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Midsize Sedans 2.0

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  • You are exactly correct in your observation, and it exists on most of the forums here on Edmunds.com. Instead of objective analysis, it's mostly "my car is better than yours." Freud was right . . .

    Some folks are downright fanatical about the brand of car they own, and wouldn't own another brand. The problem is most have never actually spent some serious seat time in the other cars they bash, therefore their comments are irrelevant.
  • drwilscdrwilsc Posts: 140
    I bought a 2007 XR and received 2 rebates, a $1500 rebate and $1000 'conquest cash' since I traded in a non-GM vehicle, for a total of $2500 off. I bought the car in August and do not believe the conquest cash is available any longer, at least on the XR. I also don't think the 2008 Aura's have any rebates currently

    My original plan was to wait for the arrival of the 2008 Accords and compare the two cars, but I simply could not pass up this offer. A similarly equipped 08 Accord would have been about 4 grand more. My budget was tight and I liked the Saturn, so I decided just to go with it.
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    Excellent deal ! I was offered $1,500, then later on, as in a few months, I heard of $1,750. Now $2,500 off is really getting it down there. As for the 2008 Accord, I personally am disappointed in the looks of the new one, inside and out. Do believe the seats are a tab bit better. I prefer the '07.

    Did your dealer have any side sticker for add-ons of pin stripes or window etching, or the like?

    I take it the trade-in price went well. That was the point where I lost them.
    L
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    If the Aura Comparison sales tactic worked wonders as you claim, then they would continue to do it indefinitely.....

    Why stop?
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    Oh, and for the record, Saturn did NOT offer any "deep discounting" or any "big time rebates". And IMO, after driving her new Aura a few times, they don't need to.

    Fantastic!!! But in a visit to Saturn's website, they do indeed have rebates on the Aura across the board nation wide I believe. Not only that, but last I checked, the Accord and Camry were still outselling the "no need to discount" Aura.....
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    the salesperson at the Saturn dealer said that a fair amount of people did test-drive all three models, and at least 90% of them picked the Aura over the Camry and Accord. Not only owners of current Saturns, but also Honda, Toyota, and Nissan owners as well.

    Wow, the SATURN salesperson said that? I'm amazed, astounded, and shocked and awed...... ;)

    I think every salesperson at the Honda dealership would agree that the Accord is a better car in every way than the Aura..... ;)
  • chronochrono Posts: 149
    Didn't think I'd get so many reactions here. You know that C&D comparo was using an XE not an XR.

    As for the cheapness, I do agree that there are some cheap bits here and there on the Aura. 2008 Aura solved some of those issues already. And honestly I think my Accord has the same amount of cheap plastics. It's just Honda is better at masking those then the competition although everyone is catching up.

    A pretty good comparo written by Autoweek shows that the XR is very competitive.

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070126/FREE/70118010/1528/F- REE

    As for my trade in. I've been to three dealers all of which are quoting me similar pricing which is kind of depressing since I really want to pull the trigger. Like others have mentioned there's 1500 rebate and a 1000 conquest rebate for 07's.

    I'm actually considering the new Malibu if things don't work out on an 07 Aura. The only thing I don't really like is the front end styling. That grill is huge! One of my favorite things about the Aura is the exterior. The Malibu will be priced better though. An LT2 is, if I remember correctly starting at about 22500. That's without the V6 package. Package pricing hasn't been release yet but I'll assume about 1000-1500 dollars. Plus the LT2 comes with standard suede seats and adjustable pedals. At least that's what I've read so far about that trim level.
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    Well, wouldn't the Aura XR '07 be the deal then at $21,500? Not to say that the 2008 Aura and Malibu won't both be discounted upon release. But perhaps those rebates are buy $1,000 off. Of course a $1,000 + another $1,000 off by the dealer on a New Malibu '08 could be a good deal in that it is one year newer, if you sell a car every say three years. Just a thought. - Loren
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    Looked over that article. Interesting how the Aura lost to Camry in the slalom. Seems like the long wheel based cars don't fare as well. Or is that the wheel base to width ratio? Anyway, it happens with sports cars losing to little, yet wide cars, like say a Mini -- oh doh! - that's a sports car. Anyway, it happens. The car wins the lateral G testing against the Camry, which evidently doesn't have a way to totally take stability off, if I got that right. The Chrysler 300 was limited that way in testing. Oh well, guess most family cars never make it to the race track. :shades: L
  • ykangykang Posts: 88
    You sure have a poor memory.
    Would this refresh your memory?
    Does that mean Sonata's front end will no longer look like 1998 Accord? :confuse:
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We are here to compare the features and attributes of the CARS!!!

    We're not here to snipe at each other and that just has to stop. Who copied whom first does not matter. What you think someone elses biases are does not matter. It's the specifics of the vehicles themselves contrasted with each other that we should be focusing on. This continuing oneupmanship is unnecessary and certainly not conducive to a productive conversation.

    We have GOT to stick to the cars and drop all this personal stuff. :mad:
  • Fantastic!!! But in a visit to Saturn's website, they do indeed have rebates on the Aura across the board nation wide I believe.

    Wrong again!

    I checked out the site, and noticed only financing offers for the '08 Aura. And 5.9% is for 3 years is pretty pathetic IMO, since one can easily do better at a credit union. No cash-back incentives posted anywhere. As for the '07, well duh! Everyone is offering incentives to unload the '07 models this time of year, including Honda. When she purchased the car in JULY, locally, there were no such incentives or cash-back deals, and the financing rates weren't very stellar either.

    Face it, there are other excellent cars in the midsize class besides the Accord.

    BTW, I'm taking a break from this discussion, since all I seem to read lately are comments made from certain members holding their car on a pedestal while belittling others for their decisions to buy something else, all the while throwing out assumptions and "facts" that just don't hold true anymore.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,699
    I'd like to see people list 5 top features or characteristics of their chosen, favorite, owned, whatever car that they'd like me to know about.

    Pat asked posters to do that in some discussion in the past and it was interesting. It helps potential shoppers like myself know what's good about that car.

    I have a potential new or used car in the future in months to give a new driver in the family access to a car. Both cars currently are full-sized. A mid-sized car is my most likely purchase, new or used.

    This message has been approved.

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Why don't you stick around and help us get back on the right track? :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes, listing the top features of your car (or someone else's) that you like is a great way to get information out here that can actually be useful to someone making a shopping decision.

    It's also okay to list a few things about your car that you'd like to change.
  • It's also okay to list a few things about your car that you'd like to change
    I have a 2006.5 KIA Optima.The trip computer has no MPG so I would REALLY like to have that. :blush:
  • It's also okay to list a few things about your car that you'd like to change.

    Here it goes... that's tough because I really like my car a lot!

    2006 Honda Accord EX 4-cyl (cloth)

    I have a power-height controlled seat; why not spend the extra $2 Honda and make it FULL power? Well, they did for 2008 at least.

    Exterior styling was a weak point in this car; the rear end is nice with the LEDs but the front is kind of non-descript.

    Stability Control across the lineup would've been nice too, like Hyundai did.

    Honda has fixed my gripes for the past model, while introducing some new ones (I sat in an LX-P and an EX 4-cyl Accord Sunday - interior quality is no longer head of the class IMO - major disappointment as this was a HUGE plus of getting the Accord over competitors). Now I won't have a clue where to start next time around!
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Some people discuss cars, you chose to discuss people. If you care for automotive discussion, talk cars!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,623
    We did this not too long ago, but if it helps prospective buyers then great:

    Kia Optima
    5 likes:
    * Good blend of ride quality and handling
    * Roomy, high-quality interior but reasonable exterior size
    * Good fuel economy (I4, 5MT or 5AT) for the class
    * Warranty
    * Price/value

    Needs improvement:
    * Better availability of ABS/ESC package (e.g., can't get it on the base trim without an "appearance" package, and even then it's very rare--only 3 LX models with the package in my entire region when I checked a few weeks ago).
    * More power for the V6 (this is not an issue for me as I prefer the I4, but the V6 is outclassed by just about every other car in this segment).
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    A pretty good comparo written by Autoweek shows that the XR is very competitive.

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070126/FREE/70118010/1528/F- - REE


    I found that article to be very enlightening. Unfortunately, we are no longer in the market for a new car, having purchased a 2007 3.0-liter V6 SEL AWD Ford Fusion 9 1/2 months ago on Dec. 4, 2006. Still, it's good to be informed about what's available and how the different models compare to one another.

    People who are in the market for a new car certainly have a lot of good mid-size sedans to choose from these days. I don't believe Accord and Camry dominate the segment the way they used to. Our Fusion is a very good example of an alternative, especially the SEL variation.
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