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  • lspanglerlspangler Posts: 102
    The cold affects milege in a number of ways:

    Cold air has much more oxygen in it than warm air does, your o2 sensor sees this and richens the fuel mixture so at any given RPM, you are burning more fuel.

    When using the defrost setting on your HVAC control on a vehicle eqipped with A/C, the A/C compressor is switched on to help remove moisture from the air so you are actually driving around with the A/C on in the winter at times. If you don't believe it try this test. When your PF has been running a while, set your temperature to cold and the vent to the floor, let it run this way for a bit and notice the temp of the air, now leave it on clod and switch to DEF, the air will get much colder because of the A/C. This obviously only works when it's warm out though.

    Also, letting your car warm up before driving it affects the mileage quite a bit. my old Chevy full size would drop from 17 mpg to 12 mpg in the winter. I'm currently getting about 14.5 - 15.5 mpg with my new SE manual. I am hoping some warm weather will improve this.
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    nismofreak: I went back to the home page in this sight and I found that
    this is a "Consumer Comments" area. Are you a "consumer" before or after
    purchase?? This is also a " Nissan Pathfinder Main Comment Area."
    We are doing fine! Steve
  • Oil filter for a 01'LE, any suggestions? (Nissan's, AC Delco, Motorcraft)

    Txs for your input.
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    aspen white: I used perolator L14612 for the 3.5 engine.
    The filter is infront of the engine. You have to remove the splash
    sheld. Several small screws 10mm wrench and 1 plastic fastener
    in the middle. There is a small scupper under the filter to keep
    oil off the suspention. I called Perolator to get this number the
    catalogs by the filters in the store did not have the 2001 PF yet.
    Cheers.....
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    I get different numbers for your vehicle than li_sailor

    Invoice List
    2001 SE 4x4 base 26683 29349
    Destination 520 520
    J03 Sunroof Pkg 953 1099
    4AT Auto trans 909 1000
    X03 Leather Pkg 1734 1999
    P92 Tow Hitch III 305 389
    SUBTOTAL 31104 34356

    And you have a quote for $29,400? Wow, that's way under my figures here. Are you sure of the options like leather? Is it really 4x4? Not that I would be suspicious of what a salesman would say... :-)

    -Jon
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    In the past 6 months numerous people on this forum have mentioned that the outside temperature indicator on their '01 PF consistently reads 6 to 8 degrees too high. I asked my dealer to fix the problem and was told that "they are all the same way".

    While I do like my truck very much, and admit this is a minor problem, there is no excuse for not being able to get it repaired.

    I'm willing to compile a list of owners with the same problem and send it to Nissan. Hopefully a long list will get their attention, and they will offer the dealers a fix. I would be happy to Email each participant a copy of the letter I send.

    If you would like to be included, please send the following data to pmo755@hotmail.com:

    VIN number, model year, name, address and phone number of vehicle owner, Email address, and any remarks about the problem.
  • Shortly after I took delivery of the vehicle my 2001 pathfinder le developed a shimmy at 45/55 and 60/75 mph and a strong pull to the right or left. two dealers have tried to remedy this situation by going through a flowchart attached to tsb 98-102 ( or rather the 1999/2001 upgraded version )the but to no avail. they adjusted the steering rack sliding force, replaced one of the original dunlop TG35 tires and finally replaced all the dunlop tires with michellin tires. all to no avail. the vehicle continues to have shimmy and pull. I contacted Nissan and invited a them to have their rep inspect the vehicle and work out some solution to this problem. no response other then from the dealer. I wrote a letter to nissan in accordance with the rules of the florida lemon law which requires their response within 10 days. Again no response. The matter is now subject to arbitration under the bbb-autoline program which as part of the procedures under the florida lemon law. I am deeply disappointed that my vehicle could not be repaired but more so disappointed with the lack of response from nissan.
    in talking to the dealers it seemed many more pathfinder owners suffered from this problem but did not persue this matter under the lemon law.
  • smithmdsmithmd Posts: 167
    I went diggin' in the archives for my original post with the info from the NTB. The post isn't there. I found one of my posts referencing my post with the NTB info, but not the actual post. It was in Area VII. Here is the referencing post. I'll have to dig out the NTB at home and post that info again. Bear with me on the info because I'm not exactly sure what I did with the NTB. By the way, I've been shimmy free for over 4,000 miles, now.

    #536 of 884 Pathfound: Shimmy fix by smithmd Oct 03, 2000 (04:52 am)
    I recently had my shimmy fixed. A lot of people have discussed this throughout this forum. If you search for shimmy in this Area and the previous Area, you will find all you could ever want to read about the shimmy. If you just want to see how I got mine fixed, though, just look at posts 400, 434, and 435 in this Area. You will find most of my experiences in the first two and some info from the NTB (TSB) in the third.

    Good luck ridding yourself of the shimmy!
  • meca2,
    Thanks for the info!
    Cheers
    AW
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Check out the Subaru area in the Owner's Club message board. Is that what you all have in mind? If it is and there's enough interest, you could request a Nissan Pathfinder Owner's club area to be created.


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  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    Your list/inv numbers are right but XSE did not spec auto trans. If he meant to, he should go to the LE and get AWD for $300 more...that's the way I got there.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
  • xsexse Posts: 66
    yes, its a 4x4 SE with auto trans, leather,sunroof,hitch 3 towing for $29,400. but i know that pathfinders have been underpriced. maybe dealers are getting big rebates or something, i dont know.

    i thought the LE was the 'luxury' version with mesh-looking wheels and the SE was the sporty off-road version. I wanted to get in under $30,000 so thats why i didnt look at the LE... also, not crazy about electronic 4wd...opinions?
  • yj87yj87 Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    Does the new v6 engine in the pathfinder require premium fuel ? Anybody running it on regular gas ?

    yj87
  • tonychrystonychrys Posts: 1,310
    Most 4WD systems use a viscous coupling mechanism. A special fluid that changes density characteristics due to heat/friction.

    The activation controls may be electronic, but the drive train is not.
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    >> lofquist/re: Price on 4x4 SE by xse <<
    >> Your list/inv numbers are right but XSE did not spec auto trans. If he meant to, he should go to the LE and get AWD for $300 more...that's the way I got there. <<

    But you can't get leather seats without the auto transmission. I know - it doesn't make sense but Nissan just has it set up that way.

    And sorry the numbers got so out of line on the #521 post of mine. I guess that Edmunds no longer handles tabs in posts. The first number on each line is invoice; the second is list.

    But as those of us who went to Canada to buy know, you could go up to Vancouver or Toronto and bring that vehicle home for about $27,700. And it would include the AWD and limited slip too. That's more than $3000 under US dealer invoice.

    -Jon
  • Okay... I have only been on this site for as long as I have owned my Pathy (3 months, has it been that long!). How would we go about locating two Edmunds hosts? Do we need to find people to use the board? I am sure that we could find enough topics to do around like: Break In Proceedures, Maintenance routines/short cuts, Off Roading Practises, etc.

    But my thought is: for such a "normal" vehicle, will there be enough interest to sustain it? And how many people here really do want it?

    thoughts?
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    ok-I forgot that auto is std w/leather...so that's a great price (barring canada). That's $1600 below my price similarly equipped. Yes, the LE is 'luxury' but if you've got leather you've got most of the luxury already, no? The diff is fake wood on the dash (ugh!), same color mirror/bumpers, 6 spoke wheels instead of 5 spoke, auto temp control, auto on/off headlights and memory seat (anything else, folks?) and of course, the AWD (another subject altogether, but I think it's worth $300 easy). I think you get rear a/c ducts also if it's 4x4. For me, it was "do I want this more attractive SE or the AWD" and I'm leaning to the AWD.

    YJ87 - yes, you need 91 octane premium
  • yj87,
    I use 85 octane (over 6000 feet altitude)and it runs great! Check your owner's manual. It specifies AKI (octane) ratings for different conditions.
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  • smithmdsmithmd Posts: 167
    Well, it happened. A couple of weeks ago, I dropped my keys in the parking lot without realizing it. No big deal, right? Just go pick 'em up. The only problem is that it snowed about 8 or 9 inches that day and the plows had run in the parking lot at least 3 or 4 times before I realized that I had lost my keys. I guess I'll find 'em in April. Anyway, I need a replacement. The Nissan dealer says that I have to be physically at the dealer for him to cut the key and then it will take about 30 minutes to an hour for them to program the key to the truck. $57 for the key and $30 to program the truck/key. Is this reasonable? Is there a way to just buy the key and program the key myself? My wife doesn't like the remote, anyway, so I'm not going to replace that.

    Thanks in Advance
  • smithmdsmithmd Posts: 167
    Here is everything about the shimmy. I found my old post. I'd actually saved it in a text file on my PC just-in-case. I'm still shimmy free. Now the other old post:

    I just got the Nissan Service Bulletin I had
    mentioned. It's 11 pages and includes and lot of
    stuff, so I won't attempt to reproduce it on this
    page. I will say that on the flow chart, the first
    question is, "Is this vehicle equipped with Nissan
    OEM wheels and tires?" If the answer is no, such
    as if you have already replaced the tires, the flow
    chart states, "This Technical Service Bulletin and
    Nissan Warranty Coverage do not address vibration
    that can be caused by after market products or
    modifications." Even though you've replaced your
    tires already, you might ask your tech to print you
    off a copy of this NTB.

    I remember some folks talking about having their
    wheels chromed. The next question in the flow
    chart is, "Are the Nissan OEM wheels aftermarket
    chrome plated?" If the answer to this question is
    yes, you get the same response as the guy that has
    already replaced his tires.

    Nissan Service Bulletin

    Classification: ST99-001
    Reference: NTB00-061
    Date: July 18, 2000

    1999.5-2001 Pathfinder steering and/or body
    vibration

    Applied Vehicles: 1999.5-2001 Pathfinder (R50)

    Service Information
    If a 1999.5-2001 Pathfinder exhibits steering
    and/or body vibration while driven (without
    braking) at speeds between 60 and 70 MPH, the
    cause(s) may be:
    - Road input (road surface imperfections)
    - Out-of-balance front or rear tires/wheels
    - Insufficient steering rack sliding force
    adjustment
    - Tire flat spotting
    - Excessive tire Radial Force Variations (RFV)

    The last part (RFV) is where they look to index or
    match balance your tires and if that still doesn't
    work, they replace your tires.

    Hope this helps.
  • xsexse Posts: 66
    thanks for the info. thanks for reminding me about the fake wood- thats why i wont buy the LE. having to see that every day is too much!

    i use the 4wd for off-road which is why i am hesitant with the electronic switch, but im guessing the electronic awd system is better for street use.

    well, if i get one i guess ill be in here more often! thanks again
  • sanandtonsanandton Posts: 342
    Thanks loads for your work on digging up the shimmy info. I've already printed it out and will present it to my dealer next week. Have a good day!
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    I have been running regular fuel in mine since new with out any
    problems. Does your area put alcohol in the fuel? The engine has
    a knock sencer and auto spark adjust. I would keep using the
    same fuel or you might drive the computer krazzy. I have read some
    place that even changing to a foam air cleaner takes about 2 weeks
    for the computer to adjust. Who knows about a K&N,might not ever
    get used to that!!
    Cheers......
  • duperduper Posts: 127
    For those that have '99 model Pathfinder, here's the TSB for the shimmy

    Vehicle: 1999 NISSAN TRUCK PATHFINDER
    Bulletin Number: NTB98102
    Bulletin Date: 02/99

    Component: SUSPENSION

    Summary: VEHICLE EXHIBITING STEERING SHIMMY WHILE DRIVEN AT SPEEDS BETWEEN 60 AND 70 MPH (W/O BRAKING),DUE TO OUT-OF-BALANCE FRONT OR REAR TIRES / WHEELS AND / OR INSUFFICIENT STEERING RACK SLIDING FORCE ADJUSTMENT. *TT

    Please Note: Over 6000 TSB’s are issued annually by automobile manufacturers. Most TSBs are only applicable to a small number of cars within each model type.
  • meca2meca2 Posts: 284
    Smithmd: The key on these SUV have a chip in the key. If you don't
    go to the dealer and have on made with there machine you cannot start
    the engine. I don't know about the lock thats only in the drivers door.
    Good Luck.
  • pat01pat01 Posts: 23
    Did you know that the computer chip and module driving your compass and temperature gauge is the same module that controls all your dashboard gauges and (here is the key one) the odometer. As I am learning, it is no small feat to replace this part. Based on my experience, I do not think Nissan would be easily able to replace this part since it can't easily be switched or traded (odometer laws make this part vehicle-specific).

    Mine has been malfunctioning since I bought my LE November 18. Today is Day #43 in the shop waiting for this part. Lemon law papers filed.

    You may also want to report the defect (temperature gauge off) yourself to the NHTSA directly via their web site. If enough people complain to NHTSA, it may investigate.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Hi Pat,
    Thanks for the response. I was thinking that the problem was the outside temperature sensor which is located by the front grille. Fortunately I have not had trouble with the compass, gauages or odometer. Ugh! Your story about computer problems is all too familiar...sounds like the Grand Cherokee I used to have!

    I'm surprised, but I have not received any Emails from owners that want to be included on the complaint list. Perhaps the problem is not as widespread as I thought.
  • sanandtonsanandton Posts: 342
    I admit I don't like the extra 10 degrees added to my outside T gauge in the summer. I also admit I'm too lazy to do all of the numbers getting to add to your file. I would think a simple reposition of the temp sensor would suffice. I would be glad to add my c/o to your list if I could just give my name. I'm sure every Pathfinder has this problem as it is a design flaw.
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