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2008 Acura RDX Rumors

jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
edited March 15 in Acura
My wife and I just started with the very early stages of looking for a replacement car for her 2005 FX that is coming off lease at the end of the year.

We were both rather disappointed that the RDX has no passenger side power seat and no seat memory but are still drawn to it because the technology package is the best out there in a compact SUV.

The salesman insisted that this is being corrected for 2008 (he says due to weak sales) but we were interested in whether or not anyone had heard anything similar or not.

Any other 2008 rumors? The other vehicle we are looking at is the Nissan Murano which is rumored to be completely redesigned for 2008.
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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    ... be better served by an MDX... any particular reason you're not considering that one? The RDX is noticeably smaller than the FX series Infiniti, is it not?

    ~alpha
  • vcarrerasvcarreras Posts: 247
    May want to look at the new Infiniti EX35 or new Lexus which will be based off the RAV4.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/12721/infiniti-ex-concept.html
  • jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
    Thanks for the suggestions. We were trying to stick with small or medium sized SUVs that were in the low to mid 30K price range.

    With VPP discounts through my employer we will pay a little under invoice on any Infiniti or Nissan product which is why we were looking at the Murano. The FX is really compact actually and a little smaller inside than the Murano, but our main complaint with the FX is the extremely stiff/harsh ride (harsh even by sport standards, my Audi A4 has a much more supple suspension than my wife's FX).

    Thanks for suggestions, I will check some of those other cars out. The technology package on the RDX is still the most impressive I've seen with the GPS integrated climate control, traffic data for the NAV and bluetooth with handsfree dialing.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    The salesman will tell you anything to make a sale - the lack of a power passenger seat is not the thing that is hurting sales. Like the RL, the RDX is a great car on paper that for some reason is not a hit with the masses.
  • jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
    If he wanted to make a sale I highly doubt he would tell us that they will be making those changes in the '08 model that is not due out for six months. Typically sales people will tell you that the current model they have for sale is as good as it gets.

    I have a friend whose son works for Honda. I will see if he can verify/refute this rumor.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I dunno if you've driven the RDX yet, but it doesn't exactly glide over the bumps, either. I drove one with the optional 19" rims under it and found the ride to be as stiff as I could bear. And I have a decent tolerance for that sort of thing. Of course, the 18" should be better, but I think you'll want to test them yourself.

    FWIW, I'm with you on the compact nature of the FX. While a great performance vehicle, I've always joked that it's the hatchback of the mid-size luxury SUV class.
  • jblaze13jblaze13 Posts: 152
    I've been considering the RDX while waiting for the LR2 and the Infinti to break cover. The infiniti is definitely more visually appealing from the outside. Glad to finally get some more entrants into this segment.
  • extech2extech2 Posts: 120
    I wouldn't be surprised if for 2008 the price of the base RDX would go up by $1,200 or $ 1,600 and this would include the current tech. package with navigation.
  • jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
    That would actually surprise me greatly as Acura have always offered at least one options package to differentiate their vehicles and offer a lower entry price for those who don't want all of the features.

    I think that if the RDX continues to sell poorly the more likely scenario is that the price stays the same with more features added, possibly a few things slipping from the technology package into the base trim and bigger manufacturer incentives.
  • johnny98johnny98 Posts: 88
    Remember that pricing is negotiable. If they do start adding features and sales go up, then dealers are going to stop giving out the below-invoice deals that are easily had right now. My advice is that if you like the car, but it now, because great deals are very easy to get.
  • jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
    Below invoice deals are hard if not impossible to get on the '07 MDX in most markets, if you have an inside angle though, let us know. :shades:
  • johnny98johnny98 Posts: 88
    Sorry, I thought the question was about the RDX.
  • jmpage2jmpage2 Posts: 262
    Right you are, the mistake is mine.
  • 3rd_man3rd_man Posts: 7
    I'm limping my 98 Impreza Outback Sport along in hopes of waiting out the release of the 08 RDX. I don't have the guts to be an early adopter so I'm waiting for year two.

    Has anyone heard a whisper as to when the 08 models are going to be available?

    Thank you kindly.
  • tdiidmantdiidman Posts: 35
    Has anyone heard more specifics about what changes are in the works for the RDX for the 2008 or even the 2009 model year. I can think of a lot that are needed to improve the sales of this slow-selling vehicle, even though it is a techie's dream, but suspect we're not going to see many of them, at least not in 2008. My ideal RDX, and one that would lead me to purchase it in a heartbeat, would have these modifications: (1) a more fuel efficient engine that burns regular fuel or, preferably, is a diesel or diesel-hybrid; (2) the ability to tow more than 1500 lbs (the current RDX, in my opinion, lacks much "utility" even though it is an SUV; (3) a power passenger seat; (4) a memory driver's seat; (5) better looking alloy wheels than the 2007 version (need to be brighter and not grayish,to match the brightness of the door handles; (6)a standard auto dimming rear view mirror (can't believe Acura makes you pay extra for this in a car this expensive); (7) auto on-off headlamps; (8) rain sensing wipers; (9)a somewhat softer suspension; (10) a 6 speed automatic transmission- should help highway fuel economy; (11) self-leveling, articulating HID headlamps; (12) LED taillamps with amber turn signals which, in my opinion, are easier for drivers to the rear to see; and (13) an option for a DVD player for the second row. How many of these dreams might become reality? Are you listening, RDX product managers?
  • johnny98johnny98 Posts: 88
    The RDX is really more of a "sport activity vehicle" like the BMW X3 (which the RDX is outselling, by the way). If you want more of a boat-hauling machine, you should look at the MDX instead. The MDX has many of the other features you list as well.

    Rumors I've heard are that changes to the RDX are going to be pretty minimal, like a couple of new colors, moving some of the Tech features into the base model, and making some of the accessories standard. No word on pricing, but I expect that you will pay more to get more.
  • rblelandrbleland Posts: 312
    I am currently considering an RDX. If the majority of the changes were made per the above post, I would no longer be interested in an RDX at all.

    Different strokes, I guess.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    (1) are you certain, sure, the RDX cannot be safely fueled with 87 octane? Even the Porsche 996/997 series, 2001 and up, allows that.

    (2) Demographics at "play". How many buyers have "this" interest?

    (3) Power passenger seat... Power/memory seat "base" from Ebay? My 2001 Ford class "C" MH has an RX300 driver's memory/heating seat in the passenger's position, as does the driver's side. $250 on ebay for the RX300 "set", plus another $150 for an ES300 seat from which the memory/power base was removed and installed under the RX300 passenger seat.

    Anyone in the market for a '97 ES300 driver's side seat but with an RX300 passenger side power seat base?

    (4) See above.

    (5) Aftermarket...my 2001 RX300 has 17X8 RH brand wheels along with +1 summer only Bridgestone Turanza tires.

    (6) Nowadays auto-dimming rear view mirrors are not as viable as they once were due to the now consistently deeper tinting, darkening, of the rear and rear side windows in order to increase the efficiency of the climate control system. There is an aftermarket solution but absent putting the rear "looking"/view auto-dimming sensor on the outside rear(??)to avoid the tinting desensitation it would likely be useless.

    (7) Auto-on/off headlamps...hmmm, does seem an odd thing to leave off.

    (8) Rain sensing wipers. I have these on my 2001 C4 but I'm not so sure the cost would justify. Even here in Seattle.

    (9) I would agree, air suspension would be really nice.

    (10) Obviously you haven't yet had to endure the continuous "shiftiness" one encounters with a modern day 6-speed. More likely 9 "speed" with the modern day use of the torque converter lockup clutch in gear ratios below O/D.

    All this "shiftiness", while somewhat discomforting as a driver will undoutedly improve FE and FWD safety. Most FWD and front torque biased AWD vehicles are now being programmed to upshift upon full throttle lift to prevent engine compression braking from resulting in loss of control or even ABS operational interference.

    (11) The Feds require that HID headlamps be self-leveling. Insofar as "articulating" is concerned this seems to be a somewhat mixed bag. Where do these headlamps "point" as you are existing the curve/turn?

    Answer..

    Not toward the roadbed.

    (12) Aftermarket, Ebay, again, specifically V-LEDS, Velocity LEDS. Both my 2001 AWD RX300 and 2001 Porsche C4 are fully retrofitted to LEDs, tail/stop/turn/parking/street/DRLs/high mount. Plus many of the interior lamps. During DRL operation the tail/street/parking/marker LED lamps are also enabled as is required by our neighbors just to the north.

    Backup bulbs are 12 volt 50 watt bi-pin halogens (re)fitted into OEM lamp Bases. With the RX, during tail light only operations the inside set of rear tail lamps are disabled but enabled for STOP/BRAKING. On the C4 both OEM rear "fog" lights are wired to come on with braking. These mods provide a much more pronounced notification to the rear that I am "on the brakes".

    (13) Like with OEM embedded GPS/nav systems, an aftermarket solution (two DVD player/screens actually) will not only be more competitive overall, but more viable in that they can be moved about for use in other family vehicles.
  • carlitos92carlitos92 Posts: 458
    6) I don't understand this comment. If the auto-dimming mirror is factory-installed, it should be calibrated for whatever level of tinting is on the car. I have a CX-7 with OEM "privacy tint" on the rear glass, and I assure you, the auto-dimming mirror is still viable. I would think the increasing prevalence of taller vehicles with projector headlamps is mitigating any tint darkening trend.

    11) HIDs are required to be "leveling," not "SELF-leveling." There are plenty of cars out there where the HIDs are leveled by the driver's finger. Which means if I'm not on point, I could conceivably aim the things to the sky. I don't change the load in my car too much, but can understand how the non-SELF-leveling lamps could be a pain.

    13) I agree that aftermarket systems are the way to go. However, that's irrelevant to Acura. They stand to make a lot of money charging $1,100 for "integration" of a $300 device...
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    6) I have auto-dimming on two vehicles. The one on the RX I have never noted to be at all functional, on the other one I added rear tint so it's my fault that it isn't functional.

    On the latter one outside rear view mirror position "follows" driver seat memory so I simply use one of the extra seat memory positions to tilt the outside mirror downward slightly during night driving.

    11) Not sure I fully understand here. Both of my HID equipped vehicles will auto level the headlamp assemblies each time I turn the ignition on. The RX will continue to self-level up to about 20MPH roadspeed. I only know of one vehicle wherein the driver can control headlamp "leveling" and in that case it turns out to be a "downward" over-ride of the existing auto-leveling. You can never move the headlamps above the auto-leveling upward "target".

    13) The only reason my '01 Rx has a "captive" GPS/nav is because it was "packaged" with other features I wanted, something I will always resent.

    There comes a time for all manufacturers, regarding factory vs aftermarket options, that demographics overcomes greed. Consumers do not indefinitely remain stupid to price/value disparaties.

    Now if we could just get the idiot dealers to recognize that.

    Back in late 99 when I was in the market for an early MY2000 AWD Chrysler T&C delivery every local dealer (Seattle) had them loaded up to the "gusset", every factory option consieveable and then locally installed dual headrest DVDs.

    I called a dealer in AR who found me a "stripped" AWD T&C LXi.
  • carlitos92carlitos92 Posts: 458
    I think the driver-controllable HIDs are more common in Europe (or at least used to be) - mainly because the HIDs are highly desirable there, but often on a car whose price point wouldn't justify the auto-leveling system. Think Mercedes C-Class with roll-up windows, and you get the idea. That scenario is less common here, but the CX-7 GT has this. Maybe also the Mazdaspeed 3 or 6...

    I have a 5-position dial on the dash that is the only way of vertically aiming the HID headlights... There is a page in the manual that tries to correlate number of passengers (therefore, vehicle load) with dial position. But I think it's a crude baseline at best, and that the only way to realistically aim the headlights is out on the road, and even then only if you've owned the car a while and have a feel where the lights should be hitting.

    For the record, I COULD have bought the $1K+ OEM DVD system in my Mazda (and have the kids and make the journeys to justify it) but ended up getting a dual-screen setup for less than $200. I admit that it looks junky slung over the headrests, but it also comes out of the car when not needed, reducing the chance of getting stolen, etc...
  • bruceomegabruceomega Posts: 250
    "(10) Obviously you haven't yet had to endure the continuous "shiftiness" one encounters with a modern day 6-speed"

    I own a different brand, but I've never encountered anything I would call continuous shiftiness in my 6 speed AT. I find my 6 speed very responsive, and I much prefer it over a 5 speed I previously owned.

    Thanks
    Bruce
  • beliasbelias Posts: 316
    So basically nobody here knows anything about what is coming in the 2008 RDX...
  • pmagganpmaggan Posts: 62
    Given the suspicious eye one must cast with respect to Internet information, I wouldn't bet on anything until Acura makes an official announcement. A similar discussion is going on over at rdx.acurazine.com. There is a guy there who claims to have official information and states that the 2008s will begin production in July for July delivery and that the Carbon Grey Pearl color is history for 2008.
  • casa7casa7 Posts: 3
    2008:

    XM standard on all models
    Auto-dimming mirror standard on all trims
    Driver 2-way memory seats standard on both trim levels
    Multi-Information Display (MID) standard on the base model
    Handsfree-Link standard on the base
  • johnny98johnny98 Posts: 88
    Please state the source of this information. Reliable or just a guess?
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    "So basically nobody here knows anything about what is coming in the 2008 RDX..."

    Most accurate statement in the thread. :shades:
  • casa7casa7 Posts: 3
  • cobra611cobra611 Posts: 1
    Any cosmetic changes??
  • beliasbelias Posts: 316
    Thanks! :D I'm hoping that memory seats and a fully-powered passenger seat become "standard". But who knows!
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