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  • bgritzbgritz Posts: 139
    About two months after we got the PF, I went to the dealership to have a spare (non-chip) key cut to put in my jacket when snowbaording etc.

    With non-chipped key in hand, I thought "Are they telling the truth about the chip?" I was parked at the dealer, so I tried it.

    It cranked, but didn't catch. They aren't lying-it doesn't work at all! OK lesson learned.

    I then put if the chipped key and cranked...
    UH OH, it didn't work either. After trying a couple of more times without success, the salesperson who had sold me the car strolled over. He said it was probably flooded. (I didn't tell him I had tried the other key) He had me crank it a few more time without success playing with the accelerator.

    I thought my curiosity had gotten me into big trouble!

    He then told me to pull the fuse for the fuel pump, (under the change holder, near the hood release) and give it a few cranks with the fuse removed.

    I put the fuse back in, inserted the real key and va-voom it fired right up.

    Wheeeew, how would I have explained my stupidity to my wife?

    Here's what happened:
    As soon as a key (any key) is inserted into the cylinder and turned past the lock, the computer tells the fuel management system to prime the engine by squrting a a bit a gasoline into the ignition chambers.

    Under normal circumstances (read using correct key) the engine gets a spark and promptly catches, burning up any excess fuel.

    When you use a non-chipped key, the computer doesent send a spark, so the excess fuel stays in the chamber. Everytime you try and crank it, it squirts in a little bit of new fuel, flooding the engine.

    By removing the fuse, and cranking with the good key, you are getting spark, but new fuel is not being sent to the engine. So after a few cranks you burn the excess fuel out of the chambers.

    When you put the fuse back in, and use the correct key, you have both pieces of the puzzle together again and it works as it should.

    My sales guy told me this should work in any flooding instance and it makes sense when you think about it.

    hope this may help someone in the future

    Brian
  • loboyloboy Posts: 75
    Sales tax (8.6%) is what I paid, plus title and license only when I registered and I got the plates the same day. That was last November, so I'm not sure if the DMV has changed their hearts about things since the new year. Great time to buy with the exchange rate. Good luck and let me know if you have questions.

    Don
  • When I bought my PF 01 LE two months ago, I thought I never needed to haul anything, so I got one without the towing package. Now, I realize that I'd ride dirt bike and need to haul it around with my PF. What options do I have? Thank you PF gurus.
  • smokey75smokey75 Posts: 434
    Hey dennis1950, the 3.9% financing will continue through 4/2 at least. This is confirmed by my dealer & the TV commercials. Not sure about the rebate though.

    Hey butterflymom, I'm in Louisville. What part of KY are you in? I will hopefully be purchasing a 01 LE this month & have been dealing with Neil Huffman Nissan, but we haven't talked numbers yet so that may change. Let me know if you have any luck with dealers & I'll do the same.
    Thanks
  • smokey75smokey75 Posts: 434
    Hey, does anyone know where to get the service manual cheaper than www.nissan-techinfo.com ?
    Also, what brand, type, & size of tire comes on the 2001 4x4 PF LE?
  • Hi! Recently (2 weeks - 854 miles) I became the proud owner of a 2001 PF LE. Everything was going great until tonight. On the way home from picking up my son, I had the sensation that the steering was a little more difficult and a bogged down sensation. Almost like parking brake was on but not quite that severe. Got out and checked all the tires which were fine. Began to feel like maybe I was in 4 wheel drive although I had not changed modes and in fact until this evening hadn't even shifted into 4 HI or LO. Just 2WD and Auto. Anyway, I have tried everything I can think of to try and free whatever seems to be locked up (brakes?) or transmission without success. Seems to operate smoother in Auto Mode than 2WD but still not quite right. After test driving it a little more and stopping at store I now hear a loud click everytime I step on the brakes when in park but not in any other gear. Sounds like it's coming from underneath glove box and continues everytime I step on the brake in park. Have never heard that clicking noise before now. Does anyone have any ideas? Is it possible that the PF is in 4WD even though all indicators show otherwise? I do hear a pretty strong thump when switching from 4HI to Auto and I thought I heard same thump when switching from Auto to 2WD. I sure appreciate this forum and have learned a lot from reading it. It's very obvious that I am now a member of an elite club of very quality people. I appreciate any and all feedback regarding this somewhat frustrating development. TIA Steve
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    That click you hear when stepping on the brake in park is normal...that's the interlock that prevents you from shifting out of park without the brake being on...was always there, you just never noticed it (funny how much you start noticing when something goes wrong).

    I have no clue as to your other problem...are your 4WD dash lights showing correctly what mode you're in? Hopefully someone else has some info for you.
  • Hi! Recently (2 weeks - 854 miles) I became the proud owner of a 2001 PF LE. Everything was going great until tonight. On the way home from picking up my son, I had the sensation that the steering was a little more difficult and a bogged down sensation. Almost like parking brake was on but not quite that severe. Got out and checked all the tires which were fine. Began to feel like maybe I was in 4 wheel drive although I had not changed modes and in fact until this evening hadn't even shifted into 4 HI or LO. Just 2WD and Auto. Anyway, I have tried everything I can think of to try and free whatever seems to be locked up (brakes?) or transmission without success. Seems to operate smoother in Auto Mode than 2WD but still not quite right. After test driving it a little more and stopping at store I now hear a loud click everytime I step on the brakes when in park but not in any other gear. Sounds like it's coming from underneath glove box and continues everytime I step on the brake in park. Have never heard that clicking noise before now. Does anyone have any ideas? Is it possible that the PF is in 4WD even though all indicators show otherwise? I do hear a pretty strong thump when switching from 4HI to Auto and I thought I heard same thump when switching from Auto to 2WD. I sure appreciate this forum and have learned a lot from reading it. It's very obvious that I am now a member of an elite club of very quality people. I appreciate any and all feedback regarding this somewhat frustrating development. TIA Steve
  • loboyloboy Posts: 75
    I think the sound you hear when pressing on the brake while in park is the mechanism disengaging so you can shift the lever out of park. If you notice you can't shift out of park unless the brakes are pressed. I have a 2001 LE and it does the same. It is a little loud but I think its normal. Have you ever moved out of "P" without pressing on the brake?

    In regards to the noise when switching between the modes, mine has a very slight "thump" if at all. As with bogged down sensation with the wheel, I'm not sure what to say. Other thoughts out there?
  • rcsuttonrcsutton Posts: 35
    I don't have a key problem yet, but I would like a spare. I went to "Nissan Auto Parts Online" (https://secure.sneplanet.com/nissan/catalogue.htm) and they have a "Remote Key fob" for $66.45. If I bought it would it work? or would all of my key's have to be reprogrammed or just one? can you have 3 keys programmed? I've really confused myself now. Would I save any money?
    Bob
    S.Fl
  • Has anybody with the Nav system purchased additional areas yet? Please let me know if anybody has MCA7 and MCA8. They are both for the northeast portion of the country. I have MCA6 but it does not cover everything I was hoping it would. If anybody has those CD's please e-mail me.

    milgrad@bellatlantic.net
  • selight2selight2 Posts: 9
    My local dealer (in NY)is offering a special deal called VPP for certain corporations, including $500 cash back and 3.9% financing:

    2001 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4X4
    Automatic
    Floor Mats
    In-Cabin Micro Filter
    Body Color Side Molding
    With Delivery, Ad fees, Destination
    $27,656
    Is this a good deal?
  • Dennis1950, and smokey75. Really appreciate your comments and information. I will
    read the FAQ and get better informed on the LE and SE choices. The O1 PF LE
    sahara beige was listed for 32,789 here in Lexington.

    Any Idea what Environmental Protection (198$), and Interior Protection (198$) are for?
    Also added was 99$ for pinstriping, I'm sure!

    Anyway, thanks again, will let you know what I come up with.
  • smokey75smokey75 Posts: 434
    Hey, about the Environmental Protection & Interior Protection you spoke of... refuse to pay for them. The Environmental Protection is not needed. It is used by dealers for profit only. Vehicles come from the factory with an undercoat & rust proofing. Dealers sometimes even use an underbody spray that can clog drain holes & CAUSE rusting. The Interior Protection is nothing more than a $5 dollar can of Scotch-Guard. Ask them to see a vehicle having Interior Protection applied & you decide if it's worth $198. I don't really like pinstriping, but even if you do, $99 is greatly inflated. Good luck
  • tonychrystonychrys Posts: 1,310
    rcsutton Mar 8, 2001 6:07pm

    Once you have the spare fob you should be able to go back to the dealer to have it reprogrammed. But I can't be 100% sure whether it is the fob or the car that has to be reprogrammed, so you raise a good point. Why not just call your dealer and ask???
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    rcsutton,
    Note that the remote fob and the actual key are two separate things. The remote locks/unlocks the vehicle and is part of the alarm system. The key is part of the immobilizer system. They are programmed independently. Only the dealer can program additional keys. You or the dealer can program additional remotes. Here's how to do it (instructions for 2001; may be the same for other years):
    1) Get in vehicle and close all doors.
    2) Insert and remove key from ignition more than 6 times within 10 seconds (hazard lights will flash twice).
    3) Insert key again and turn to ACC position.
    4) Push any button on new remote once (hazard lights will flash twice). At this time the oldest code is erased and the new code is entered.
    5) To program additional remotes (maximum of four), lock the driver's side door (unlock first if it's locked) with the LH door switch, and then go to step 4.,
    6) Open driver's side door

    -Jon
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    I promised I'd write a quick note about a Hyundai Santa Fe and the Pathfinder from the car show. Well, honestly I've stalled for two days trying to figure out how to compare the two. On paper the SF is just barely smaller in most dimensions, but in person it feels much smaller (especially inside). And it had nowhere the nice feel as the Path does. Driving position, quality of materials and controls just didn't match up. The seats drove me out right away - it felt like sitting on a cardboard box. And of course I couldn't drive it (75% of the experience, right?).

    But everything I read about the SF says it's a great vehicle and a good value. In the Car and Driver "teeny SUV" article last month (Mar) it finished 6th of 11 with the pluses listed as nice powertrain, good ride, lots of room, and value. But it was being compared against the CR-V, RAV4, Sportage, Cherokee, and Xterra among others.

    So (being out of time this week) I'll leave this comparison as "an exercise for the student". But if the difference is only a few thousand it would be very hard to convince me it was a better value than the Path. If it's a huge difference, it just might be the ticket.

    -Jon
  • bgritzbgritz Posts: 139
    I added a tubular DrawTite classIII and a T-Harness in less than two hours, and less than $200. No drilling was required, and it wasn't to bad adding the new wiring under the rear panels.
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    Ok...I've had enough. What the heck does FOB stand for (as in keyless FOB, remote FOB, etc.) Is it an acronym? What?
  • tonychrystonychrys Posts: 1,310
    It's a key fob, plain and simple. The modern usage of fob is derived from definition #2 below. You know, that free dealer advertising that your keys are attached to. But with keyless entry, the remote unit is the main fob on your key chain.

    From the dictionary:

    1. A short chain or ribbon attached to a pocket watch and worn hanging in front of the vest or waist.
    2. An ornament or seal attached to such a chain or ribbon.
  • pathstarpathstar Posts: 201
    Nissan Canada Leasing is nuts (unless they know I'm on this list...hmmm). I just bought out my lease (2001 LE). They send me a glossy brochure notice of $500 (Can.) cash back if you buy a Pathfinder or Xterra now. Anyway, for those of you thinking of buying in Canada, the price just dropped another $500 Can. ($333.33 US). That's the first and last time I lease a vehicle. I wasn't comfortable driving something I didn't own, and the required insurance was ridiculous.
  • I've got MCA1 and will have MCA7 when I pick up my Pathfinder tomorrow!!! (yeeha!). I too would love to have a chat with anyone who might have Navigation CDs other than #1 or #7. Of particular interest to me is MCA2. E-mail me if you'd like to talk about this...

    Captain Ron. . .

    ron.chase@internetmachines.com
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    thanks, Tony...jeez, it was an even dumber question than I thought...I didn't think it was a word so I didn't even look it up!

    Well, I'll be glad I have 4WD tonite...heading upstate NY where there's been a couple of feet of snow this past week and I hear it's still snowing now.
  • smokey75smokey75 Posts: 434
    Hey, still wondering if anyone can tell me what brand, type, & size tire comes on the 01 PF LE. Also, has anyone found the service manual cheaper than www.nissan-techinfo.com? Thanks...
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    smokey75,
    I have the 2001 Path shop manual on CD. Don't know of another source. But it's a very complete set. Over 2500 pages in .pdf format. Email me if you'd like to discuss or have questions.
    -Jon
    jonlofquist@aol.com
  • danogdanog Posts: 318
    Has there been any mention on how to see all responses so you can search for specific words on the page? I really wasn't sure I had seen it mentioned and would like to be able to without having to go back 20 messages at a time!
    Thanks,
    Dano
  • tonychrystonychrys Posts: 1,310
    Enjoy the ride!
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    The "see all messages" feature in the previous message board software will no longer be offered. However, we are working on an all new search feature that will hopefully make up for its lost; it too will hopefully be out soon.

    Thanks for you patience.
  • stvchangstvchang Posts: 10
    SELIGHT2- that's a pretty good price. Which dealer in NY is offering that price?

    Steve
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    Well, got up to snow country tonite and saw that the dirt road up to the house was not plowed...there was about 8-10" of powder and one vehicle track had gone before me...zig-zaging up indicating the trouble they had. I switched in 4 LO...and went up the hill smooth as silk...then the driveway..curving up and even steeper...no problem at all. I have the Dunlop Grand Treks...even though they are not 'snow tires' they were more than up to the task.

    Tomorrow I'll go to the lake parking lot and do some testing of AWD & 4WD in the really deep stuff :-).

    Tom
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