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Midsize Sedans 2.0

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  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    I agree with you. My experience with Ford has been a lot better than my luck with Honda. I've had 4 Escorts, a German Fiesta, and 2 Jaguars. All have been very good.

    Regards:
    OldCEM
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    German Fiesta

    Oktoberfest meets Cinco de Mayo? :)
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    The Accord feels more "airy" and roomy to me, but its something intangible that I can't really back up, so I won't try to.

    Well, since EPA says Accord has 103 cubic feet of passenger volume vs. 96 for Mazda6, there must be a little extra space here and there in the accord. So what you say makes sense. I think the way some talk about the Mazda6 being "cramped" overstates the differences, however.
  • I'm not complaining about my luck with Honda either, they were inexpensive and reasonably durable. The Fords were also. Both where reasonably cheap to repair. The only huge POS we had was a Reliant and that was so long ago I can't be mad about it, the whole company has changed hands 3x since then.
    That and they redeemed themselves with the Grand Voyager that ran great and lasted a long long time.
    Honestly, everyone is nit-picking details, its very hard to make a bad choice in this segment in aggregate, although some choices are better for some people than others.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    There's an old expression....perception is reality. That 7 cubic feet might make a difference to some, a non-issue for others.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    So you use the actual key to unlock the door. Slide the FOB into the slot near the steering wheel and the FOB will start the car even though the Intellikey craps out.

    That's how I understand it.

    I hope I never have the opportunity to find out.

    You and me both! :)
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    From my understanding, Its not the Ikey that starts the car, per se. the sensors in the car scan for it, or rather the signal it puts out. if the car can not pick up that signal, it won't enable the starter. What the slot does, is puts the Ikey extremly close a sensor (not sure if its a different one) so its easier to detect the fob. Now I'm not a 100% sure of this next part, but i've read that the sensor behind the slot send out a signal that actually has a very, very, very small current to it that can power the Ikey just enough to send out its signal. I suppose you could test that by removing the battery from you Ikey, putting it the slot, then trying to start your car.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,284
    What about security with Nissan's system, what do you do when some hacker invents a key that can detect your "code signal" 6 months from now rendering your keyless start useless or vulnerable to attack?
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    very doubtfull. The equipment to do so is proprietary to nissan. Even their technicians have trouble pulling that info. And in order to do so, they'd need the key. and if you have the key, why would you need to figure out the signal coming from the key. not that it would be impossible, but I doubt somebody with the technical prowless to do so would be targeting nissan altima's.
  • If that were the case it seems like today's key fobs would have been cracked years ago and people would be walking around mall parking lots stealing at will.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The same would be true of garage door openers/homelink systems too, and you don't hear of that happening either.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    The Accord used to be stolen more than most other cars. I wonder how many 7th gen Accords (with the immobilizer system) have been stolen? If any.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Last I heard, the Escalade is now at the top of the Most Stolen list.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    It's already been done. I heard on the news, your car could be gone in 60 seconds, by a thief with a laptop and radio receiver.
  • zzzoom6zzzoom6 Posts: 425
    not that this is related to midsize cars really, but still an interesting article on how anti-theft systems in cars can be overcome... and how insurance companies sometimes won't believe that these systems are defeatable and then won't pay for your stolen car!!!
    link Pinch My Ride!
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Don't know about that. This thihg was one of my favorite cars of all time. I equipped it with a 4 tube header, Pacesetter low restriction exhaust, removed all the emission controlls, retuned the Weber duece, and fitted it with a high performace clutch. The little Ford 1.6 would scream.

    Regards:
    OldCEM :)
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    I agree with you - except for Chrysler. They seem to be trailing the pack on quality control again.

    Regards:
    OldCEM
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    Last I heard, the Escalade is now at the top of the Most Stolen list.

    Those lists can be misleading. Accords and Camrys are always near the top because there are so many of them out there.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    This article tells us more about the system and what it is capable in the future. It expands on where it can and cannot compete with OnStar, navigation systems, and sattelite radio.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    Mule pics of a new '09 grille and the hybrid mule.

    You might recall the renderings?
    image

    Ford had them taken down where they could because they are, according to some Ford sources on other forums, "spot on" renderings of the '09 production model. Doesn't confirm anything yet but very interesting to say the least.

    Note that the covered grille in the mule pics closely mirrors that of the rendering's grille.
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