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  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    then the best is that they are not only foldable but also removable...
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,312
    of buying an '04 because I didn't want the first-year vehicle built in a different place. I work with production quality (6-sigma) issues every day, and the number of variables introduced with moving a production process is huge -- never mind moving from a place where this stuff is a religion to where it's more tolerated than embraced. Best of luck to the '05 crowd.

    Only issue so far with ours is the need to burn premium fuel in large quantities. OTOH, we went on a genuine Arizona 4WD loop last Sunday (Montana Pass, near Superior) with #1 son & his family (they have a 14-year old Jeep) and had a really excellent time -- priceless. My goal was to gather a few AZ pinstripes, some mud and at least one dent on the undercarriage prior to getting the dealer plate off the vehicle. We were successful on all counts.

    Don't get me started on those who choose a vehicle based on its image rather than what it can do.

    We looked at Xterras and went with the Pathfinder for a number of reasons, but the lack of an engine oilpan skid plate is troubling, given the aggresive nature of many of the trails here in AZ. What would you folks here on the board recommend for an aftermarket engine skid plate?

    Anyway, I'm joining up and, based on other Edmunds boards, expect to pick up a lot of useful hints. In time, I may be able to provide some as well.

    Steve
  • Jack44Jack44 Posts: 221
    "We looked at Xterras and went with the Pathfinder for a number of reasons, but the lack of an engine oilpan skid plate is troubling, given the aggresive nature of many of the trails here in AZ. What would you folks here on the board recommend for an aftermarket engine skid plate?"

    I gather you aren't impressed with the plastic skid plate that's on there now...Mainly just a pain in the asp to take off when you do an oil change...
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i used to sell hondas when the pilot was out, and the seats were more than convenient to fold down...and yes, ALL of them. dont overanalyze it, my man. besides...the pathie will be bigger in all respects...the cargo volume will probably be even more than the current one even WITH 3 rows of seats.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,312
    Thanks for the input. Don't much care for the answer, but appreciate the effort. I may give Automotive Customizers a go.

    Steve
  • Hello everyone,

    Messages are very helpful and have decided to join.

    Since purchasing my 2000 pf April 2003 with 24,700 I have had problems with my windows and everytime I return to dealer, they simply silicone spray the windows...works for a little until I have to spray again.

    Yesterday the dealer said I would have to replace the rubber strips around windows and of course my warranty has expired and my extended warranty through Fidelity does not cover this. This will cost $700 to fix.

    It seems to me that 2000 and above are all experiencing this problem.

    I contacted Nissan of America and they stated that the only recall to windows was for Altimas and that I should not have to silicone spray or lube my windows.

    This seems to be a problem that many are experiencing and should be brought by many to Nissans attention. I am looking into what I can do to make Nissan realize that their Altima's windows are not the only problem.

    I like my truck but this is a problem. I will keep all in touch.

    I look forward to reading more messages and thanks in advance for any feedback.
  • phil47phil47 Posts: 394
    If you do a search on this in the Problems forum, you'll find my post regarding this problem on my 2001 LE. The dealer did more than just Silicon lube the guide (it was an adjustment of some sort). The windows work flawlessly since.

    In your case, the dealer's repeated attempts at a simple fix which was only temporary is unacceptable in my opinion. I would open a complaint file with Nissan saying that this should have been fixed properly the second time the problem cropped up (whether that fix was the adjustment that worked for me or a replacement of the rubber guides that they are finally recommending now that it is off warranty).

    Good luck!
  • In my last post # 7220, thanks to xplorx4 for the link on CD Titles. I have just purchased my Husky Floor Liners, and they fit like a glove compared to the old ones. I can stretch my left leg without making a mess. They don't have the deep ribs to keep water away from my pants,
    but who cares. My PF is an 03, these are for the 02 model. Have a look at these pics and see for yourself. http://photos.yahoo.com/sfd32
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    Was over at a friend's house for 6 hrs or so. I keep my 2001 LE in "auto" mode in the winter. It was -28C when I left. The "centre diff." lock light was on and stayed on until I drove about 1 km (warming it up, I guess). Must be time for synthetic trans. fluid! I thought the light just looked at the switch position, but it must sense the multiplate clutch state (frozen!).
  • phil47phil47 Posts: 394
    Same here. It's been happening since my 2001 LE was new. Good to know it's not just my truck. Is there trans/diff fluid which is acceptable to Nissan?
  • Thanks phil47

    I did speak with a supervisor Steve from Nissan of America and he was of no help....told me to go back to the dealer...Nissan will not fix unless it is total failure. Steve also stated that they do not recommend the sale of used vehicles!

    My dealer was sold to another and I had problems with both dealers since purchasing...had rotational tires on but noticed they were on backwards and worn the wrong way...had to fight to get new tires for about 2 months. Both dealers never documented anything...I would ask for invoices but told did not need. The only invoice I have is with a third Nissan dealer that is now in the location of where I purchased the truck. The third is not in good terms with the other two dealerships.
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    I was thinking Mobil 1 auto trans fluid. As for diff., I'm kind of partial to Royal Purple. Oh, yeah, and who cares what Nissan thinks ;-) as long as it works!
  • I'm confused by your "auto" mode. In auto mode, only the four green lights should be on, representing the four wheels. The amber light, in the centre (LOCK) should be on when in 4H. Check the card on your sunvisor. I'm brought my card in so I can look at it as I write this. Was the "lock" light on, when your were driving to your friends house ? You only indicated when you left. When it warmed up, did the light go off ? Is it possible that you may have switched to 4H briefly and forgot to return it to AUTO ? If by chance your 4WD system is misrepresenting the mode you're in, I'd have the dealer do a diagnostic on it. I love all this snow we've been getting, it gives me plenty of opportunity to play around in snow covered parking lots (as I was doing today), experimenting with the 4WD. The more I do so, the more I'm learning about my 03's capabilities...something alot of suv owners just don't take the time to do. That's why you see suv's in the snow bank off the side of the road ! Learn what your vehicle can do, more importantly, learn what it can't do. You can't do 140 km/h in 4H passing cars doing 80 km/h on a snow covered highway. Getting back to AUTO mode, you are still in 2WD, you have to accelerate to engage the front wheels. The four green lights can be mistaken for 4WD, especially for new PF owners (me) and first time suv owners (me). If no one knew this, I guarantee there's gonna be some tire tracks in a parking lot real soon in your neighbourhood.
  • phil47phil47 Posts: 394
    Pathstar1 has the same problem as me. When the temperature drops below around -20C - 25C, and you let the truck drop to that temp, when you switch to Automode 4wd, the dash indicates the center diff is locked (yellow light in the middle) even though it is NOT in 4Hi or 4Lo. Switching to 4Hi and back to Auto changes nothing, the diff stays locked until you have driven for around 10 minutes and then the light goes off and you are left with just the 4 green lights as is normal. Like Pathstar mentioned, it appears the clutchpack is just frozen for awhile and acts like it is locked.

    I know it is not just a malfunctioning indicator since this has happened a 4 times this week while I drive out of my office parkade (all left turns) and the truck hops as if it was in 4Hi. I have to switch it to 2wd to get out of the parkade!
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    That's it Phil. First time I've noticed it. My Path. is usually parked in my garage (unheated, but well insulated - it's -15C in there and -30C outside).
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Posts: 621
    I'm guessing that the glowing lamp is actually doing the right thing- informing you that the center diff is locked.

    This sort of makes sense. After all, wouldn't you rather know that the diff really is locked, rather than simply have a light tell you what position the switch is in?

    Anyway, from experience I know that on the part-time 4WD system, the green "4WD" dashboard light glows as long as the transfer case is engaged, even after the lever has been moved to 2WD mode. When the transfer case finally releases, the light shuts off. I can only speculate that the same is true with the Auto-mode t-case. For example, if you're running in 4HI or 4LO, the center diff is locked. It will probably remain locked even after you switch back into Auto mode, as long as there is some level of tension in the driveline (such as when turning sharply on a high-traction surface). As soon as that tension is released, the diff will unlock.

    Probably the bigger concern here is not why the lamp is glowing, but whether the t-case and center diff are being damaged when the fluid in the diff is cold enough to lock the front and rear driveshafts together. What has Nissan said about this? Anyone check yet?
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    I thought it was because the oil had locked it. I'm amazed it senses the clutch being locked by oil, and not just mechanically. When I parked it was in the "Auto" position (light not on). When I went to leave (before moving - ie when I started the engine in park) the light was on. How did it know? ;-) I didn't realize the Pathfinder was that smart.
  • phil47phil47 Posts: 394
    I spoke with my service advisor. He mentioned that this was not unusual and could be fixed by using synthetic fluids (they do this typically for oil company trucks seeing far Northern service).

    He recommend getting the tranny and transfer case fluid changed out at the same time. Labor was cheap (around $20), but this would take almost 15 litres of synthetic AT fluid to do both...ouch. I'm going to price it out (Redline has some I know).
  • Hey fellow Canadians. According to the owners manual for our '03 LE, the center diff light may come on in the conditions you discribed. According to the manual it means the truck is in 4H until the fluid becomes warm enough to allow the AUTO mode to function properly. The system seems to be very well designed and I too am happy that the indicator lights tells what the drive system is actually doing and not what the switch says. I think using synthetic fluid is a great idea. I was planning to switch our Pathy's diff fluid (hadn't thought about tranny) to synthetic after the warranty was over (maybe sooner). I've been using Amsoil products in my in one of my Volvos for almost 2 years now and my mechanic has been carrying it since I started using it. It seems like great stuff and is highly rated. Check out www.amsoil.com and look for a distributor in your area.
  • Hello everyone. The tire pressure monitor in our '03 LE has been malfunctioning from time to time for the last month or so. I have not experienced the problem myself, but my mom says that the light will usually come on after about an hour of driving on the hwy (~100 kph/~60mph). she has pulled over before and checked the tire pressures and they have been fine every time. She also said that when she restarts and drives away the light usually does not come on (at least not soon after). I was wondering if anyone else has had this sort of problem. The Pathy has an appointment with Nissan on Friday and hopefully they can explain it, but I just wanted to know if anyone else had experienced a similar problem. In case it matters, our Pathy came with the 17" rims, Michelin LTXs and has about 8800 km (~5500 mi) on it now.
  • phil47phil47 Posts: 394
    I've got the estimates in now. It will require approximately 15 litres of Mobil 1 synthetic AT fluid for both the tranny and the transfer case. This is around 3-4 litres more than capacity but is necessary to accommodate the power flush of the tranny. I will also switch to synthetic LSD fluid for the rear diff.

    Cost:
    $9/litre for synthetic AT fluid ($135)
    $5/litre for synthetic LSD fluid ($15)
    2 hours labour ($160)

    For $300 CAD I'm hoping it's worth it....

    BTW, I've heard that switching out an entire vehicle to synthetic fluids can improve fuel economy due to reduced friction (around 5% improvement). Sure could use it on this truck!
  • Well, took the Pathy to the dealer today and they found the problem with the tire pressure monitor......The pressure sensors weren't there! It just so happens that someone decided to steal our Pathy's 17"s while it was sitting in a back part of the dealer's lot before we bought it. The salesman didn't tell us when we bought it because he didn't know that had happened. No damage was caused to the truck when the wheels were taken and we were asured that nothing else had happened to the truck that we were not aware of. Anyway, when the new set of rims and tires were ordered, the parts guy didn't order new pressure sensors because he didn't realize that the truck was equipped with the new system. Needless to say, the light was comming on to tell us that there was no signal because the sensors weren't there! lol. 4 sensors are on order and all should be fine once they are installed.
  • well after about an hour reading the postings here i thought i'd say hi - i just got a beautiful black on black LE last saturday and i love it. i drove it back to back with a 4runner and there was no comparison. now i'm trying to "slow my roll" and try not to buy every last accessory available ;)

    so i sold my miata and i'm missing the community of miata.net. are there other discussion boards that are consumer oriented (not too techy) or clubs i should be aware of? post links!

    thanks
    http://www.greasergrrls.com/pathfinder
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    post links!

    Please don't! Linking to other auto forums is not allowed in Town Hall per the Terms of Use.

    tidester, host
  • woodyr1woodyr1 Posts: 142
    Some vehicles, such as Toyota, have a tire pressure monitoring system on all 5 wheels, so that the spare is also monitored. I suspect that thieves did not take the spare, as they would have needed tools to lower it down?
  • Well I went through this in November. The light kept coming on in my 01 Pathfinder. Took it to Town North Nissan (Austin, TX) they first said change the air, and fuel filter. Then they reset the light and it went off the next day and they said Air Flow Meter $1000, so they replaced that then I drove 2 days and it went off again .. this time they said.. oh .. well it's giving us a code of a bad catalytic convertor but we have a service Bulletin saying it's a bad program and we will reload the program and that should fix it. That was November and now it just went off again yesterday. I went to Auto Zone and he said it's giving a code saying it's a Throttle position Sensor. I asked him to reset the code and he did and the light did not go off again so I still think it's a bad program.
  • Hi Woody. As far as I am aware, the spare does not have a pressure sensor. Although it would make sense as it's a matching alloy wheel. It wasn't taken by the thieves. Like you said, they probably couldn't remove it. You can tell it wasn't taken because it's a stock Bridgestone tire and the replacement tires the Nissan dealer put on are Michelins. I prefer the Michelins, so I guess the theft actually ended up working in our favor! lol :)
  • woodyr1woodyr1 Posts: 142
    You can usually tell the pressure sensor equipped rims, as the valve stem is metal. When you drop the tire down, you should be able to see it. I think the spare sensor is good, as how many people actually check the air pressure in their spare - what good would a very low spare tire be?
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    A little tip: mount the spare with the valve stem facing down. That way you can check/adjust the pressure without removing it (laying on a piece of cardboard). It does fit that way - I did it to mine.
  • Metal valve stems. Ok. I'll check when I have a chance. It is a good idea, I agree. It's also not a bad idea to turn the wheel around as pathstar suggested either....Would make it much easier to check the spares pressure. Thanks for the help!
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