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This may sound like a weird question, but I have a question about BMW X5 4.4's engine sound.
Maybe people who know alot about engines may answer this better:
Sometimes when the engine is running, I got out of the car, stand right infront of the engine, bring my ear close to engine compartment (with the hood is closed) and I listen the engine sound.
I do this when the engine is cold, when the engine is hot, when I first start the engine in the morning, when I first start the engine after not using it for couple of days.
The reason why I started to do this is that, sometimes I hear "extra" sounds coming from the engine compartment.
Sometimes I hear this but other times I don't. This sound is not loud. You need get really close to engine compartment.
Forexeample, I think I hear belt sound. But this is intermittent. Especially in the mornings I hear this belt sounds. To ask if this sound is normal, I took the vehicle to BMW dealer. They said that the engine sound was perfect. But I think when I was at the dealer the "extra" sound stopped.
This is a new car with only few thousand miles on it. Is this normal to hear little "extra" sounds from the engine from time to time? In the mornings? When the weather is so cold? Is there a correlation between the "belt" sounds or any other engine part sounds with the cold weather or hot weather, in the mornings when the temperature is low?
If you sit in or drive the vehicle you can not hear anything. My engine performance is great I think. In the mornings it starts excellent. My only concern is the little "different" sounds coming from the engine compartment from time to time when you stand close the engine and listen the engine sound carefully.
Does this happen to you? I just want to be sure, because this is an expensive vehicle and if there is something wrong with the engine and I am driving it, I may later have major problems. The the service says "ohhh! how could you drive this vehicle like this???, You should have brought it to us before. Now you have to pay $$$$$$ !! (Big smile on their faces when they say this.)"
But I did and they say there was no abnormal sound.
Please keep in mind that, when you are sitting in the vehicle (when the vehicle is standing or moving) I can not hear any abnormal sound. The engine sounds completely normal. But when I get out the car, get my ear close the engine compartment (with the hood is closed) SOMETIMES I can hear some "extra" sounds like (I think) belt sound. The engine sounds always sounds normal but sometimes I hear "extra" sounds. Is this something to do with the cold/hot weather? Cold start in the morning?
Thank you very much to all of you for your time.
Your answers are important to me.
John
:-)
The 20" wheels look great but I'll stay with the 4.4i and 19" wheels for a lot less money.
1) If I 'order from the factory' a X5 to be built based on my selected options and colors, about how long before it will be ready? Also, what kind of security deposit is required up front?
2) If I select to have my X5 built based on my preferences, can I still lease instead of buy? Also, can I 'lock in' the current lease rates in December even though the car may not be ready until Feb. or March?
3) I live in North Carolina, therefore can I drive to the X5 plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina to pick up my X5 rather than pay the $645 destination fee? $645 seems like an awful lot of profit for the dealer to drive a car from South Carolina to North Carolina.
4) Has anyone else on this board tried this 'order from the factory' option rather than purchased a vehicle that has already been built? IF so, did you get a better price closer to the invoice amount since the dealer didn't have to carry the inventory on his lot?
Thanks.
This months Car and Driver mag has a 2 page ad with a red 4.6is X5 in it. Great looking. The 4.4i has great power as it is, 50 more hp and 1" bigger tires are not worth the extra $16,000 to me. The 20" wheels don't look as sharp as the 19".
Be curious to see how it sells with that extra $6900 of pure profit. Vegas was built on on upping the other guy so I'll bet that 4.6is has already been sold. I saw it last Wednesday; went out of town for a 4 day weekend.
Oh, the M5 looks awesome!!!
For MMARINO, try Open Road BMW, thats who i went to. This is what they gave me without haggling or issues...(cheapest out of NJ dealers thus far)
x5 3.0
premium pkg, auto trans, xenon, cold weather pkg...42 months $550/month 0 down. $2,200 below MSRP. I can take delivery up til end of Feb. as long as paperwork processed before Dec. 31. As of today, normal delivery for custom order is within 4 weeks they say.
Dealer asked for $1,000 fully-refundable deposit.
Don't know about avoiding that delivery charge, i'm sure if u went to th plant, they'd still charge that $645 for driving it up to front parking lot from the assembly line.
In any case, if you've been seriously contemplating picking up one of these beasts...
I suggest everyone on the fence should jump on the bandwagon ASAP, rates will go up after 31st!!
IF anyone got a better deal, let me know!!! I haven't put down deposit yet so not too late to switch dealers!!!
THANKS, hope it helped!
With living so close to the Spartanburg, SC BMW factory(where the X5 is built), and looking to order an X5 rather than by a currently built one, I am in an advantagous position. I am about to send out a purchase request to every BMW dealer in the country for an 2002 X5 3.0i. Since I am doing all the work (researching, listing all options, picking up vehicle myself), I really don't even need a dealer, except to spend 5 minutes keying in my order on a computer screen. Therefore, I am only offering $500 over invoice for the vehicle, which seems like plenty of profit for 5 minutes of work. I wish that BMW had a web site to directly order the vehicle from the factory and skip the dealer 'middleman' entirely. Also, all correspondance can be handled via email, faxes or priorty mail. Also, the first dealer to respond will get my leasing business also (with $0 cap cost reduction).
BMW's lease rates are great now thru 12/31 and apply if ordered by 12/31. X5 was at least $150/ month less than Tahoe and Sequoia and about $200 less than ML. I looked at X5 in October and rates have dropped about $250.
I am looking for the same vehicle.
Where are you located?
Well I shopped for my X5 4.4i 3 months ago in Seattle area, bad place to look for bimmer. Only 3 dealers in area so not much competition, the best I can get was $1750 off the MSRP or around $3250 over invoice. I am sure you can do better now since the economy os still in it's descending path. Now $500 might be a little hard to get, not impossible(On 2001 model is very possible). The reason is that BMW just like any other mfg has a system that send more cars to dealers which sells the most cars previous month. If dealer only sell 1 X5 last month their allocation only 1 also for next month. So this will balance the supply and demand curve. IF a dealer can only sell 1 X5 last month and BMW send 10 X5 for this month dealer might sell a couple of those at $500 over invoice just to move them. In any rate this is the best handling SUV/SAV out there until porsche comes along(that is still yet to be seen by the way).
It rides sooooo smooth and it is very quiet. I looked at the ML when considering but the interior of the X5 is far superior in my opinion. One thing I am a little disappointed about is power at highway speeds. At 85mph there really isn't much power above that. Sure it will get up higher than that, but it takes a while. I couldn't get it up over 90 on a hill here in So. Cal. and was disappointed when an F-150 breezed past me...and no, it wasn't an SVT. But then again, I didn't buy it for that reason. Comfort is great...I have PP, Xenon, Auto...wanted SP but dealer said I would have to wait until March(!) to get it!! So I took it without. I paid below sticker but not much. I was a little disappointed with the dealing of 2 separate dealers. I think they figure since they're BMW they have so many people wanting to buy them they don't have to deal. But I got what I considered a somewhat reasonable price so I'm happy.
I can definitely rate this car as No.1 in SUV.
However, I still miss the ride/drive quility of BMW 530. I am maybe not a SUV guy....
Even though I am an autobroker of new cars, I am not trying to solicit any of you. Just want feedback.
Car is listed for $41,900 which appears to be lower than most used X5s out there. Would like to sell for $41,000. Here are the vitals: 2000 X5 4.4 in Pearl Beige with Pastel Leather. Activity Pkg., Xenons, Premium Sound, In-dash CD, Sunroof. Mileage is high at 35,000. I realize there are some negatives but it is a great car. There has been no serious activity. Car is in perfect condition. What am I missing here? Thanks for your feedback.
I am a SUV guy! I love the the higher seating height and the ability to get through almost anything, but I long for a little more performance. I was actually thinking of giving my Land Rover to my wife and getting either an X5 4.4 with sport pkg or the A8. I know they are two totally different vehicles, but since you have had both what is your opinion? Also, is the sport pkg extra harsh in town, I live in Chicago where our roads are full of pot holes? Thanks.
I have gathered from reading countless reviews the following strengths and weaknesses of each SAV/SUV.
BMW
Strengths
-safety
-handling
-interior
Weaknesses
-cargo space
-tailgate design
-choppy ride
Cadillac
Strengths
-powertrain
-passenger and cargo space
Weaknesses
-interior
-fuel economy
Any feeback is appreciated, especially from any owner/lessee who considered these vehicles. I
welcome all comments.
You are essentially offer a 2000 model with 35000 miles on it that is only 10 percent off a 2001 brand new model. If you ask me, you should take another $6000 off and I might consider it.
The wife and I also have a '98 Vette and a '00 4x4 Silverado so we wanted a firm ride with great handling.
Test drive a sport package before you buy though.
I loved the fact that the Audi was such a low profile car (i de-badge all my cars),and a relatively rare sedan (2,500 per year total production with 1/3 of that coming to the US) capable of triple digit speeds with very little drama, amazing grip, and the very best materials inside.
Had my dealer not tried to close out his model year with a bang (raping me in the process), had the right model (S8) and color combination been available, i would have bought a new S8 from them instead of the X5.
I do not regret buying the BMW and enjoy the truck a lot, but it's no love affair, my heart was stolen by the Audi, and when the new version of the A8 debuts in '03 i will probably switch back.
The BMW is a lot of fun to roar around in, but for long trips, give me an A8.
However, here's the best deal they are willing to do until 12/31 on a 2002 X5 3.0 in stock (or can be located):
Residual - 63% (3 yr. 15K)
Money Factor - .0019
$2000 above "hard costs" (dealer's invoice)
Fees- $300 (MACO), $600 (PAC), $725 (lease acquistion)
Bottom line: $634/mo. with $1,763 at signing
If anyone has any feedback on this, I certainly would appreciate it.
Thanks
http://www.mjhb.com/lease/
I live in Oregon, and don't know whether it applies or not.
Can someone point out a light?
is there any website has this info ?
thanks!
BTW, if you don't mind me asking, were you able to get the price you wanted or did you have to concede? Email me (MikePatterson@carolina.rr.com) or call me - I have a few questions for you off-line if you don't mind.
Hope you were referring to a 3.0. I would hate to think I need to take $6000 but I appreciate your feedback.
Premium package, rear climate, xenon, automatic. $45,820 MSRP
Lease is $577/mo.
$600 Security Deposit
$577 First mos. payment
$330 Processing Fees
$1507 total initial payment
I am considering buying a X5 3.0 that was used as a dealer demo. It has about 4500 miles and it is a 1991. What kind of discount should I demand given these two facts?
How does the X5 compare? I like the look, but do need some space back there. I can't find the rear cargo dimensions anywhere, and hope some X5 owners can help out. Everyone publishes their cubic feet dimensions, but that can be deceiving if there is a high roofline. For me, the square footage is key. The X5 looks to be a little shorter than my Explorer in terms of distance from passenger seats to the rear hatch....
Thanks for any info!