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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • birgerbirger Posts: 80

    by "removable" I mean just that. The ball part/drawbar (no jokes, please) is shaped more or less like an umbrella handle. It's inserted from below, after you remove the trim piece in the bumper. There's even another trim piece to fit when you use the drawbar. In normal use, this trim piece and the drawbar are stored in the right rear of the cargo area (below the CD changer). I'll see if tonight I get around to scan the relevant pages of the manual, which explains the system better than I do.

    On my T&C minivan, I had the Class 2 hitch below the bumper. You're right, Drew, it didn't offer much in the way of "urban protection", unless you left the drawbar in place.

  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Hope those of you in Seattle are okay...we definitely felt the 7.0 magnitude earthquake up here in Vancouver.

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  • jmcdowelljmcdowell Posts: 13
    Well, I had the UNIMOG bug a bit before and the discussion here made me look around the net-they are very available. Both the Swiss and German armies are getting rid of their gas-powered 'Mogs. I put down a deposit on a 404S troop carrier (read flatbed truck with a canvas cover) fully rebuilt by the German army for use in Bosnia. It was never used and was surplused. New bed, new tires, new tranny, remanufactured engine-everything to new specs. I am getting it for $9,500-delivered to the US. So for everyday, I'll use the ML320 and for the backcountry fun-the Unimog! I can't see how it will hurt to have basically a super-heavy duty pickup truck that will go places a Hummer can't for so cheap-and it is a Mercedes! Thanks for re-igniting the interest.--Jeff
  • markstlmarkstl Posts: 1
    Hi All!

    We test drove the 320 and 430 this past weekend. We have looked at the MDX and an X5 too, but she likes the ML 430 the most.

    The sales guy told us Sat. that he could give us a discount off the sticker of $1000. On Mon. he called us and he told my wife that he could increase the discount to $1650. The price on the sticker for this car is $52345. It's loaded w/almost all options.

    My question to you is: Is this in the ballpark of what you all had to pay? Enquiring minds want to know?

  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
    Do your homework first before you sign the contract. Did you know the invoice price of that ML430 if you don't its not to late to go to this site and check the invoice price, go to the new car section and click MB then click ml then click all the option you have on that ML you are looking for get the total then add 500.00 bucks and around 400.00 to 500.00 ad fee get the total again and that,s the good price for that vehicle. Good Luck.. its work for me.
  • wnielwniel Posts: 97
    pathdoc: I live in Laguna Niguel and have been using the dealership there for many years. In the past they have used the Enterprise Rentals for their loaners. I was just told that they are no longer using them as they are now using the new C class for loaners. With regard to service, I'm very pleased with the service and they have excellent service reps to deal with. It is a brand new facility that was just opened a couple of years ago where they moved across the freeway from their old one. I hope that this answers your questions regarding this dealership.
  • thor8thor8 Posts: 303
    Mark, I think that is a high price, I paid around 45k for my ML430. The only disadvantage that I see on the 430 over the 320 is that you will be a more frequent visitor to the gas station, and premium at that.
    Contratulations on your Unimog. A word of caution, be sure you are protected by having some kind of writen agreement in regards to the condition of the vehicle, there are some good guys and then some bad boys dealing with Unimogs.
    You will find out that Unimogs are adictive. You should look around in your area for an off-roading club, they are a good crowd, that likes to play rough with their toys like a bunch of kids and spend time outdoors, is a good clean pastime that the whole family will enjoy. I guess I should post a pic of my Moggs, but rigth now they are in pieces, going thru a complete restoration, hopefully it will be ready in a few months, I have my own shop at home and I enjoy working on it. My favorite Mogg is the 406, is compact, one inch shorter than my porsche, the best part is that although my moggs are 21 years old all the parts are available, all the way down to the rubber trim for the cab.

    In case anyone is interested I know of a 406 Mogg that can be had for 10k or less, the bad thing is that it needs work in the engine for lack of use and condensation damage and extensive cosmetic work for being out on the wheater for 20 years, the good thing is that it only has 68 miles. Definitely is a project for the mechanically inclined with the facilities but it all in all is a good deal, considering that a replacement today cost around 120K.
  • stevitzstevitz Posts: 2
    My wife would like a SUV. She has test driven a Jeep Grand Cherokee, Nissan Pathfinder, & Mazda Tribute. The Cherokee & Pathfinder didn't feel right. I saw some used M-class on-line. Is the 1999 ML430 with 30,000 miles for $35,000 a good deal? Any owners out there who can comment on reliability & performance? I've read alot of good things, but I'd like some more input-Thanks!
  • sandeckisandecki Posts: 29
    I have just receive my Front Grill Bar Style II for my 01 ML320. The instructions are not very detailed and it involves taking off the bumper etc. Do any of you know where I can get the instructions to take off the bumper etc and possibly for the whole install.
    Or maybe I should bring it to the dealer ha?

    Any suggestions welcome! thanks for your help!
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    My dealer at downtown LA loans out Cs first. Not sure exactly who owns them but they use Enterprise staff to manage the Cs. If all the Cs are used up, they tap into a wide range of other cars. From explorers, to the new Montero, to mercury sables. DTLA actually has a little enterprise booth in the dealer itself.

  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738

    Someone on the M-Class Mailing List just did this. You can see his posting on the E-scribe Archive.

    When you do your install, can you take digital pictures?

    BTW, what did it cost and did you get the skidplate, too?
  • bertram60bertram60 Posts: 113
    I just bought my wife a 2000 ML w/9,000 miles on it from a MB dealer (car was Starmarked) for $39,500. Car has Bose/Nav system, and sunroof. I contacted a friend who's a wholesaler and he just sold a '99 ML430 w/ 19k for $34,000 so you're not far off the mark. I would think that something closer to the 30 mark would be a good deal.

    If you're buying it privatley, and the truck is close by, see if the seller will allow you to take it to an MB dealer and have them go over the it prior to purchasing.

    There are also some online services that allow you to plug in the VIN to see if any insurance claims or major recalls have effected that truck. I'm sure someone on this site can recommend one of them.

    I also saw a service in Automobile magazine a couple of months ago that will go on site and give the truck a pretty good going over. I would also ask to see the service records, or find out what dealer has serviced the truck and go to the service manager to see if they can check the records.

    My experiences have been that sometimes people "forget" a few "minor" items that aren't discovered until it's too late. I would also go to your local MB dealer and look on their used lot. I stumbled onto mine as it was being driven onto the lot. Three others that were there all had been painted in various places, and had roughly the same price. After doing some checking (calling my friend), I was willing to pay a little more for the truck that was there as opposed to saving $1,000 at the auction and maybe having to wait for a few weeks to find one that was as clean as this one. Don't be afraid to haggle, the worst thing they can say is "You have a deal!" Good luck - randy
  • jmcdowelljmcdowell Posts: 13
    I bought this from Michael Carradine. The 406 sounds like a deal! I am still recovering from shock at buying one-can't imagine another yet.....Jeff
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    what "rocking" motion in the ML ? er. ya.

    have no clue what he's talking about.

    my baby don't do that.


  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    my service A is due soon. I want to confirms several things...
    1. oil change comes free it correct ? and synthetic mobil 1 will be used ?
    2. what else will be done on my ml ?

  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
    Here are some:
    Tire rotation, I did it myself coz. they will charge you for tire rotation as well as wheel balancing,if you want your wheel to balance. I didn't do that because my tire is look fine and its not rocking like what CNN said. Also if you have some other minor complaint, tell them, so they can do it at the same time, I had one minor, my back sit wasn't coming down/folding smoothly..just the driver side, they adjusted it, now is working fine.

    How many miles do you have now on your FSS? Because here in San Diego they won't change your oil not until your FSS reads less than 999 miles. They said thats the MB policy since they are the one who's paying.
  • ylanylan Posts: 2
    I decided to take my ML in for unschedule oil change (@5000miles). Since its not a regular interval neither schedule A or B, the dealer in Portland, Oregon is asking ~ $96.00 for oil change to mobil1. What is the price in other parts of the country? Just curiouse as to what 2000 models with all services being free really buys me.
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    is it a PY21W type ?

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