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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier

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  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    I got a nick on my door too. That's what happens when I park in the parking structures are school. They don't have very big spaces. The nick i have barely covers 1.5 mm by 1.5 mm or about 1/8" by 1/8". tiny, but I saw it and a 'white stuff' is exposed. It actually looks like a tiny white spec on the door and I also have it on the doors side guard.

    dt77
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    I reported on here before that I noticed some clicking noise from the dash area and it seems some have reported the same thing and some have even fixed it. I will inspect and look into it when I get back to LA.

    When I was with my ML in LA, I had also isloated 'squeaking' which came from the driver's side rubber door seal with the door opening seals. Confirmed by sticking my finger in the gap with door closed and the noise it made was clearly replicated. Some of you may have heard noises you hate and maybe you can look there =)

    I miss my ML. =)
    dt77
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    Yup, as far as I know now, only waag makes the rear door guard for the ML. I almost got it a while ago, but decided to hold off. Also took a small poll on the old edmunds and majority favored not getting it. I think it still looks cool, and it definately protects the bumper. I've seen pics on the web with it on a silver ML too. But the guy acutally painted it to match his silver ML. I've also seen a black one with the rear guard.

    THe only thing I have about it is I wish it were more 'muscular' like the Manik A bar I have (it's pretty thick).

    The waag rear guard attaches with bolts - contrary to what I thought before : rear hitch attachment.

    dt77
    http://fullspeed.to/ml
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    "only waag makes the rear door guard for the ML..."

    sorry, i must be smokin crack. I meant rear bumper guard.

    dt77
  • sshowittsshowitt Posts: 137
    I hope I responded back to all who e-mailed me with information on discounted MB extended warranties. $1575.00 is a can't lose price for the premium M/B 4 yr. 50K mile warranty. It is transferrable and can be pro-rated for a refund of the unused portion. I put it on A/E and got mileage besides. BTW, a very good M-Class e-mail List Serve:
    owner-m-class@moab.off-road.com
    E-mail them at that address to subscibe.
  • howvoodhowvood Posts: 19
    I'd like to know where you purchased the extended warranty for $1575. I've been quoted around $2500. Anyone can e-mail me at howvood@hotmail.com
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    for those folks who are trying to get it at that price, don't mention where you got it from. Someone told their dealer once last year, then that dealer complained to MB who then came down on the dealer that's selling it for that price. Just mention that you can get it elsewhere at that price :-)
  • I live 70 miles from the nearest Mercedes-Benz dealer. Need a safe SUV that can tow 5000#. Reliability of MB ML 320 has been poor. What is the latest on reliability?
  • bob259bob259 Posts: 280
    tomnorris: Most of the poor ratings were based on early production (98/99) vehicles. There have been many improvements in the 2000/2001 MY vehicles and nothing major that I'm aware of.

    I have a MY00 ML320 with 7,000 miles and the only problem I experienced was a door actuator that didn't like the extreme cold temperatures (below 10 degrees (f)), but that was fixed and I'm trouble free again. I also tow a small boat and utility trailer with no problem. I had far more problems with my domestic cars then I experienced with my 'first' MB vehicle and I'm sold on their quality.

    If you need a safe SUV look no further, the ML is rated number 1 in safety for SUV's As I've said before, I normally buy a vehicle and start looking for something new in 6 months, as I get bored with them easily, not so with this vehicle. I see me keeping this one 4-5 years before swaping (my wife said she wants to see that before she believes it), I love this vehicle more each time I drive it.

    What ever your decision enjoy!!!
  • rover96rover96 Posts: 33
    Thor3

    Thanks for your time & the detail info. I set up an appointment with the dealer this coming Monday to go through all the minor stuff.

    Everything is minor except the rear end vibration when I do a sharp left or right turn from stop. I mention it to the dealer early on & he said is normal. I do not agree with him since I had a jeep & a land rover b4 and they didn't have this problem. But the dealer agree to check it out. My question is, is this a recall on this known problem or how can I force the dealer to fix the vibration problem?

    As of the extended warranty, I purchased the 5 yrs & up to 100k miles warranty form National Auto Care (I hope it's good) for $1500, Zero deductible. I hope it helps in the furture. Any one heard of the National Auto Care Company? Any good? Once again happy new year every 1. Thanks again Thor3
  • bob259bob259 Posts: 280
    Boy has the forum slowed down. Must be everyone is still tired from the holidays/vacation. It's gone from if you missed a day it takes two to get caught up, to you can miss two days and read it on one screen.

    Guess that's also good news and means we all are having few, if any, problems with our ML's
  • The power skyview top was the reason of purchasing the Ml 320 2000 last year ( My former car was a CLK 200 convertible, a good car but no room for a Newfound land Dog, so I'm used to a little bit more wind noise) No problems with the top after 30.000 km. We drive with open top almost every day during summer time (except for the German autobahn). In my opinion it's worth the extra money.

    Andrew de Jong, The Netherlands, Europe
  • I have a 2000 ML-430 and would really appreciate extended warranty discount information. I am discrete! My e-mail is jackh49@aol.com.

    Thanks.
  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    "I was telling you about the next generation of engines for amg cars. The new engines will be supercharged in the amg versions. All
    the current cars have the 5.5L V8 normally aspirated. They retain the 3v per
    cylinder. I got to ride in an ml55 before I came back here and it was pretty
    quick for such a heavy car."

    Robert
  • thor3thor3 Posts: 120
    Hello - Glad to hear that your bringing in your 1998 ML320 to establish a new owner maintenance/service record.

    To answer your question (is there a recall for the rear end lockup/gowning noise...) No there is no recall but it is a warranty item. Many dealers have replaced the differential with the newer version gear ratio that resolves said (NORMAL - NOT!!) binding. If your dealer is ignorant of this make him/her aware that you have been informed by other owners of same vehicle and that there was a fix which required the new gearing in the replacement units.

    As I said earlier - you need to make sure each and every complaint is documented - if they don't fix it or put "no problem found" you at least have it in writing for when it becomes an issue in the future.

    The rear end vibration/binding may be felt thru the steering wheel as well so you may want to add to your complaint that you feel the front binding as well... tell them it is hard to tell but it acts like a 4 wheel drive that has its hubs locked on dry pavement when turning sharply.

    You need to see the past warranty history so you know what has been done already. As I said earlier you need to know the problem areas that have been improved with new components... even if your vehicle is not demonstrating/experiencing a problem now but Mercedes has made newer components you need to complain to get new components... Just as I stated that the door latches have been upgraded a couple of times - even if your doors shut OK you may want the newer latches that have the "latest engineering." Same goes for fuel pump, fuel sender, suspension bushings, steering pump....

    Bottom line you need a dealer and a technician that wants to "look" for all of these mentioned changes and do the replacements. I've found two such dealers EuroMotorCars in Bethesda MD and AutoHaus MB in Pompano Beach FL... both have great Techs that will comb the ML over for such mods. It helps if you make the general comments on the repair order - such as - hear a high pitched whine on occasions from rear of vehicle... sounds like fuel pump... gas gauge reads inaccurate at times... may not read full when full or is inaccurate...

    There are many ways to make complaints to get MB Techs to look at and repair items because they already know MB has new parts for many of the mentioned items. Many times, the Techs will look at the complaints on the Repair Order and will immediately order the newest renditions. They will install them without documenting the actual complaint because they already know these are well documented ML problems and don't want to waist time trying to duplicate them. As long as MB has a newer part # that supersedes the one being replaced on your 1998 (pretty good chance of this) it will be no issue...

    This is why it is very important to read as many old posts on this and any other ML forum and write down the problems that you see reoccuring and then have the device Facility write these items down on the repair order. I guaranty that you will see new components placed on the vehicle. If not find another dealer or share with us where you are located and I'm sure someone will recommend the best dealer in your area.

    I have soo much more to say but can't keep typing but I hope you get my drift - MB owes it to you while under warranty to bring you vehicle up to the latest spec for each specific issue... you need to get this done prior to warranty expiration. The good news is if the dealer replaces something... such as door lock actuators and they fail again after warranty you may get Factory warranty coverage anyway due to a parts warranty within a specified period of time... so you have nothing to loose.... but get the old history so you know what has been done already - or at least was done once...serveral items have had several new fixes... just because a repair was done once does not mean you have the latest new parts. For example there have been at least 4 fuel level senders over the past 1.5 years....

    Good luck - Frank
  • thor3thor3 Posts: 120
    Hi - are you saying that the AMG ML55 may have a Supercharger for Model Year 2002...did you get a test drive in such or just a base ML55 as in current production..?

    Thanks - Frank

    This would sure be exciting if so.....
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Major droolage....any HP/Torque numbers? :-)
    It makes sense...look at the C32. Nice Lysholm supercharger...
  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    This is how it was explained to me:

    MB has higher torque/less HP than say a BMW because of the longer stroke and the 3 valves per cylinder. This was done (one of the reasons) to achieve ULEV emmissions status. MB is adding the supercharger to make up for the lost power.

    So what is going to result is more horsepower AND ULEV status. He said AMG accross the line will get the supercharger, so I am assuming the ML55 too. He said the NEXT version of the AMG engine. He did not say when this new engine would appear, 2002...03...04.
    Result: Environmentally friendly rockets.

    I didnt get to ride in the car nor did he, as it is not out yet. He did however drive the PT Turbo, which was quite nice.

    Robert
  • ji1ji1 Posts: 2
    Have a 18 month old 99 ML320 which has had repeated issues with the fuel sender and gas gauge. After three replacements and two actual fuel line ruptures my patience is gone. Any wisdom on how to resolve? Terrific vehicle otherwise, but eight service visits in four months is getting a little out of control.

    Thanks for your help.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Make sure you have the latest (part#168-470-11-94). That's the one that should not need replacement...
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