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2008 Subaru Legacy

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  • mfletou1mfletou1 Posts: 508
    My Camry Hybrid has both steering wheel audio controls AND steering wheel climate controls. Let me tell you, once you get used to that...my other vehicle (a Honda Odyssey) has only the audio, but when I'm in it I instinctively try to change the climate setting on the wheel anyway.

    Its really more of a safety issue than luxury--your eyes never need to leave the road.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well then we should ditch all buttons and go with voice controlled everything, that would be the safest, your hands wouldn't have to move at all? :)

    Luxury just means you get more bells and whistles, like this feature. Perhaps they made a bad decision not including it on the lower non-turbo models, but they have to make a cutoff point somewhere, or else all the options would be included on the lowest trim level car.

    -mike
  • mfletou1mfletou1 Posts: 508
    The lowest trim level car is the 2.5i. You seem to be drawing no distinction between a 2.5i and a 2.5i Limited. Limited IS the trim level--see the Forester, which after the LL Bean contract expires, will sell the 2.5x, 2.5x Premium, and 2.5x Limited. The 2.5x Premium and 2.5x Limited both have steering wheel radio controls. You're paying $4000 dollars for the Limited trim.

    Oh, and yes, I think Bluetooth is a safety feature, also.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Are we talking about foresters or legacies here? Don't forget the FORESTER is in the first year of a "new" generation. The 08/09 Legacies are the LAST years of the "old" generation. No reason for them to throw out new features etc. for the outgoing models.

    Also from what I've been told FHI nickle and dimes SOA on options the same way that dealers do to the end customer. So SOA has to make decisions on what to put in and what to leave out, unfortunately sometimes things get cut. As for bluetooth as a "safety" item, PLEASE, you don't HAVE TO talk on the phone while driving, if you MUST, then there are a lot of options, but to say it's a SAFETY feature is borderline ridiculous, it would be nice to have it integrated, but it's in no way a safety feature, it's very much a convience feature.

    -mike
  • mfletou1mfletou1 Posts: 508
    You don't have to speed, either, yet people do it and we laud features like VSC and AWD that helps them keep the car on the road.

    Bottom line: talking on the cell phone while driving kills people, and switching to hands free device mitigates the risk. Therefore, its a safety feature.

    As for the original point, we're not exactly talking advanced technology here. I really don't think the year of the model span has much to do with it. I think the nickel and dime part is more operative. SOA is going to learn the hard way, though--you can dismiss these features, but the competition is starting to get them, so SOA is going to have to to keep up. As far as I'm aware, btw, Bluetooth isn't even offered on any level Forester--so much for that theory.

    I brought up the Forester though to demonstrate that I thought your definition of "trim level" was off--the Forester and Outback are named the same way.
  • I bought a brand new 2008 Legacy Limited sedan 3 weeks ago. The mileage is 650. Since then it has developed some odd electrical problems.

    First, while driving the vehicle home, the display on the dash (mpg, time, temp, etc.) flashed & came back on.

    About a week & a half later, I noticed the car radio volume was extremely loud. I tried to lower the volume, change the radio station, even turn the radio off and I could do none of these things. I pulled off the road, turned the car off, then back on and was able to get the radio to work again.

    Finally this past Friday the radio just completely cut off and could not be turned back on.

    The dealer checked it, could not find the problem.

    I'm concerned that this could eventually prove to be a safety issue. And, I mean, this is a BRAND NEW CAR! What rights do I have? The dealership has told me that I have to document every time I have a problem, but frankly I am concerned that I could have completely electrical failure.

    What should I do? I have told the dealership that they must make this situation right.

    Any advice?
  • bigearz1bigearz1 Posts: 20
    From what i know, your car's display dash will flash a few times for every consecutive hour you are driving on the road--its like an indicator. As for the radio issue, try to get it resolved ASAP from dealer, if they dont the next best option is to contact SOA directly.. I believe the number is 1 800 subaru 3
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The Forester LL Bean model does have steering wheel radio controls, FWIW. Cruise is on the other side, too.

    It does seem strange that a vehicle one step lower in the price scale/lineup has it and the 2.5i Limited doesn't.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You don't have to speed, either, yet people do it and we laud features like VSC and AWD that helps them keep the car on the road.

    These items are not meant for high speed driving they are meant to be used at normal driving speeds and in emergency situations. Talking on the phone while driving is NEVER an emergency situation.

    Bottom line: talking on the cell phone while driving kills people, and switching to hands free device mitigates the risk. Therefore, its a safety feature.

    People talking on their cell phones while driving kills people because the drivers of said cars put themselves and others at risk by talking while driving. There is compelling data that shows that it's not only the holding of the phone but the capacity of many drivers who cannot drive and carry on a phone conversation safely, regardless of if it's w/hands free or w/o hands free.

    Bluetooth is an option IIRC for 09, at least on the imprezas and foresters. We'll likely see it next year on the legacy as well.
  • jfljfl Posts: 1,346
    with or without hands-free, the car in the middle lane going 5-10 mph slower than everyone else is probably on the phone!

    HANG UP AND DRIVE!!!
    *rant off*
  • bigearz1bigearz1 Posts: 20
    Hey, anyone know if you do you own oil change, will your warranty be void by SOA??
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Just keep your reciepts for oil and filters and document it on mysubaru.com

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    No, you are protected by the Magnussen-Moss Warranty Act.

    Go ahead, just document it and keep receipts.
  • hi
    I saw that some legacy has higher ground clearance than others??
    which trim is that??

    I like the higher ground clreance models!
  • bigearz1bigearz1 Posts: 20
    Thx for the info guys. Is there another way to document these oil changes aside from mysubaru.com? the reason I ask this is because I live in Canada but purchased my car in the States and when i tried to register it asks which State I live in.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Not really, get an Outback if that's what you want.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I used that. Just put the nearest state to where you live, I doubt it matters.

    I kept a folder with all the print outs from that site, plus I stapled receipts for oil.

    The first person that saw my used Forester for sale bought it. :shades:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm not sure that your USDM car can actually get warranty work done in Canada, so it may not matter. Of course if you live close to the states you could pop over and have it repaired I suppose.

    -mike
  • bigearz1bigearz1 Posts: 20
    i registers and emailed them in regards to this issue. No reply yet. Will continue to wait. But I will follow your way of doing things.
  • bigearz1bigearz1 Posts: 20
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    I really like the front--bottom/bumper of this model without the lip (2nd pic), anyone know where I can find this and how much will it cost?
  • andymentandyment Posts: 5
    I have a 2008 Legacy 2.5 limited that's making this whistling sound from the engine bay when I hit 70-80mph. It's not there when I go under 70 or over 80. The sound goes away when I press on the gas, but comes right back when I let off. Any insights? Thanks!
  • pilot1226pilot1226 Posts: 165
    Hiya,

    I've been in the market for a new car for a little over a year now, and I've had a very conservative approach thus far. I've test driven several different cars, from the Toyota Prius, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Elantra, and Subaru Outback.

    I'm currently driving a 2000 Honda Civic LX (Automatic, 87500 miles) that recently has been making some odd noises and other little things that are making it start showing its age. Aside from the timing belt maintenance (suggested by the dealer at 65000 miles/5 years), I've been up on everything else and have the maintenance records available, it's in pretty good working condition save for random noises that come and go every few months (I check the fluids, cables, nothing seems to be low/worn/etc.).

    I'm at the point now where I've decided Subaru will definitely be the manufacturer of my next car. I originally was a little uneasy about the 170hp engine only getting 27MPG, but the safety of the All-Wheel Drive vastly outweighs the extra 13MPG I typically get with my Civic - especially after I've been doing 360's down major highways during rain and snow up here in New Jersey.

    I'm torn between whether or not I should go for the 2008 Legacy or wait for the 2009's or 2010's. I've seen on multiple forums that there's a redesign right around the corner for the Legacy, most suggest 2010 for the change (larger chassis, VDC standard, etc.), but 2009 only has minor cosmetic upgrades like sound.

    Regarding VDC, I could take it or leave it, as all it is is Acceleration Slip Reduction which has been on Volkswagens for years, and I don't peel out ever when I'm accelerating so this is more or less a moot point for me.

    So, again, here's what I'm trying to get an impression of with this thread:
    1. Is it worth waiting for 2009-2010 (is there a major model change around the corner?)
    2. What is the typical maintenance cost at the dealer (average, slightly cheaper, slightly more expensive)?
    3. Do you prefer the Subaru dealer for service?
    4. Any other thoughts or comments regarding the model?

    Thanks!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    2010 is the re-do so 2009 will likely only get very mild changes.

    Between a 2008 and a 2009, I would take the deal on the 2008 right now. Unless the 09 doesn't cost any more (they should arrive very soon).

    The only extra maintenance is to change the fluid on the rear differential, which takes one quart of gear oil (80w90). It's not hard to do at all.
  • pilot1226pilot1226 Posts: 165
    Okay, some good advice there then, thanks. I haven't done a single oil change on my car, mostly because the Civic's very cramped inside (had to have a friend help with headlights)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The good news is there is an active Subaru Crew community here on Edmunds, we can help with stuff like that.
  • ylzylz Posts: 45
    Hello eveyone. I'm interesting in buying a new car and I have narrowed it down to a 2008 Subaru Tribeca or a 2008 Subaru Legacy GT. I know they are two totally different cars but I love them both but I was wondering about the gas mileage. The Tribeca takes regular gas and averages 21mpg on the highway. The Legacy GT takes premium gas (I believe) and averages 24mpg highway. Now my question is am I better off with the Tribeca or Legacy in terms of gas mileage? And I have never owned a car that uses premium fuel. Do you really need to put it because I heard of people getting away with using regular. Let me know what you guys think please. I have driven the Tribeca by the way and love the smooth ride. Have never drove the Legacy GT yet but I heard it's fun. Any thoughts? Thanks.
  • woodyboywoodyboy Posts: 10
    My 08 GT MT gets 20-21 around town and 28-30 on the road according to the onboard computer. I don't think it is completely accurate but close. I drive it in both the S and I mode. The car has around 7000 miles. It is a great car! I really enjoy it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Per the EPA the Leg will still do better. Annual fuel costs would be about $166 less. They make a lot of assumptions, but that's one reference.

    I don't think 45 cents per day should sway your decision either way, buy the one that puts the bigger smile on your face.

    Definitely stick with at least 91 octane for the GT. Around me, Sunoco sells 87, 89, 91, and 93. So 91 octane is actually cheaper than 93 at those stations. May be worth looking into...
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    2010 will be significantly larger than the 05-09.

    -mike
  • kmaurerkmaurer Posts: 48
    1. Is it worth waiting for 2009-2010?

    I would say, in your instance, where you not "needing" the VDC to get a 2008. I bought a Legacy Limited in March (for the VDC), and got a very good deal, even with Subarus being very popular in Utah.

    2. What is the typical maintenance cost at the dealer?

    I've done some reasearch on the 3 Subaru dealers close to my home. Their prices for service are about the same as any other dealer.

    3. Do you prefer the Subaru dealer for service?

    I live in a condo, so I can't do my own maintenance. I generally use the dealer for convenience - I work right next to an automall, so I can drop the car off in the morning, or get oil changes done during my lunch hour, etc. Talking with other Subaru owners, there are a lot of good independent mechanics out there.

    4. Any other thoughts or comments regarding the model?

    My Legacy is the first Subaru I have owned. Overall, I really like it, especially in the snow. The interior will be considered "cramped" by your average american. I think the interior is just the right size - not too large, not too small. It has adequate power, but honestly, I was expecting more given the size of the engine (I don't have the turbocharger). The leather on my Limited seems of good quality. The auto climate control is "wierd," and I have to do a lot of manual adjustment as I'm driving.

    Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Subaru.
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