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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier

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  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    I get no more than 12 mpg in city driving. I tend to push the ml so the numbers I get are pretty low. On highway, it's definetly much better. I took a road trip in the summer and just below the 60mph limit in some parts, (i was forced to after getting a damn speeding ticket at the beginning of the trip), I think got something like 19 mpg.

    dt77
    ml430 7k +
    http://fullspeed.to/ml
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Mike:
    I drive similarly in the city (but don't downshift) and try to coast as much as possible. It's hard to use smooth acceleration in Boston...everyone seems to be impatient around here. :-P
    I've been using the trip computer for estimates and I've heard it's a bit conservative in its numbers.

    dt77:
    Your mileage seems right for a ML430.
  • rich96rich96 Posts: 37
    Anybody know where I can get a Presentation Guide for the M-class? This is what salesmen are given to learn about the car in order to teach potential buyers about the features. Much more detailed than a brochure. There's one listed on e-bay, but that's for the 1999 M-class. I don't know if this is something a dealer would sell.
  • For those on the fence of an SUV see the carpoint reviews.

    ML rated number One :)http://carpoint.msn.com/Browse/win_4019327.asp
  • msotomsoto Posts: 2
    To you recent MDX owners, did you happen to compare it with the Lexus RX300 and/or Acura MDX? If so, what are your thoughts? Thanks o' bunch.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    msoto:
    I didn't want to post this during the holidays, but have a look at the results of an RX300 rollover.
  • nikorrnikorr Posts: 23
    sorry , that is a mystake MARCEL
  • As recommended by many of you, I am planning to have the oil in my 2000 ML320 changed to Mobil 1 when the mileage reaches 5000 tomorrow. Also as recommended, I want to buy the oil myself at a discount store to save money. The local Trak Auto store has on the shelf two grades of Mobil 1, 5W40 and 10W40. A service rep at the dealership, Euromotor Cars in Bethesda, MD (near Washington DC) says that their shop uses 15W40. To make things more confusing, the brochure on Mobil 1 oil from Mobil shows photos of only 0W40. The Mercedes booklet on factory-approved service products has a table showing that the lower temperature limits of 15W40, 10W40, 5W40, and 0W40 oil (in general) are +5, +4, -13, and -13 and below, degrees F, respectively. It would seem to me that 5W40 would be a better choice than 10W40 or 15W40. What grade of Mobil 1 are you folks out there using?

    This may have been discussed in earlier times on this M-class newsgroup, but it appears that the parts before part 19 are no longer accessible on line. Is that true?
  • My '00ML320 gets about 17 in city and I have seen as much as 23 on the freeway (cruising at nearly 80MPH. Like Mike, I go easy on starts (mostly), and don't race up to wait at a red light, but I do drive fast when I can do so safely.

    Mike, I don't think it's a good idea to shift down when coming to a stop. Your transmission and drivetrain are rather complex pieces of machinery, and downshifting and allowing the engine to brake the heavy vehicle puts unnessessary strain on its components. You will wear your brakes faster, but they are much cheaper and easier to repair/replace.

    Just my two-cents worth....
  • nikorrnikorr Posts: 23
    sorry , that is a mystake MARCEL
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    waldstein:
    Have a browse through the M-Class Mailing List Archives.
    I like the 5W50, but it's only sold in Europe and Canada :-P
    In the Boston area a 5W or 0W is better than a 10W because of our cold winters.
  • sshowittsshowitt Posts: 137
    Has anyone replaced their stock center caps with the blue and silver mercedes center caps, as seen on the slk wheels? They also make a black and silver center cap, somewhere in the 2001 ML brochure, I think on the ML55 page I saw it. They list for $17.00 each, Clair sells them for $14.00 each. Unfortunately, you have to pull the wheel to install them. Anyone offhand know the torque of the wheel lugs?
  • pooliopoolio Posts: 18
    Hi
    I have a ML 320 ,Changed the oil at 5000 mi.
    Put Mobil 1 10-30 and have had no problems .
    I live in PA and the winters are pretty bad,Guess it all depends on where you live and how severe the winters are.
  • i enjoy reading the postings so much..that i take notes of the tips that you guys gave..(i usually don't take notes at a meeting..just wait for somebody to email the recap)
    anyway, i'll be picking up my 01 ml320 tomorrow.. and i'm so excited. this is my first mb.. (my dad is an mb fanatic.. he never let me drive his cars though..)
    the thing is.. it's just started snowing again today.. can't mother nature wait till tomorrow?? =)
    well.. i'm hoping to get some knowledge from you all.. it's good to have second opinion...
    thanks much...
  • bob259bob259 Posts: 280
    I live in upstate NY and use Mobil 1 5w30 in the MB and 10w30 in our Volvo. The Volvo with the Turbo calls for the 10w30.
  • OK all you wizards and MB experts.
    Was asked a question the other day by someone and I didn't have the faintest idea what the answer was.
    Do the letter designations on the different MB's have any special meaning? E class, S class, ML, SLK,etc. It's obvious what 320, 430, & 55 means.
  • ...think coaxial...
  • ...if you're thinking of putting in Mobil1, as far as I can tell, virtually, all of the viscosities have been recommended by knowledgeable sources. High performance engines use heavier viscosities like 15-50. Some consider Mercedes engines high-performance, and thus use 15-50. Others live in cold-weather country and recommend 0w-30. Of course, Mobil1's 0w flows at minus 62 fahrenheit, but before you write off 5w, or 10w, or 15w, note that Mobil1's 15w is rated to flow at something like minus 39 fahrenheit. Is that good enough protection for you? Others note that oil mfrs use viscosity enhancers to extend the viscosity range, thus a wider viscosity range means more enhancers, less oil. Those people recommend using the narrowest viscosity range. Having read all of those arguments, I honestly believe, you can't go wrong with any of Mobil1's offerings. Personally, I use 10w-30.
  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
    HEY STEVAL, It happened on mine too.. I have 11,200 miles and while I'm driving to work suddenly that amber light flash on my eye, its kind a scary at first then when I get home I read the manual and said if your battery went down to 10 volt it will comes on, but my battery is fine then I called my dealer and I have an appointment next week as well as my first oil change. The funny thing was they can not change the oil not until your FSS mileage reach below 1000 mile that was the service people told me, Since the MB will pay for it.. they set that policy. I end up driving my ML everyday to work to burn out a couple more hundred miles before my apt.
  • There is also two speakers on the outboard portion of the front seats (next to the electric seat adjustment.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    FYI, the ML's adaptive transmission will downshift and hold the gear to provide some engine braking when going down hills anyway. When coming down my hill, I leave it in 3rd or 4th gear and only touch the brakes when necessary to maintain a somewhat constant speed. Considering that MB designed the transmission for off-road (Low range + 1st gear) use, I don't think it will really hurt it. FWIW, at stoplights longer than 15-20 seconds, I shift into neutral and apply the parking brake.
  • Waldstein: This is for you, borrowed from another ML group.

    The following viscosities are listed for any temperature:
    0W30, 5W30, 0W40, 5W40, 5W50.

    Above minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit: 10W30, 10W40, 10W50, 10W60.

    Above 5 degrees Fahrenheit: 15W40, 15W50.

    Above 23 degrees Fahrenheit: 20W40 and 20W50.

    It says: "Select oil viscosity according to the lowest air temperature
    expected before the next oil change is due."

    This is valid for all Mercedes in North America, by the way.

    Choose to your liking :-)
    - --
    Wolf gang Henke
    http://www.whnet.com/4x4

    I use Amsoil 0-30 and have been advised that I should think of it as a straight 30 weight oil.

    Yet I can not go for more than 15K on an oil change, it just isn't in me to allow this modern technology sink in, if I were using dino oil, I would change it every 3K like I do in every other vehicle.

    Sydney6: Thanks for the heads up for the shifting/wear - I thought our transmission was built for that, thus the touch-o-matic shifting.

    You are correct, brakes are < transmissions, If there was not a seal on that I would transfer the tranny oil to synthetic also, I changed the gear oil to synthetic.

    In Maitland (Orlando FL) there are half a dozen 00 ML320's available.
  • Congratulations on the new Ride!

    Relish in the opportunity to use your vehicle in the snow, feeling safe with the opportunity to help stranded people on the road you have to yourself!

    Mike
  • Happy Holidays to All! Love reading your messages to each other--great entertainment and lots of new knowledge for me too!!! The ML in post 575 has a front Brush bar or something that looks like it is made from fiberglass or something as was painted to match black ML with two fog lights on it. Who makes that front bumper push bar or brush bar (whatever it is called) and where can it be gotten from in the us...Mercedes direct or claire's or who, who makes the fog lights on it and who would install this and anyone know the price. It is the nicest front bar I have ever seen--all others appear to be chrome or aluminum bars and this looks really custom. I love it. Please write back on forum or e-mail me at BEBEBOn 2000@cs.com. Thanks all for all your help. PS ordered my color coordinated running boards and fender flares from mb the other day and hubby got me mb's all weather mats with dead foot spot incvluded in the mat. Love it.....please help with info on custom push bar in #575. Thanks all. bon
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    bon2000:
    It's a Manik. www.manik.com
    Clair used to sell it. Lots of other places do as well.
    Hella and PIAA make fog lights that fit on it.
  • mlx52mlx52 Posts: 72
    I just saw the Primetime segment on rollovers and found it to be very interesting. However it made me think that ESP can not prevent all types of rollovers, such as ones that can occur when you take a corner much to quickly when the vehicle&#146;s wheels don&#146;t skid. And I began to think that if Mercedes included or offered their ABC technology, in conjunction with ESP there would be no chance that an M-Class could or would roll over. Does anyone know if Mercedes has plans to include this as an option?

    Jamie
  • With reference to my previous posting today (#607) and replies to it (particularly #617 and #621), I have found technical specs of various grades of Mobil 1 synthetic oil on the Mobil 1 Web site at http://www.mobil1.com/. One can find there data on specific gravity, pour point, flash point, viscosity, and pumpability (pumping) temperature limit. Data for the last variable are as follows:
    0W-30: -62 degrees F
    5W-30: -58 degrees F
    10W-30: -49 degrees F
    15W-50: -38 degrees F
    These numbers are much lower than the limits for conventional oils listed here previously by myself and Mike Staley. These data as well as the flash points and viscosities tend to confirm beetlebug62's point that any of the grades would seem to be satisfactory in all but the coldest climates. I'll get more perspective from the MB dealership's service staff tomorrow.
  • Sorry everyone, the spell checked changed everything before I could catch it!-

    S = Super
    E = Executive
    C = Compact
    SL = Sport Licht (sport light?)
    SLK = Sport Licht Kurz (sport light short?)
    CL = Coupe Luxury
    CLK = Coupe Luxury Kurz (short again?)
    ML = Multi-Purpose Luxury (I heard they added the "L" so as not to confuse the M-Class with BMW's "M" Motorsports division. That's why it's officially called the "M-Class," not the "ML-Class." At least they didn't call it the AAV320.)
  • Does anyone know why the M-Class does not use the SmartKey that the other, newer, classes have? Is it because they developed it too late? I thought the CLK (which has the SmartKey) was out around the same time, within 1 year or so.....

    -Angel
  • If one is willing to pay the one-time $1,000.00 special order charge, will M-B make an M-Class in Magma Red, Sunburst Yellow or Slate Blue? I thought getting exactly what you want ("for a reasonable charge") is part of the "Mercedes Experience." And no, I'm not talking about the Nasty Green designo color either.

    -Angel
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