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I was just surfing around and found this forum
and was wondering if any other owners are having trouble with the xl7.
I have had mine (2001 4x4 plus automatic)for 2 months with 2730kms so far I have had a Blown Engine, rattle in front windows and a squeaky exhaust, I have done no off-roading and very little highway driving. I have also noticed another xl7 with the engine being removed at the dealer while I checked on mine. a couple of lemons or what?? I am NOT impressed with this rig.
Rumors are that they have a new body style and seating for 6 in 2002 any truth to this? Why change in such a short time? Are sales that bad?
I'm glad I didn't buy, resale will suck if the rumors are true. Thank god I leased, one more problem and I'm tossing the keys on the salesman desk. Its my first Suzuki and my last Suzuki.
mike m
As to seating for 6 that is an interesting comment. It is supposed to seat 7 now (6 is much closer to reality). As far as I know there are no problems with the engine. I go out of my way to talk with other XL-7 owners when I see one and no one I have talked to has said anything about engine problems. Sorry you are having such trouble.
-Anne
It weighs 3700 lbs which is quite a bit more than most of the mini-utes. The doors have a nice thunk to them when closed, especially those big rear doors.
Put the hood protector on last night, what a pain. They use a combination of clips and plastic brackets and protective tape where they might touch the paint. Quite a bit more to it than the one on my Tacoma. But it does fit tight and proper once I finally got it all on and after one trip to the auto store to replace a small plastic grommet that I dropped and lost. Looks nice and has a low profile.
So far we love our Suzuki, it does all that we need it to do very well and comfortably. Saw another one on the road today, that makes two since we bought last week.
My only concern is how well the mechanical components hold up after a couple of years, we'll see!
-Anne
-mike
I was also finally able to get the bra put on. It seems the company is having some trouble with the supplier. I found one at another dealer and had it sent to mine. It is a very nice fit. I have the full bra. I made the mistake with the
Windstar and only went with the hood cover. The front bumper is messed up and if I had the full cover it would not be as it is. It also looks good. I had it on for the trip and with driving at night I collected lots of bugs on the front end. It did good!!!!
-mike
After having one, I swore I would never put another one on a vehicle, I just use a hood protector.
-mike
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/0116.htm
Note that only vehicles within 500 lbs of each others' curb weights should be compared.
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From the IIHS:
"In the Institute's 40 mph offset test, 40 percent of the total width of each vehicle strikes a barrier on the driver side. The barrier's deformable face is made of aluminum honeycomb, which makes the forces in the test similar to those involved in a frontal offset crash between two vehicles of the same weight, each going just less than 40 mph. Test results can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight. Like full-width crash test results, the results of offset tests cannot be used to compare vehicle performance across weight classes."
I hope this helps,
Drew
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Has anyone heard that for 2003 the XL-7 is going to a uni-body and all wheel drive like the Escape and the other fake SUVs? If so, anyone who wants a real SUV in this size better get one now.
If you have any questions about tires, check out the Tires, tires, tires discussion topic in the Aftemarket & Accessories message board. From my expeirence, raising the tires pressure a couple of psi may help to decrease the cupping.
Drew
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As to PSI in the the tires you are 100% correct. Not only will they last longer but turning is easier.
My wife and I will be taking it to the Greyhounds Reach the Beach at Dewey Beach over Columbus Day weekend. I will have two of the dogs and a carrier on the roof. Just hope for good weather. I will report on how it does.
Thanks for sharing! I must say that you have been so resourceful;a big inspiration to my knowledge reguarding the XL-7. Latest: I just received my vent visors from McNeil...Thanks!
Reguarding space between seats,uneven surface,
more hp. Woodbridge Suzuki,Woodbridge,Va. should have available a 2002 model very soon. Last week
during my oil change I reviewed the 2002 specs, only the added hp was mentioned. The salesman was unaware of the changes in the space between seats. However, he did mention that there would be two models of the 2002. One being the (seat 7} model,and one being without the (3rd row)of seats... offering more cargo space.
I have the touring model...now at 12500! No problems. Just make sure when you have an oil change the oil is cleaned from the undercarriage.
During my 4 changes, each time I've had oil stains in my garage. I physically checked, the filter on my recent change and found it in a difficult location. When its removed,it usually drains to the cross frame.
Happy motoring!
I had to get a replacement for the drivers window vent as mine split in half when I went to install it. It was replaced at no cost.
Do you have the cross bars for the roof rack? My dealer wants something like $160 for a pair and I think I will see what MacNiel wants for theirs, if it will fit.
On the back seat space: I wish I could remember the name of the magazine I looked at that had the update on the 2002. It also said heated mirrors on the limited.
"Hi Guys,
Just got back from the dealer, I noticed the new 2002s were in
and wanted to compare them...not much difference, new seat fabric
design, kind of plain grey and heated mirrors. no hard shell cover,
its now an option as are the mats,The interior, controls, dash, door
trim are all the same.
My dealer did say that the base model will have seating for 5 no
third seat and its gonna kill the GV sales big time.He also said that
the xl7 line was setting record sales in Canada and the US. My dealer
still has the 0.01% interest no money down lease rate. I'm not sure on
the total prices. Still a great deal!!
So not much change in the Plus and Touring only the Base model.
as for my engine so far so good, to date I have had 4 calls from
Suzuki Canada asking about my satisfaction, Not bad......"
Apparently he has seen the 2002 in person, I believe he is Canadian.
Ours is about due for it's first oil change and I was thinking about doing it myself, but you guys confirmed my concerns that the filter is in a place that will create a big mess when changed, I think I'll let the dealer do it.
I have cross bars for the roof racks, but got the dealer to throw them in as part of the deal, don't know how much they cost, but would guess it's bucks. FYI, the Mont Blanc racks are a "universal" clamp type that can clamp onto almost any roof rack. They do have a custom "Suzuki" label on them that is cool. But, my point is that I'm sure Thule or Yakima sell a similiar type of clamping, fits many type, kind of cross bars. Maybe they would be cheaper? Also, it looks like any Thule components that fit the square tube racks would fit on the Mont Blanc racks, so I'm going to check that out.
I have searched high and low for a USA Mont Blanc distributor, but no luck. I even wrote to Mont Blanc and they gave me the name of a distributor here in the US, but they only seem to carry the ski racks.
Has anyone ever seen them here?
http://www.macneil.com
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them from the dealer? How much were they? Easy to install?
Does anyone know of a suitable aftermarket model that would fit well
and be the right type?
Any info would be appreciated.
-mike
A few comments however:
1. If you are going to carry dogs or need a flat floor with no space between the second and third rows you will have to get a 2002. I cut a piece of plywood to cover the space between the seats since this is for the Greyhounds to use as a fun vehicle. However, if it is not a problem then a 2001 will do.
2. There is an additional 8 or 10 HP for 2002. The 2001 175 horses are really enough. Good pickup and we have the automatic.
3. Heated mirros for the limited are new for 2002.
Other than that no real difference. The best value for the money, IMO, is the touring. You get the moon roof, the rear air and fog lights as part of the package. If you want leather and running boards then the limited is the way to go. We have the limited and love it.
It also received the highest possible rating in the 40 MPH offset crash test but you to watch out for the spare tire when backing up.