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1995 Chevy/Geo Metro Real World MPG

altonctaltonct Posts: 2
edited August 20 in Chevrolet
I just purchased a 1995 Geo hatchback lsi (1.3L, automatic), and am getting just 27 mpg. Is there a serious problem with this car? Is there anything I can do to improve the mileage significantly?
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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,911
    I went to www.fueleconomy.gov to check what the EPA estimates for the '95 are.

    26 City, 31 Highway, 28 combined.

    With no info on what type of driving is getting 27mpg for you, I'd say you're in the range. Now if that's your on your first tank (since you just purchased), I'd say give yourself some time to become accustomed to drving the car and see how the mileage performance goes. The conditions you have to drive in may result in numbers like that. My first instinct is that you're not looking at some kind of serious issue with the car.

    I'm a definite believer in preventative maintenance with my vehicles and use mileage performance as a barometer of the car's health. A sudden change in mileage can be an indicator that something might not be right.

    You might want to get an oil change/tuneup to clear those kind of issues and see how that affects your mileage. That will also set your starting point for thinking about regular oil, changes, etc.

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,911
    Since we don't currently have a real world mileage discussion for the Metro, I'll rename this discussion and we'll use it as the starting point.

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  • dowensdowens Posts: 2
    I bought my Geo 2 door hatchback in May of 2006 with 79K on it. It is the 4cyl. with auto. and air. I have put 13K on it since then and get great milage. I go from Cleveland OH to Knoxville TN a couple of times a year and get 42mpg thru KY (40mpg using the A/C.) I then go to lower VA and get 45mpg (43mpg using the A/C). I then come back to Cleveland and get 40pg thru WV (37 mpg using the A/C) I go 11 hundred miles for the whole trip.In the winter I get approx.2mpg less than with A/C in the summer.After 4 such trips with this car milage has remained the same. I have a self installed cruise control that runs off the tach. instead of the speed. I use it the whole trip and it pulls all the hills. It slows down approx. 3mph going up hill, and speeds up approx.4mph going down hill. I drive like an old man because I am one. Usually I never drive over 65 mph even in the 70mph areas. I keep to the right always and haven't had any trouble with road rage. The Geo is Noisy on the road and I had to Raise my seat 2in. in the back and 1.5 in. in the front to be comfotable. This is a truelly a great little car if you use it as intended. I also installed a man size horn as nobody listens to the squeeker that came on it. :D
  • altonctaltonct Posts: 2
    Is your Geo newer than 1995? I don't do much highway driving with my car, but I can't imagine getting mileage like you're getting on the highway with my car. I was expecting to get mileage in the mid to high 30s with a car this size, thus am disappointed with the car. I plan to drive it only about 3 - 4,000 miles per year, so I hope that at least it is trouble free.
  • right on! i also installed a louder horn in my metro. a bull horn! now non-drivers take notice.
    -metrochekyoself REPRESENT!!!
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,911
    Before this spins off into something else, let's remember that this is a discussion about mileage performance.

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  • My car wouldn't start and was making a loud scary noise. I had it towed to a dealership. They said that my air conditionoing compressor broke and that I can just remove the system to bypass it....it has locked up my engine. In the meantime, all of my attempts to start it before I had it towed apparently damaged the starter. Does this sound legit? This all happened after I got gas...could it be bad gas too? My air conditioning has not worked in a year...why would it shut my car down now? :cry:
  • lance13lance13 Posts: 1
    I just joined this group. About the mileage with my Metro. I bought it spanking new in Feb.2000. Right out of the box around town driving I averaged 39 --->42 mpg.(I had a courier service then) My first road trip with was from Everett WA. to Portland OR. I set the cruise control at 75mph. The round trip got me 45mpg. After a while I started to run these trips to Portland at 60mph. My gas mileage exceeds 55+mpg consistantly. One thing I figured out about this little car is..."ITS NOT A ROCKETSHIP". But once I get up to speed with the cruise control set it hangs on pretty good. It just takes a while to get up to speed. I change the oil regularly around 6-7 thousand miles. One quart of DURA-LUBE at each change. Every month i add a whole container of Chevron fuel conditioner to keep things cleaned out. To this day, my car does not smoke or leak. I have 162500 miles on the O D. I changed the clutch and the transmission at around 140000. People can say what they want about these little cars. But personally I like them.
  • gnusman53gnusman53 Posts: 3
    Several years ago, I bought a 94 Geo 2 door....no AC and was getting nearly 55mpg in freeway/state rural highway (with stop signs)....in city driving, more than 42mpg

    I bought a used 99 Metro in 2003....with A/C...getting slightly less.....

    I'm keeping it.

    And if GM wants my business, they will have to sell a vehichle that gets as much or better in mileage.

    Currently, I have slightly more than 80,000 miles on the odometer.
  • jsimon63jsimon63 Posts: 2
    I have a 96 2 dr 1.3 with auto trans and I have gotten close to your mileage numbers. I bought the car 2 years ago with 16K on it and it was a insurance right off with very minor damage to the front bumper and one head light. With a few parts tossed at it and back on the road I now have 57K on it. I run the A/C almost every day in this hot weather and so long as I keep the speed around 60 or above, it makes acceptable power. Anyway,your added cruise control... I added rosta cruise to mine when I got it on the road and was wondering about your hook up. I have mine hooked to the speed censor wire at the computer and my speed is rarely held steady, sometimes worse then others. Can you tell me what you did to make this tach hook up work? Thanks! I'm on my second Metro! Gotta love em
  • I'm really interested in getting a good used Geo Metro. What about engine life on the 3-cylinder? About how long before a rebuild is required? And can a 3-cylinder engine be really successfully rebuilt, or does it develop incorrectible balance problems over much time and miles?

    It's really neat to read about gas mileage based on actual experience, not on theoretical figures!

    Thank you!
  • In the Geo Metro, does an automatic get as good gas mileage as a stick shift? Different for different years?

    Thanks again.
  • The auto trans doesn't have over drive. The stick does, 5th gear is over drive. The auto trans has a fluid coupling and slips some even with a lock up converter. The 5 speed has a mechanical coupling, the clutch, and should not be slipping at all. The auto trans does just that, it shifts automatically, not always when you would like it too! The 5 speed you pick the gear that works best for your situation. The 5 speed does get better mileage.
  • lhansonlhanson Posts: 268
    No you loose about 10 mpgs. You can check it out at www.fueleconomy.gov.
  • had a 87 geo metro hatchback, wife drove it 107 miles to work and back, mostly nonstop new mex. driving got 54 miles to the gallon,. now she has a 98 chevy metro hatchback for same trip with ac gets 50 miles to gallon. think enviorment of trip may cost some mileage for others experiance.
  • the air conditioner compressor has a bearing in the pully wheel that can wear out and they do. when this happens it will lock down motor unless the belt is removed. the starter can be over heated and destroyed by trying to get the motor to turm over when it will not. any thing over about 9 seconds or continually trying it with out sufficent cooldown between tries{about 1 minute}.
    do not give the ac parts to dealer as they have value and can be sold by them. your compressor probaly needs a 30 dollar clutch to be as good as new. the rest of the parts would sell for over 1000 dollars as reconditioned. remanufactured compressor goes for around 300.
  • Driving at 55 mph or so, I've gotten as high as 62.6 mpg, on a 500 mile trip segment. With the air conditioning occasionally on, in city driving, I get 49-50 mpg. It has 107K miles.
  • i have a 2000 metro that gets around the 30-35 mpg. i drive a steady 60-65 mph on the x-way and on the yahoo site they all claim to get in the 40-60 mile mark. i have questioned them about this but they are just bragging. now you say you set the cruise brand new out of the box. the metro never came with cruise. the dealer may have installed it though.
  • the metro/geo has no lock up auto trans. never did
  • the newer car is heaver the the older one that is why you get poorer mileage.
  • My 93 Metro 3 dr with 5 speed 3 cylinder gets 50 mpg city and 48 mpg on long trips (we usually do 75-85 mpg when in the interstate) and we usually go up and down over mountain ranges.

    My wife's 2001 (I believe that is the year) 4 door LSI auto 4 cylinder gets as good as 37 mpg and as low as 25 mpg. It really needs an overdrive gear and torque converter lock up to make it really impressive on gas mileage.

    Even at 40 mph it feels and sounds like it needs to change gears. GM is very great about overdrive automatics, but on this GM/Suzuki model, the damn bean counters won out apparently to the detriment of the consumer and the reputation of the automatic equipped car.

    I'm not aware of any automatic for many years previous to it that came without overdrive...In this day and age, it is not excuseable. That is my only gripe about that car.
  • "do not give the ac parts to dealer as they have value and can be sold by them. your compressor probaly needs a 30 dollar clutch to be as good as new. "

    My question is : Do you think is a do it yourself job to install the 30 dollar clutch or the bearing that went bad on my AC?? My AC makes that noice ,I disconected the belt, noise no longe exist but I know I have the bearing problem as it make noise if I conect the bell., or when i spin the wheel that hold the belt in place. If one can do it were can I buy the parts? Any help would be greate. Love this little car. 2001 Chevy Metro LSI 4 door 1.3cc engine. :blush:
  • My '89 Geo Metro LSi used to get right around 60 MPG. After the engine was rebuilt and I only do city driving (no highway), I seem to be averaging just under 40 MPG. My commute though now is about 55 miles per week, so I just fill up once per month. Very convenient and very cost effective.
  • rblumerblume Posts: 3
    Yours probably has the 4-cyl (-10mpg) and the automatic (-10mpg), drive over 60 mph and the mileage drops as well---I have a 5spd manual 3-cyl, with 160,000, and with the pedal buried I get 38mpg, (Ihavent personally got much higher mileage but
    I drive it pretty hard)
  • lindavlindav Posts: 1
    Just one girl's experience: Back in the day, I drove an 89 Chevy Sprint for 11 years, a three cylinder, manual transmission with air conditioning. I regularly got 54 to 56 mpg, down to 48 if I used the AC. Really needed this vehicle at that time, because my daily commute was 122 mi. Sometimes got 400 miles per fill-up.

    Recently had a career change that will soon require me to drive 450 mi. per week. I had never forgotten my Sprint, so I researched both Sprint and its Geo successors as I approached this career change. I decided to locate a Geo Metro 4-cylinder, manual transmission, with air conditioning, between 95 and 97, and began a 5 state hunt for The Car. They are *very* hard to find and, combined with the fact that total cost was an important factor for me, I knew I had to locate one in functional but restorable condition -- couldn't afford the few fully reconditioned ones I was able to find. (These were running between $4500 and $6000.)

    Settled on a 96 2 door hatchback -- good interior, almost zero body rust, good AC, new exhaust system, new tires, good engine and tranny, 102,000 mi. Clearly needed a clutch pack, but gave me 40 MPG in less than optimum condition right off the lot for $1400. My mechanic added an axel and a front brake job to his list of needed repairs, but this was still within my budget.

    One serious piece of bad news almost undid me. Although the car was accident-free, a full inspection revealed the front portion of the frame was seriously rusted in strategic places. I had to decide whether to sell it back to the dealer, make $600 of mechanical repairs and expect the car to last a max of 18 months --- or, double my acquisition cost by adding a frame repair, and try to make the car immortal.

    I did my arithmetic, conservatively, and calculated that if I were able to sell off my lovely 2002 Dodge Stratus for $2000, the gas savings would pay for the Geo Metro *and* its repairs in nine months.

    So, I'm going for "immortal". A thorough restoration now will cut my gasoline cost in half for the foreseeable future. And I happen to *really* enjoy driving this car again. Not everyone would like it. But in return for feeling a little bit like Fred Flintstone behind the wheel, I also feel like I am beating The Establishment (just like the old days) by getting where I want to go in comfort, at half-price.

    I'm no mechanic, but I pay attention when my mechanic and my body man explain things, and I get under the hood or under the lift with them. I think I made a decision that will satisfy me, though it might not be for everyone.

    Hope this might help some others in their decision-making.

    Linda
  • Hi, I recently purchased a '91 Geo-Metro, 3 cylinder 5 speed. I just had a new muffler, tailpipe and o2 sensor put into it, plus I had the compression checked (it was good), the oil changed and a general tune-up. It runs just great, but there is a problem. I am only getting around 30, 31 mpg. This is all highway driving. What could the problem be? Shouldn't I be getting around 40+mpg? I live in North Dakota, and drive it to work and back which is 68 miles round trip. Straight highway all the way. Oh, and by the way, I know this is gonna sound really dumb (I am a woman), but how many gallons does my tank hold? :confuse: ">
  • rblumerblume Posts: 3
    if you have a repoir with your mechanic you might ask him to advance the timing for you, I had to advance mine as far as it would go to get decent acceleration/mileage, but if you get pinging under acceleration they would have to back it off for you, also keep it under 70mph,,, I only get about 8gallons in mine but I have to bury the gauge before I fill it---hope this helps
  • I had to sell my 94 Geo Metro recently after owning it for about 12 years. I consistently got 33 MPG all around, both city and highway. I often got 43 MPG on the highway. I haven't found another American car that has this good gas mileage since. U.S. automakers need to start making more fuel efficient cars like this one, or more medium-sized hybrids.

    I miss my Geo already, but I had to get a new car because it was beginning to die and I couldn't risk being stranded out in the desert with it.
  • hello everybody... when turn A/C on ... the RPM going down to much. anybody know where is the problem and how to fix it.
    thank you
    victor.
  • I didn't realize that they made this car with AC because the engine is so small. It seems to be drawing a lot of power that is affecting the engine. That's all I can say.
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