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Chrysler Pacifica Oil Problems

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  • dcgnlmgdcgnlmg Posts: 14
    After a year of battling, we found the problem! The piston rings were bad. There are two rings on each piston that have notches in them. Those notches are supposed to be offset from one another, but mine were lined up which allowed the oil to come through. The rings were also compressed which made it worse. They dealership had to take my engine apart and replace the rings, which is a hard and long process. But when they got into it, they found a lot of carbon, an oil by-product, which was a great confirmation of the problem! Good luck!
  • I've read all the previous posts and notice that most of you have 2005 models. I have a 2004 with 57,000 miles and have this same problem. Last 2 oil changes they have remarked that the oil is low and asked if I had noticed leaking (No!) However, I did call about a very loud knocking (not ticking) noise I got one cold morning when trying to start the car. They found the oil problem this last time ... a faulty pcv that was blowing the oil back into my air filter (thus no leaks on my garage floor). OK, so $105 later (pcv, filter & labor) and now I'm going in every 500 miles to have them check the oil level. At 1500 miles (of 3000 oil change schedule), I am 1/2 qt low. I questioned this (daughter of mechanic) and was told that "1 qt. per 1000 miles is normal." I have further questioned this with almost every mechanic I know who claim it's BS. I did buy the platinum extended warranty so will look to see if new O rings are covered. For those who have had the repair, has it solved the problem? Like many of you, we love this car and since it's paid for, the thought of putting out more $$ for something else is not what we want to do ... yet. I'm not sure what the dealer will say when I bring this up to them. Unfortunately, we live in a small midwest town with only one Chrylser dealership. On the flip side, I'm very glad that all of my car maintenance has been done at the dealer and thus, there is record of it.
  • Yes I DID have a 2004 Pacifica, Loved it except did not like the insecurity that I would run out of oil at any time , nor did not like having to check it so often....I too could barely go 500 miles w/ out having to add .... Also had a huge puddle of water on my passenger side floor one morning during the rain, I assume a leak from the front window... so that was it for us.... we traded and bought a more dependable foreign made Honda Pilot.... good luck w/ your oil issues....
  • Yes, when they replaced my o-rings about 8,000 miles ago I have not had any problems since then. I just checked it again about two weeks ago and it is still full. Please stay after your dealer and make sure they do an oil consumption test and document the findings. I am sure a recall will eventually happen, but in the meantime you have fight for something that is so crazy........for a dealership to stay is ok for a car to burn 1 quart of oil every 1,000 is absurd..............Good luck
  • Thanks for the feedback. I expect some resistance while trying to resolve the issue but will take all advice to "stay the course" before throwing in the towel on this car that I really like. Thanks again.
  • grugergruger Posts: 15
    The Concept is simple "Wear and Tear". The more you drive your car, the more carbon you will have build up in the engine, the more your pistons will wear at the same time.
    You all are thowing 1000's of dollars at what a $1 product can do. I sound like a oxymoron to you right now, but YOU WILL THANK ME LATER. I had the same problem of oil consumption in my PAC '05. Saw the same oil build up.
    Simple Solution.

    1) Change your Oil !!!
    2) Buy any additive oil "lubricator" product and add it to your motor oil when its WARM!!!.
    The product I added is "Howes Lubricator Miracle Master" ENGINE BLOCK SEALER & CONDITIONER. It's a 12 oz bottle for 89 cents. But like I said ANY lubricator product can do. And you DO NOT have to do this at every oil change. I have done it twice and have since seen a tremendous difference in engine performance and oil consumption. Can be used on Gas or Diesel Engines.

    Thank me later :shades:
  • pssimonpssimon Posts: 143
    For whatever reason, which isn't important at this point, I am in need of a new oil pan for my 2004 FWD 3.5L Pacifica. The threads are shot on the drain spout. Even though they plugged the drain spout when the damage occurred so I could keep using the car, it is not usable anymore. I need to replace the pan, so I can get a functioning drain spout. These pans are not available anywhere!!!

    I find it hard to believe that they aren't around. My dealer told me it is back ordered through Chrysler till at least June! I have been waiting since early April! Sad thing is I need an oil change now. At about 500 miles a week it adds up quickly. Once they remove that plug they say they won't be able to close it up again!

    If anyone knows where I can obtain a new oil pan I would be very grateful.

    Thanks in advance...

    ---Paul in Southern NJ
  • waterdrwaterdr Posts: 307
    All cars will burn a little oil....it is actually part of the emissions system. Vaporized oil will get sucked back into the intake and litteraly burned in the combustion chamber. You should never burn so much that you see any large loss between oil changes. I would think a half a quart every 6,000 miles might be in the range of "normal" for some cars....even on the extreme end.

    You can buy an oil separator which will actually capture the oil prior to putting back into the intake. These can be built with parts frm Home Depot for about $20 or you can buy complete for $60 to $100. Not sure if anyone has built any for PAC's, but the concept is the same no matter the car.

    The separator will actually capture the oil so you can actually measure the loss. I have one for my Mustang. The motor is all stock, but the car make 450 fwhp which is nearly double what the car made from the factory. The separator allows me to do two things:

    1 - Establish a baseline for oil loss (which is currently very little). That way, if the amount of oil increases, I will know if I have a problem and then would need to perform a compression test.

    2 - Burning oil can caused knock and ping when pushing 10 psi of boost on a car like this. So, separating the oil prevents this issue.
  • qpowerqpower Posts: 34
    Just couldn't stand the potential for trouble with this beast anymore! Traded it today for a new 08 T&C Touring Signature Edition - got a fine cash price ($27273) for the new vehicle and $13500 for the 05 Pacifica AWD Touring, DVD, Moonroof, and 46000 miles... that was well above auction prices for these cars. In retrospect, I had real concerns with the oil consumption of this engine and didn't want to wait for the inevitable.

    Good luck to the rest of you - if only Chrysler had acted in the best interests of its customers, I might still be driving the Pac...

    Geoff
  • yaknow9yaknow9 Posts: 1
    I have a 2005 AWD Touring Pacifica, in Dec 07 had Converter replaced!!! This to me is a result of the 3 qts low issues which was not really apparent to me until I had this work done. Now i'm doing the every 1000 mile oil consumption check pain!! I have the extended warranty until 100000 miles I'm at approx 61,000 now. I too love this car but now have my doubts. Why dosent Chrysler do a recall on this?? Maybe we all have to complian to get that going.
  • dcgnlmgdcgnlmg Posts: 14
    I started out with my 05 AWD Touring Pacifica burning a qt of oil ever 800 miles. I was jerked around by the company for about a year. They finally went in and found out that the rings at the bottom of the pistons were bad. It was a manufacturer issue. About 4000 miles after the rebuild my engine blew up: a piston broke in to tiny pieces, two rods broke and the block cracked. A new (re manufactured) engine was then put in the car and about 350 miles later the engine light came on. The dealership (a different one than the one who rebuilt the engine) did not install it correctly. Now, my car is at a third dealership getting ready to have the engine taken out for a third time in six months. This is getting ridiculous. Thank God I bought the extended warranty, but that doesn't provide coverage for all of the hassle and stress that my family has had to put up with. Chrysler needs to step up and do something, but they are not. It is just sad.
  • hozzhozz Posts: 1
    I too have the same problem with my 2006 Pacifica Touring....under 28k miles and it BURNS OIL. Check out my blog on what I have dealt with:

    http://home.comcast.net/~rjv76/site/
  • qpowerqpower Posts: 34
    I read your blog posts and you need to step up to the reality of owning a large, complex mechanical device!

    You do need to check oil levels every time you fill the gas tank, I am sure that this advice is within the owner's manual. You need to check tire pressures frequently too!
    This isn't to say that you need to like the exercise, rather that it is a function of ownership and maintenance of the vehicle. It may be too tiresome for you to own this vehicle!

    That said, I have posted here about my own 2005 Pacifica oil consumption issues and there is NO Doubt that Chrysler is hiding from their responsibilities to step up and claim this oil over-consumption as a function of poor engineering or faulty engine construction, you can take your pick...

    I solved the situation after running around with the local dealers over the issue by trading the vehicle back and buying a 2008 T&C van with a strong trade-in value. It is not an ideal situation and I liked some aspects of the vehicle, but frankly, there was more wrong with the ride handling too, that I decided to move on -

    Sooner or later, you will decide to move on, you need to make that choice!

    The whole incident is painful and egregious corporate behavior, especially as I had a VW New Beetle with oil overuse and VW absolutely fixed that!

    You can not fight them if they are intransigent, but you could hire big city lawyers and start a class action suit.... maybe...

    I got 46K miles use in less than three years and took the exit, receiving 13,5K for the trade on a $29K cost... good considering they started out at 11,2!

    Good Luck,

    Geoff
  • badpacbadpac Posts: 1
    This beast alone seems to be propping up the artificially high price of oil all by itself... My 04 Pac w/76K uses a quart every 800 mi. now. Hadn't realized when it started, probably around 70K. Having just gone over my extended warranty limit (70K) I will dump it unless anyone can tell me that chrysler is owning up to the debacle. Can anyone give a price as to what the o-ring replacement cost has been?
    Thanks.
  • angypangyp Posts: 1
    HI, my husband and I found this site after having the same oil consumption issues with our 2005 AWD Pacifica. Our dealership has been completely useless and downright awful to us since our engine seized up while we were driving.
    A couple issues we are having is that we had brought the car back to the dealership for its last oil change, and one of the very bright guys over there had miscalculated our oil change sticker by 2000 miles!!! We were over our change by what we thought was 500 miles, and came to find out it was really 2,500.
    We are still under 36,000 miles on this car, and from what we are reading, this should be a warrenty issue. ( we did also purchase the extended warrenty). We were just denied this morning, and don't know what to do. We live in a small town in Colorado, that doesn't have many dealerships, can we bring this car somewhere else and try and get it covered. Like I said, our dealership is not owning up, and when my husband went to meet with the mechanic, they had taken the sticker off the window!! We are not sure where to go from here, but obviously many of you are getting this covered under warrenty. I would appreciate any advice
  • bgyakobgyako Posts: 6
    Hi All,

    I have been reading these posts for months, and no one is being helped from Chrysler. I spoke to the dealer, the dealer sent me to customer service, they don't handle technical issues, I need to speak to STAR for technical issues, and only dealers are allowed to speak with star, and so on and so on. Here what I found out so far. Everyone on this post needs to:
    A) request from the dealer to speak to the District Manager (DMM) and file a complaint.
    B) File a CAR (pronounced care) case with a level 2 support (USA rep not India) rep 800-992-1997.
    C) I got the actual star#, call them everyday and complain. 800-850-Star.
    D) Lastly, get a ASE certified mechanic to confirm oil consumption issue, and file a small case law suit. It's simple and each case has to be represented by Chrysler in every county/state. This ill cause Chrysler to find a simpler resolution then paying attorneys to run around the country.
    By the way I to have a 2005 Pacifica touring with 2 QTS of oil consumption every 3K miles. I am on step D next......LOL
  • bgyakobgyako Posts: 6
    What's the site.
  • qpowerqpower Posts: 34
    Ah, revenge is sweet!

    The dealer was forced to offer me a superior trade-in value of $13,500 for my 2005 Touring with DVD and 46,000 miles towards a 2008 T&C Touring which has been trouble free so far.

    Revenge is knowing that our trade-in is still sitting unsold on the dealers lot now marked down to $13,495 !!

    Who got the best of that?

    We deserve better than the quality we've gotten out of this modern engine. I found the exit door, but someone needs to start a class action suit. There seems little doubt that many folks are very disappointed with the quality of this vehicle. :sick:
  • I just found this site and was appalled to read so many complaints about Pacifica's high usage of oil. I have a 2005 AWD model which I bought used from a dealer in Feb. 2007 after it was supposedly turned in on a lease. It had 17,890 miles on it. We love the vehicle's ride and overall performance, but I've noticed over the past year that in city and light highway driving it went through a quart or so of oil between oil changes. More recently, we started using it for long highway trips. That's when I noticed oil usage of 2 quarts or more between oil changes at 3000 miles.

    Since I bought an extended warranty with the vehicle, I brought it to my dealer, who services it routinely. They admitted that Chrysler has had this type of problem with the 3.6 liter engine for some time, but not owned up to it. They tested the engine and want to change the rings next Monday. Since this won't cost me more than the $100 deductible, I'm prepared to do that. But, some of you on this site have indicated nightmare scenarios of continuing engine problems, even after having that kind of repair was done.

    Is it worth my time and energy to do this, or simply try to trade the car in? It's only got 28,800 miles on it, plus the warranty, which lasts to 2011, is transferable (though God only knows if Chyrsler will be in business then!).

    Any suggestions?
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