 Limited. What color is yours? Ours is pearl white.
    Anyway.. is the ac or outside vents and fan on?? I have been in many XL7's and have never heard such a whistle. Id take it back to the dealer and show them. This is a warranty problem.
    Let us know what happens?
    BTW- where are you from? Where did u get it?

    Frank & Terry
  • kimiedkimied Posts: 2
    Hi Frank and Terry,
    No, the AC is not on. The outside vents are open and I think the fan was on the lowest setting. Oh, it is soooo annoying! It has dramatically declined in duration (thank goodness!), but still happens. I guess we'll have to take it in. Dang! We are from Portland, OR and we got in in SE Portland. It is Black (we would have rather gotten the silver or the white--but they were out of those colors). The Burgandy looked too brown for us, the green too light and my husband did not like the dark blue at all. So we got the all purpose black, which is just fine!!!! Would like to know again what the rear sensor system is. We keep reading people say they are going to install one in their vehicles. We'll let you know what happens with the dealer...
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