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2008 Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    I think I may take a test drive of new '09, but I don't get my hopes too high. Perhaps GTP will sway me, but I doubt it, too. Five years ago I would be extatic on that car - today I acknowledge the effort, but well - I dunno. New WRX will be great for what it is - a pocket rocket compact car, but I'm already in search for a car for grown-ups. I would easily let go a few (20-30) horses and totally sharp cornering for a better ambience and a few modern ammenities that Legacy GT offered (and some more that it doesn't). Leave the cladding, long springs and all-terrain tires in the factory and I would take it. If I had to pay extra for that, I might as well buy a car that was designed the right way from ground up in Munich. :sick:

    Now, my problem with WRX ('08 or '09) is its interior - not even remotely as nice as Legacy's. It's better made than my current '02 for sure, but it's still light years from Legacy/Outback. It's dull, unexciting, and plain downgrade if you consider that the car has a sticker close to 30K. Red stiching will put some make-up on it, but it won't solve the fundamentals. None of which is true for Legacy. Boy-racer tail lights don't help, either.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well can you blame subaru for getting out of the wagon market? Going up against the A4, 3-series and C or E class MB is a tough thing to do on a Subaru budget. Dodge even dropped the Magnum for 09, so the ranks of sporty wagons keep dropping every year. :(

    I love my wagon but I recognize that there just isn't enough of a user base to support it.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    I love my wagon but I recognize that there just isn't enough of a user base to support it

    Mike,

    I wonder if there are enough potential sales to support a 3 inch lowering kit for the Forester? :P

    Dave
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    or Outback ?

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I don't want a "cute ute" or a high center of gravity, plastic clad, off road pretender.

    So get a Forester, and lower it. ;)

    All the Impreza stuff bolts right on. My 1998 Forester had upgraded sway bars, strut tower brace, SPT short shift kit, you name it. Bolted right on.

    One bonus - you have TONS more room for wheel/tire choices.
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    Two problems:

    1. No manual transmission (on XT)
    2. Substantial extra cost. If you add cost of those upgrades to the XT, you could as well buy loaded A3 or stripped A4.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Aren't loaded A3s in the $35k range?

    An XT Limited with NAV lists for $30.6k. Sells for closer to 28-29k.

    Good point about the no-manual, though. Can't fix that with mods, either.
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    Yeah, perhaps not totally loaded A3, but it would already have a lot. They start around $26K, but options are expensive, indeed.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • Good point about the no-manual, though. Can't fix that with mods, either.

    Just what happens when you get bought by a company that hasn't had a fun to drive car since the 90s.

    Oh well, I wish them the best.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think the weak dollar/strong Euro combination has seriously eroded the value of German cars. If they were ever a strong value to begin with.

    I just went to the Audi Ultimate Drive event at Summit Point Raceway, and it was an absolute hoot. We drove fairly well loaded A4s with the Luxury package and the adjustable Dynamic/Comfort suspension. V6 Quattro models, of course.

    The scary part? Estimated list price was $48,000!

    Without the Sport package! None of the cars there had them, to be comparable with the Lexus IS250 AWD, M-B 300 4Matic, and BMW 328xi they had along for comparison. The Lexus was the cheapest of the bunch at just under $40k, but all the rest were $40k plus, and Audi was the most expensive, probably because they compared their upgraded engine with the base engine of the competition.

    I'm sure a 2.0T would be cheaper, but by how much? Still low $40s probably.

    It's insane.

    Even BMW, they bring out the 1 series, but all they really did was increase 3 series prices, and then price the 1 series where the 3 series used to be ($30-40 grand).

    You can get a 128i or a FWD A3 in the high $20s, but a well equipped 135 or A3 Quattro will run well up in to the 30s.

    For $48 grand you could buy two basic WRXs, or a loaded Forester XT Limited plus an Outback Sport for your kid.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I love my wagon but I recognize that there just isn't enough of a user base to support it

    Mike,

    I wonder if there are enough potential sales to support a 3 inch lowering kit for the Forester?

    Dave


    As juice said, you can put on a lowering kit for the forester and outback. JDM STi Pinks! That's what I'm doing on my LGT with my Konis. :) Heck coilovers run in the Sub $1k range these days and are somewhat streetable.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    Does anyone know where I can find the 2009 pricing and equipment specs?
  • subytrojansubytrojan Monterey Park, CaliforniaPosts: 28
    If you're looking for U.S. pricing and specs, Joe Spitz's site, www.cars101.com, should help.
  • Hello all.... I am new to subies and this forum, but are very interested in the WRX 09. Here are the offical prices for the WRX 09 and others. Remember there is a new destination price of $665 that is not included. These are the MSRP prices only. See 2nd link below from car101.com for other stuff and invoice.

    Does anyone know when they get released?

    2009 IMPREZA PRICING
    MODEL Standard Package Transmission Total Suggested
    Retail Price
    IMPREZA 4 DOOR
    2.5i 5MT $17,495
    2.5i 4AT-S $18,495
    2.5i Premium Premium Package 5MT $19,495
    2.5i Premium Premium Package 4AT-S $20,495
    2.5i Premium Navigation/ Satellite
    Radio Package 4AT-S $22,495
    2.5GT 4AT-S $26,995
    WRX 5MT $24,995
    WRX Premium 5MT $27,495
    WRX Premium Navigation/ Satellite
    Radio Package 5MT $29,495

    IMPREZA 5 DOOR
    2.5i 5MT $17,995
    2.5i 4AT-S $18,995
    2.5i Premium Premium Package 5MT $19,995
    2.5i Premium Premium Package 4AT-S $20,995
    2.5i Premium Navigation/ Satellite
    Radio Package 4AT-S $22,995
    Outback Sport 5MT $19,995
    Outback Sport 4AT-S $20,995
    2.5GT 4AT-S $27,495
    WRX 5MT $25,495
    WRX Premium 5MT $27,995
    WRX Premium Navigation/ Satellite
    Radio Package 5MT $29,995

    IMPREZA WRX STI
    WRX STI 6MT $34,995
    WRX STI BBS Package (Silver BBS) 6MT $36,995
    WRX STI BBS Package (Gold BBS) 6MT $36,995
    WRX STI BBS & Navigation Package
    (Silver BBS) 6MT $38,795
    WRX STI BBS & Navigation Package
    (Gold BBS) 6MT $38,795

    Link to Subaru Pricing for WRX 09
    cars101.com
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    For an MSRP of a little over $26K I can get a 5-door WRX with lots of interior room, and it will do 0-60 in 5.4 seconds?

    Dang. :surprise:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Interesting that the sedan costs less now. In the last generation the wagon was cheaper.
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    It was an anomaly. Wagons cost more to manufacture (more metal and less volume) and are always more expensive than sedans. Hatchbacks are sometimes less (Europe), but only when they are smaller than sedans and aimed to sell in larger volumes (Euro Astra, Golf/Jetta, Yaris, etc.).

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,128
    Actually, the new Impreza hatch is about 10" shorter than the sedan..

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  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    So anomaly again? ;)

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • I've called a few Subaru dealers and the salespeople say "60-90 days." Huh? It's september...
  • robm2robm2 Posts: 53
    Subaru (in Canada) has their 2009 Impreza pricing and specs up on their website, (subaru.ca)
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    My dealers say mid-to-late September, slow at first.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I was at my dealer yesterday and there were a number of '08's STI and WRX's left on the lot.

    I am not sure if that will impact delivery of the new models or not, but 08 has been a slow year for cars.
  • So I'm stuck on which to buy, an 09 wrx or an 08 sti.... I talked to a dealer and their quote is at $31K before tax and lic., this is with a $5k off the msrp. Does that sound like a good deal to anyone or you think it may get better once the 09 come in?
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,550
    It depends how much time you have. Subaru is always slow in supplying new cars at first, so for next few months dealers will play "hard to get" game on '09 WRX. Unless you have a deal like VIP, expect to pay close to the sticker. No incentives, not even discounted financing during that period. That's until all those excited people get their new and improved WRX and supplies eventually catch up with sales. 31K for STI seems like good deal, but only if you really want one. That monster power comes at price I'm not willing to pay (and I'm not talking about purchase price) - but that's a personal choice.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Not for Subaru - they've bucked the trend and sales are actually up.

    The Forester was up 73% last month over a year ago. The Impreza is made in the same plant so I'm sure demand for the Forester is squeezing the Impreza.
  • Cool thanks for the input. I do have VIP for Subaru so the WRX 09 is totally an option, but the STi seems sooooo tempting.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I got the '08 STI...not knowing there was the new improved '09 wrx model, but when shopping, I really wanted the wrx, but reading all the reviews pushed me into the '08 STI.

    I have been doing some good AM weekend driving the last few weeks and really enjoying it. I like this car a lot. I got the same, VIP Pricing, base STI, with factory short throw shifter installed.
  • 31k for a STI? Sounds like a fabulous deal to me.
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    So the Cdn Impreza spec for 2009 is out and it is different than the rumoured US changes. In Canada, the WRX is listed as two trims - 224hp in the base and 265hp in the WRX265. Both are MT only with the moonroof available only on the 265. So the GT auto is not listed as a model option here with the "WRX" (MT 224) taking its place. FWIW, pricing is very good too with the 265 less than the list on my 2004 2.0L.
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