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Hyundai Azera Tires and Wheels

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  • azgrandazgrand Posts: 50
    edited April 2010
    So far, the lug nuts are holding them on. I had to use a Dremel and enlarge the lug nut holes in the wheel covers -- at first they were too small and the lugs would not tighten enough to hold the wheels properly. When I tried to snug them down, the lugs cracked the plastic wheel cover around the lug nut. After enlarging all the holes, the lug would contact the wheel-stud carrier instead of the wheel cover.

    The covers came with squares of double-sided foam tape that are suposed to secure them to the wheel without having to rely on the lug nuts. I didn't feel like using the tape in case I decide to take the covers off or if I have a problem with them. Sometimes pulling double-sided tape off a painted surface can be near impossible. Hopefully they will be OK the way I have them installed now. Time will tell.
  • manoharmanohar Posts: 12
    I have a 2003 mercury sable wagon now past 200,000 miles. recently it showed hi-lo spots wear pattern on the inside wall in the front. otherwise the tires look very good.

    alignment is perfect. struts although very very old look fine. front end linkages are fine. puzzled what is causing this strange wear pattern.

    wal-mart technician identified it when i went there for the usual rotate-balance job.

    any ideas?
  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 793
    edited April 2010
    Irregular wear is caused by misalignment and aggravated by insufficient inflation pressure and insufficient rotation practices.

    My experience says that the published alignment tolerances are too wide. Not the target value, but the allowable deviation from that value. I think it ought to be half of what is published.

    Put another way, the alignment should be within the inner half of the spec.

    You should be aware that even vehicles that do not have a pull can be out of alignment. There are settings where one out of spec condition is offset by another out of spec condition – typically camber vs toe.

    Also, many alignment techs think that if the factory did not make provisions to make adjustments for the alignment, then they can’t make an adjustment and will declare the vehicle “OK”. This is totally wrong.

    ALL alignment settings are adjustable, but it may require an eccentric bolt, some shims, or slotting a hole. A GOOD alignment tech will know what to do and the vehicle should leave a shop with ALL the alignment settings close to the nominal.

    In your case, the "misalignment" is probably in the rear, and may have been aggravated by insufficient rotation. "They" say you should rotate every 5K to 8K miles.

    When the tires were rotated, they probably had that wear pattern, and now are on the front. So look to the rear for the "misalignment" and consider how long the tires were there.
  • manoharmanohar Posts: 12
    excellent analysis! many thanks!
  • r7nr7n Posts: 5
    My dealer always puts 37psi in the tires. This causes rougher rides and increased tire wear in the center line of the tires. I failed to lower the pressure to the recommended 30psi for a long time because I liked the increased fuel mileage. However, I eventually noticed the increased tread wear in the center line and now lower the pressure after leaving the dealer, if not in the pickup area. I have complained about their over pressuring the tires and they always respond that they fill to the Hyundai recommended pressure. I guess the door jam recommended tire pressures mean nothing to them, as I have pointed out to them. I currently maintain about 29psi in the tires to help even out wear across the tire. Once tread depths are equal across the tire I will return to the recommended 30psi. BTW, I have 57K on my 07 and the original Michelin tires. I believe the original tread depth was 10/32" and they are currently at an average of 6/32". I rotate the tires every 8K miles, which is every other oil change. I really like Michelin tires for their quiet ride and handling performance in wet conditions. These are the same tires that I ran on my Lexus LS400.
  • shagnatshagnat Posts: 78
    Wow on all accounts. I cannot believe your dealer? What are they thinking????? Glad you know to put the pressure back to 30psi, mine says 31psi, but that's irrelevant IMO.

    But, to have 57K on the original michelins and still liking them is mind-blowing ot me. I bought a used '08 with 25K and couldn't wait to get those harsh-riding, noise-making tires off my car.

    I put a set of Continental DWS and love the difference. It's amazing how most Azera owners hated the michelins and a few love them. Maybe it's QC at michelin, I dunno.
  • I currently have an 07 Azera Limited with 25K miles on it. The Michelins have been rotated every 7500 miles and they are very noisy. The fronts are worst after being moved from the rear. Slight feathering that is slowly correcting itself but the loud noise is still there. I want to go to the Continental DWS's but have to wait for the distributors to get their stock in order. How many miles do you have on your DWS's and what if anything have you found about them relative to performance, ride, noise, etc?
  • shagnatshagnat Posts: 78
    I have only ~2000 miles on them. No complaints whatsoever to this point. I cannot compare them to anything else other than the stock Michelins that came on it, and they are vastly superior to hose.

    You may not have much luck finding these in the stock size. I found just one dealer who happened to have 4 in stock when I bought mine, all other dealers had them on backorder.

    I went to Conti's website and they don't even show the stock size for the Azera listed. Perhaps you can visit their webiste and contact them regarding these tires in the stock size.

    Wish I could be more helpful.
  • silverfox1silverfox1 Posts: 91
    The tire dealer I deal with in Wisconsin has 9 distributors for tires and all are out of stock on the Coni DWS for the Azera as well as 15 other sizes. The demand must have exceeded the inventory I guess. I have a 06 Sonata and I replaced the Michelins with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity's and they are a big improvement over the Michelins in ride quality. The Sonata was built in AL and did not have the noise problem as I am having with the Azera. The Azera being built in Korean would have Michelins from there or Japan and that may be the difference in quality of the tire. I really want the Conti DWS for winter driving as they are rated better than the Bridgestones.
  • 3gencat3gencat Posts: 4
    I bought an 06 Azera with 20k miles on it about 1 1/2 yrs ago. An off lease car and the OEM tires had never been rotated and not consistent on pressure. The dealer said not to rotate as would likely cause vibrations based on how tread was worn. I ran them to 40k miles. I love the car but road noise and handling were concerns. When turning from a stop, it was easy to break loose the front tires from my first day. After reading here, I know why.

    After reading here and other tire reviews at other sites, I decided to try the Altimax HPs as replacements. I ordered from Treadepot.com and had shipped to a local shop for mounting and balancing with total for all at about $550. In remembering back to when I bought the car with decent tread left, what a difference these tires make. Quieter. Better handling in dry and wet. I really have to try to get the front tires to break loose in any situation.

    I only have a couple of hundred miles on new tires, and though still not a great handling car, I am much more confident with these tires than OEMs. We'll see how they do with some snow next winter. Thanks for all the advise on replacement tires and other subjects.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Another Altimax HP convert! :D You've basically come up with the same characteristics I did. They really are a good tire for the money...can't go wrong!
  • Right on allmet33, you convinced me 8K ago and I couldn't be more pleased. :)
  • oskidunker1oskidunker1 Posts: 213
    edited June 2010
    My suspicion is that the car and its strange suspension beat up tires. I too had to change tires around 25K due to the noise.Goodyear Assurance on now. Have 15k on the new ones and they are fine but way too early to tell.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Oskidunker1...not sure if there's any truth to that. One thing I can say...with the OEM Michelins, if you let the car sit for a few days with no driving, the tires would get flat spots that you would hear and feel for a few miles once you did start driving. This was when the tires were still relatively new. Having replaced them with the Altimax HP's...never have that problem now.
  • silverfox1silverfox1 Posts: 91
    I finally replace those noisy Michelin's on my 07 Azera. I went with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity's instead of the Continental Extreme DWS's. The Continentals are still back ordered and I just got plain tired of waiting for them to be available. Needless to say the new tires have brought my Azera back to what it was when I purchased the car. The noise is gone and the ride is improved. I also had a four wheel alignment done and all four wheels were out of spec on toe readings. This may have been the reason that the Michelins became noisy. I only had 27,500 miles on them and they were only half worn. Have your alignment checked before going with new tires.
  • Right on silverfox1, completely agree with about alignment. Had the same problem with my Michelins caused by poor alignment when I puchased my 08 with 5K on the speedo. Changed to General Altimax HP's, got aligned, much quieter ride. :)
  • dbrad4dbrad4 Posts: 2
    I have 62k miles on my Azera and just put the 3rd set of tires on it. The Hyundai dealer sold be the 2nd set which started "feathering". All I know is I started hearing noise at 6k miles (on new tires) and continued taking the car back to the dealer. Finally, they told me they couldn't do anything about the tires since it was a warranty issue. By this time I had 20k + on the tires.

    Tell me more about the TSB and when it came out.

    Thanks!
  • silverfox1silverfox1 Posts: 91
    Sounds like the dealer did not do an alignment to correct possible toe problem. I believe they would have charged you if they did it. The toe condition will cause the ties to feather and cause the noise that you are hearing. Rotation every 5000 miles after the alignment is a necessity to keep the tire wear in check.
  • These tires have been great, however with 17,300 miles on the tires, the tread left is only 4/32 on 2 and 3/32 on the other two. I have rotated and kept good pressure in the tires. Good year warranties these for 65k and The Tire rack has said they will prorate it and give me a credit when I order new tires.$47.00 shipping charge to ship the tires back to the Tire Rack.'

    I have never seen a tire wear out so fast. maybe I can get 25k out of these if I am lucky.Do you think it is the car?
  • hc106hc106 Posts: 10
    Oskidunker1,
    I had Goodyear Assurance TripleTred tires on a 2002 Mercury Marquis and they went 70,000 miles before I had to replace them due to wear. I traded this car in on a new 2007 Hyundai Azera.

    At 28,000 miles on the Azera, my wife picked up a nail and ran on the tire after it went flat long enough to break down the sidewall. I was going to have to buy a new tire, so used this as an excuse to go ahead and buy a set of Goodyear Assurance TripleTreds. As of today, I have 12,500 miles on the Goodyears, and can discern no noticeable tread wear.
  • Seems my tread guage was worn out. I re checked with a new one and found 5/32 left
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    Ok everybody out there in Azzyland.....what is the best performing tire dressing for my Azzy's tires that you would recommend..????...consider deep shine, gloss, long-lasting, easy to apply, spray, gel, etc

    Thanks
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Personally...after you have scrubbed the tires really good, dried them off nicely...I love how the Armor All Extreme product works. I also do not apply it with the applicator they provide, I prefer to use the open cell sponges (regular kitchen sponge) as it does a much better job.
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    Allmet
    I used the Extreme in the past..it's a good "showroom" product, but after a dirve of 5 miles down the road, it no longer has the deep black color and gloss....the best I've found is Wet Jet...an aerosal silicone spray...it's expensive though,about $6 for a can.....I guess the high gloss products have a lot of glycerine and the longer lasting products have a higher concentration of silicone......justlike a lot of things today...they only last as long as the 1st good rain....
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Could be the way you apply it...don't know why you experienced that issue. I've never had that problem. Personally, I really prefer the Exteme product because it doesn't sling off the tire either. Having a black car, that can be a real issue with a lot of other products.

    No tire product will look as good 5 miles down the road as it did when you applied it in the driveway, nature, gravity and physics see to that every single time. One thing that I've learned about dressing tires...it's always best to start with a tire that's as clean as possible, so make sure you scrub the tires really good. ;)
  • jamazerajamazera Posts: 149
    mine's black also.....followed directions per label....we don't really have a problem with "dirty tires" here in FL like you would up north.....not much mud; mostly sand
    thanks
  • Dealer inflated mine to 28 pounds at the last service. Seems low.
  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 793
    On every vehicle sold in the US, there is a sticker called the vehicle tire placard, that lists the original tire size and the proper pressure for that size.

    If you are using the size listed on the placard, then that is the pressure you should use.

    According to Tire Guides - a booklet that summarizes vehicle tire placards, the placard ought to say 30 psi.
  • anthonydganthonydg Posts: 2
    edited December 2010
    The Altimax HP and Goodyear Assurance tires are H rated, aren't they? I too am very dissatisfied with the road noise from my V-rated OEM Michelins. Did you notice any reduction in performance (e.g. more slide when taking an exit ramp at higher speed) when downgrading to the H rated tire?

    If any of you have downgraded to H rated in other tires, please respond, too.

    Thanks for any help.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Anthonydg...unless you plan on traveling at speeds in excess of 100 mph on a regular and constant basis...V-rated tires are overkill for the Azera. I have been riding on H-rated tires with absolutely no problems what-so-ever. I am one who switched to the General Altimax tire and actually have seen an increase in performance aspects of tires vs the OEM Michelins. Cornering is more sure, no slippage during wet weather, sure footing in moderate snow and icy conditions and no sliding when taking exit/entrance ramps at higher speed either.

    I have made the switch and I know of one other person who has switched to the Altimax. There are a couple of folks that have switched to the Goodyear Assurance and even a couple that have gone with Kuhmo tires...all have reported better performance vs. OEM Michelins.

    Good luck!
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