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  • I own a 97 SE it has 56k on it
    A while back, over a year by now I got a service campaign bulletin from Nissan
    regarding " a miner noise involving the exhaust manifold, and/or corrosion/rattles involving the main muffler and post muffler assembly"
    The bulletin goes on to say the the warranty on the exhaust manifold is extended to 100 months /100k and main muffler and post muffleer assembly extended to 60 months/60k

    At the time I did not have any of these problems so I just filed it away
    Since then the heat shield on the muffler has corroded and now vibrates against body sheet metal, so I plan on using this bulletin to get it fixed by Nissan

    The bulletin does reference "some 1996-1998 Pathfinders"
    So everyone with those years should check their mufflers for corrosion
    Hopefully your still covered under the extended warranty
    My warranty ran out at 36k so I'm glad I remembered the bulletin

    I changed my Bridgestone Dueler HT's at 50k
    Replaced them with Dueler HL's so for so good
    The HL's are better in the rain and somewhat quieter

    The truck has been great my third Pathfinder ( 87',92',97')
    I have been told I will need front struts soon as well as brakes
    which are making some horrendous noises
    Can't wait to get an 01' or 02'
    I will post my experience with muffler fix
    William
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    scraff,
    Sure, I'm all for working on a better price anytime. Another few hundred dollars is always nice. They do have the 3% holdback to work with. I can't get a good feel for the out-the-door price because I don't know what your tax or reg costs are.

    Just be sure to understand right away if they are going to hit you with some baloney doc or advertising fees. No matter what they say these are just profit builders.

    But then again I'm out of practice since I bought my PF in 5 minutes on the phone from Canada. No phoney fees either.

    -Jon
  • The price you were quoted by the dealer seems too high. The invoice price for the LE and all the options that you selected is as follows:

    LE AWD - Bronzed Gray $28,910
    floor mats 58
    body side molding 73
    microfilter 38
    limited slip 216
    splash guards ~50
    ----------------------------------
    Invoice + options $29,345

    At $30, 990 quoted price you would be paying approximately $1,645 over invoice before tax, tags, destination charge and any other fees.

    I believe many people are buying their Pathfinders at couple hundred dollars over invoice. I have also seen dealer ads in the newspaper advertising loaded LEs (less Nav and Entertainment) for $3,500 under MSRP, which would put it at $154 under invoice.

    I would try to negotiate a better deal. Good luck.
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    Thanks marger, I completely missed that scraff did not mention leather seats in his list. Yes, that price is WAY too high if it has no leather!!

    Now on the other hand with leather the invoice goes up another $1734 and it would have been a pretty good deal.

    Sorry again. I'm getting so used to pricing the Canadian LE's that come standard with leather.

    -Jon
  • Guys,

    Its an LE AWD with Leather and all the other trimmings I mentioned earlier. After further research, learning about the 3% dealer holdback, I gotta be able to do better then that initial price. Looks they are working me on an $1100 profit the way I figure. Am I wrong? Crazy in the head?? Someone slap me! ;)
  • oh.....tax is 5% and tags are $130. So I'm looking at $31,510 w / o tax and tags. Wish Canada was closer to Maryland!
  • The canadian deal really looks good. Does it also apply to used cars?
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    scraff,
    In my experiences dealers usually start to whine big time when you talk about cutting into their holdback. I say, so what! Negotiate them down as hard as possible. But get the other fees outta their first so they don't try to get more money from you later.

    And so what that Maryland isn't right next door to Canada? I know TWO people from Maryland that have gone to Toronto and driven home to save a few thousand. $225 for a plane ticket, and a day to drive back.

    -Jon
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    wvilca,
    Saving money from Canada can also apply to used cars, but it's not so easy. With a new car, you have a fixed item. Make a deal on the phone in a couple minutes. But don't you really want to see a used item first? Much more difficult to establish condition and price.

    My opinion is to go for the new, know what you are getting, and save the big bucks too. But I realize that not everyone may have the budget for this.

    I see '99 Pathfinders in the paper all the time for about the same price as a new 2001 from Canada!

    -Jon
  • Sorry about the typo. Previous post should have read re:#161, not 165.
  • mbuntingmbunting Posts: 158
    I'm also looking at the Pathfinder LE AWD in the Baltimore, MD area. Where are you looking?

    You might try Carmax, located in White Marsh
    www.carmax.com

    But here is who I've been in contact with over the last 2-3 weeks:

    Carmax: I almost bought one 3 days ago (from overseas, sight unseen) for $31998, with Leather, Side Moldings, Sunroof wind deflector and it also had the Nissan Mobile Ent. System. It did not have Limited Slip, Microfilter, or the Tow Hitch.

    Bob Bell Nissan told me he would beat any price I got. Actually, they told me this twice.

    Security Nissan has been hard to deal with, via email anyway.

    Route 40 Nissan accepted my offer of $31,600 for a Loaded PF LE with every option minus the Nav and Ent System.

    Those are my findings in the Baltimore area, I still have another 2-3 weeks before I'll be statside and will be purchasing then. I'm just undecided on color.

    Let me know if you have any questions...good luck..and please inform me of any other contacts with Baltimore area Nissan dealers if I have missed them. Thanks.
  • pat01pat01 Posts: 23
    If I were you, I would take $250 off the current price and see if they will bite. I especially like the idea of printing out the data from greenlight.com and telling them that you can always get your car from them. You don't necessarily need to show them this data. Good luck!
  • pat01pat01 Posts: 23
    To Scraff and others,

    I just looked at the dealer incentives listed for 12/1/00 through 12/20/00 (see www.edmunds.com/edweb/Incentives.html) and it would appear that there is a current $500 dealer incentive on the 2001 Pathfinder. You might consider your dealer's profit margin just went up $500!! if you accept your current deal.
  • mbuntingmbunting Posts: 158
    First off...let me start by thanking each and every individual that frequents this topic on edmunds.com!! The amount of information that I have gained from you all is invaluable to me and I probably would not be on the market for a 2001 Pathfinder LE if it wasn't for all the positive feedback found here.

    Now, on with my dilemma...

    What I'm looking at:

    2001 Nissan Pathfinder LE AWD
    (Sierra Silver) Invoice: $31,799

    Leather package ($1,734)
    Floor Mats ($58)
    Sunroof Wind Deflector ($42)
    Body Color Side Moldings ($73)
    Mobile Entertainment System ($1,126)

    TOTAL INVOICE COST: $34,832

    My price is going to be $31,998 out the door (+ Tax,Title, and Tags)

    This is from the CarMax Nissan dealership in White Marsh, Maryland.

    My main worry is: I am currently overseas (as many of you know already) and won't be able to pick up/see the vehicle until January 5th or 6th at best.

    So, If I decide to buy today, I'm going to call the salesman that I have been dealing with and he will then have me fax a copy of my Drivers Liscense, a copy of my "sight draft" from my bank (USAA) where my loan is from, and a copy of my personal check for the down payment amount.

    He then will hold the vehicle in a special place at the dealership (where it can't be test-driven or touched) until I arrive in January and he may even be able to have it at the airport (BWI) all ready to go when I fly in on the 5th of January.

    Does all this sound good so far?

    What I'm going to do to hopefully avoid any problems:

    I'm going to have him fax me a copy of all the options that are on this vehicle along with the agreed price ($31,998), and have him sign it.

    After receiving his fax listing the options and the agreed price, I will then call my bank and have them send/release payment of the "sight draft" payable to CarMax and then I will mail payment in full via registered/certified mail to CarMax.

    I want to act now, for 2 reasons: My wife really wants the Nissan Mobile Ent. System (so do I though) and the other is because of the color: Sierra Silver, which is exactly want we want.

    The only option i wish it had is the Limited Slip. But I have decided that I can live without it now.

    How does all this look guys? Any chance I can get burned by doing it this way? I have talked with the salesman at CarMax more than 4 times already and he seems pretty believeable, and I think I could put my trust with him today without even seeing him yet! So, I feel pretty comfortable.

    I just wanted to post all this to be safe. If anyone sees anything wrong or has any information or comments for me, by all means: Please let me know qas soon as you can!

    Thanks!
  • I would be careful buying a car You haven't driven yet. Some of the PFs have a shimmy at highway speeds. Granted these are few in number, but if your luck is like mine there is a SS PF with the ent system sitting in MD with a shimmy waiting to greet you off the plane. My PF had a hint of the "shimmy" when new, but it has disappeared making me more assured it was a tire wear problem. If you feel compelled to buy as you describe above, I would have a right of refusal added to the purchase contract. If you arrive and find the PF has a problem of any kind then you could cancel the deal.
  • bh9bh9 Posts: 1
    Has anyone noted any maintenance difficulties with the 2001 pathfinder or new 3.5L engine? (Such as access to the plugs, oil filter etc)
    Does the rear window air deflector reduce the dust and/or grime build-up on the back or liftback? Does it add any wind noise?
  • The only thing that I have done so far was change the oil on the VQ35 motor. The filter is at the front of the motor. It is angled forward and down @ about a 45 deg angle. The get to it, you have to remove a guard which is from the back of the bumper to the front of the engine (is this where the real skid plate goes???). There are a few bolts and one plastic clip to remove (IIRC). After that, it is a cinch to do the rest. That protective cover only adds 5 mins to the oil change. As for the plugs, I guess I will post back here when the truck reaches somewhere in the 60K to 100K miles range. :-)

    I haven't had a chance to wash my truck in two weeks! :-( And the back is pretty dirty. It would actually say that is it the dirtiest part of the truck. The good thing is that the truck sits in a garage all week though so no one sees it! :-)

    YMMV
    cheers!
  • Did any one get skip plates for their Pathy? Which parts of the undercarriage do they covers?

    thanks
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    ...until you actually see and drive the vehicle. market data shows that car sales are slowing down and more incentives are going to come the consumer's way.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    did you have to raise the PF to do the oil change? Or was the clearance high enough that you do not need to "jack" it up?
  • Oil change is very easy once you remove the plastic cover. There is even a little spout attachment under where the filter goes to try and catch all of the oil that drips down during changing to keep things clean. There is enough clearance to get under the vehicle without jacking. One of the easiest vehicle to change the oil filter on in my opinion.
  • I just changed all of the bulbs in my 01 PF LE. I put the PIAA H4 plasmas in the headlights. Fast and easy installation about 5 minutes per light. Net result - a little bit brighter than stock. Has the blueish Xenon-like look. All in all, a questionable upgrade at a cost of $60.

    I also changed the foglights to H3 PIAA Platinum. I stayed with the 55 watt bulbs. PIAA does have an H3 light of 85 watts available. Net result - TONS brighter than stock!! A 100% worthwhile improvement at a cost $42. Took a little longer than the headlights to install but still very easy. About 20 minutes per light, most of which is trying to figure out how to get the black plastic piece off without scratching it. The fog lights do get a little warmer than stock but I do not think it is anything to worry about as the housing is all glass.
  • Yes. I had to jack it but the front right tyre never left the floor. I am not a small guy (6'2" 235) and I use a creeper (no sense in getting dirty) so YMMV.

    I used a 2.5 ton hydraulic jack to raise the truck. There are good jacking points right there on the frame. Nice!

    hopes this helps.
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    I am not as big a guy as nismofreak, and I had no trouble getting under to change the oil without jacking it up. No creeper though either. As was said, filter access is very easy. Only surprise I had was how little the filter is. Even my smallest filter wrench was too big.
    -Jon
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    poswald wrote:
    >> About 20 minutes per light, most of which is trying to figure out how to get the black plastic piece off without scratching it. <<

    OK, I give. What is the solution? The shop manual is a little vague here.

    -Jon
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    Thanks for your feedback, guys.

    poswald: i, too, would be interested in the step-by-step of removing the black plastic without scratching. looks like it is worthwhile replacing the fog light bulbs.
  • The problem here is that the plastic piece is very soft and easily scratched if you just brute force pry it off with a screwdriver. I am usually anal about this kind of stuff.

    What I found to work best is to stick your fingers into the little space between the bulb and the plastic piece and to then push away and out (towards you) from the glass assembly to try and make this gap as big as possible. Then have someone you trust, stick a small screwdriver (covered with a rag or something) in between this gap to gently pry it away until it pops off. The only thing holding the cover on is two little nips (what you are prying off)located on the lamp assembly side about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way down from vertical. Initially I was confused because I did not know which side of teh cover and where I should be prying. Hope this makes sense.
  • mbuntingmbunting Posts: 158
    Jon- I left off the freight charge of $520 because CarMax doesn't charge any dest./freight charge, but I should have listed it like you said. ALSO: Thanks for catching my mistake on the Invoice vs. LIST price I mentioned in my last post. I've been crunching numbers and I surely just read it wrong when I went to list it all. Again, thanks.

    Sanandton & Crikey-
    I hear what you are both saying and it does make sense. Just wait. I guess the main reason I wanted to act today was because I'm afraid the $500 Incentive that's available now on the 01' PF would be gone come January. But after hearing your guy's points and discussing it again with my wife here today, we have in fact decided to wait.

    Sure, saving $500 would be great......but paying $500 more in a few weeks (if indeed the incentive goes away like reported on Dec. 20th) and getting a PF with no shimmy or any other problems, and after being able to test-drive it is what I should do!

    I'm sure I could do the deal today with no problems, but the benefits of waiting another few weeks far outweigh the problems I could get into if I bought today.

    Again, many thanks to all the help I have gotten today. Please keep me on the straight & narrow path over these next 2 weeks!!!
  • Incidentally, once you get the black plastic cover off. There are two 10 mm bolts that hold the foglight assembly on. You remove these and the entire assembly easily comes out. There is a rubber seal that you 1/4 twist in the correct direction to get it off of the lamp assembly(it is labeled with arrows). Inside of the rubber seal are 2 wires (a black and a white) connected to the fog light bulb itself. You easily pull the two wires off and can now remove the foglight assembly from the truck entirely. Once you have it out there is a tensioned wire, similar to the headlight that you push down and flip and the bulb comes out easily. Replace the bulb (careful not to touch the bulb itself), redo the wire tension thing, reconnect the wires (one is male and one is female so you can not screw up), put the asembly back into the truck and put the 2 bolts back in. Push the plastic cover piece back on and your done.
  • smithmdsmithmd Posts: 167
    Has anyone put slightly larger tires on their '99.5 or newer Pathfinder? I'm wondering if anyone has any experiences on what would fit with out rubbing. I don't want to alter the suspension at all, but I would like to put a little more rubber on the trail. I'd also like to stick with the stock wheels.

    Thanks.
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