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Midsize Sedans 2.0



  • rwdfanrwdfan Posts: 15
    I saw this car in Columbus, IN. Just south of Indianapolis. I don't recall the dealer name, but it's the only one in the town. I'm seriously considering it, but I will have to wait until July when the lease of my current car expires. Thanks for the feedback.What's the Popular Equip. Package ?
  • rwdfanrwdfan Posts: 15
    Thanks for the link, but this is the new Sonata, it's actually a 2011. I'm looking into the previous model, but still new. The price on the 2011 is near $20,000, out of my budget. Thanks anyway.
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    The article is actually about the 2011. They just have the wrong model year in the headline.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    If you're cash constrained look for a low mileage used vehicle. You'll get a lot more bang for the buck and most will still have factory warranty.
  • shabadoo25shabadoo25 Posts: 216
    You can get the base model for a lot less than that sticker price. Unless you mean you really want a $15k sticker and plan on paying $12k...
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The PEP includes things like audio controls on the steering wheel, a trip computer, automatic headlights, and a power driver's seat.
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    I think I discovered why the Camry still sells well. Old people like soft, cushy, floaty rides. Since you can't buy a Crown Vic anymore, and the Grand Marquis is rarely seen on any lots, they go to Toyota. :shades: Us younger people who like a sporty, much firmer ride, go with the Fusion.

    I used to own a Camry Hybrid, the only time that car was quiet was when it was parked. Even with the engine off and in EV it made noise. It was poorly made, had wind noise, the sunroof stuck, and the seat materiel was thin. Toyota quality? NOT! I have over 13K miles on my 2010 Fusion Sport and I don't have a single complaint about it's quality. It took about a week to find many faults in the Camry, and I was very disappointed in the quality. I really don't see the hype in Toyota, I really don't, not after owning a Prius and a Camry. The only thing I guess is the soft mushy ride that old people like.
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    Only partially wrong, I admit I missed one part. :) If you are already maxed out on your deductions, where you pretty much got back what you already paid out, which is where it was when I filed the year I got the Prius, it only netted me about $50. I do understand it takes it off the top, and is not a deduction, but if you are in certain tax brackets, it doesn't do much for you.

    The point I was trying to make though is it doesn't take it off the price of the car, you still pay what you pay for the car, it doesn't come off the price of the car, and it wont be until you actually file your taxes that you find out how much you get back with that credit.

    In your example, if you got a $7500 tax credit and the max tax you owe was $5000, and with the credit it brought you down to zero tax owed, you only get back the taxes you paid out, so if you paid out $4500, and would have owed $500, you get $4500 back. So in theory it reduces the cost of the car by $4500, but not the $7500 of the tax credit. So it all depends on which tax bracket you are in.

    In any case, I still don't see it helping to sell a $40K car the size of a $20K Prius. Not with a Chevy badge on it.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    Correct on all points.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Never underestimate the residents of California.
  • carstrykecarstryke Posts: 168
    i agree with your decision....not only will your friends not bash their head trying to get in and out of your sonata, but the venza has a huge crossover ground clearance (8.1) so you can easily take it camping and stuff, and it will swallow your luggage at 30.7 cubic feet
  • carstrykecarstryke Posts: 168
    you get what you pay for........i found that out first hand with my old Kia
  • syitalian25syitalian25 Posts: 303
    The 2010 Sonata is a good car, they were easily selling the base model anyways before the 2011 came out - now Hyundai is offering ridiculous rebates to try and clear the leftovers off the lots. It's an incredible bargain, especially compared to anything else you are going to get for $15K. A base Civic? HA
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    hopefully he likes how that 19 inch rim/tire combo rides on other than smooth roads, and doesn't have a heart attack after finding out how much it costs to replace the tires.
    are 19 inch rims available on any of the popular mid size sedans? :D
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    He got the V6. I think that comes with 20" threads. Good luck on replacing those.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    you can't understate rollin' on dub's, especially when you are over 50. :)
  • wayne21wayne21 Posts: 221
    you can't understate rollin' on dub's, especially when you are over 50

    I think that in reality I've just outgrown (or perhaps outaged) the midsize vehicle market. And maybe the camry (or venza) is in fact my "crown vic". On the bright side of being over 50 (and always living on yesterday's money instead of tomorrow's) the cost of tires, etc. is insignificant. The 30k limit was an arbitrary number for us (9 months savings). Had we wanted to spend more we certainly would have. But we bought what we both saw as the "vehicle of our wants and needs" and are very happy with the decision.

    Enjoyed the forum. May God bless each of you with your car decisions.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    edited March 2010
    you don't have to justify your purchase to me or anyone else, but my thinking is you should have posted on a venza forum about why you bought one instead of a mid size sedan, as opposed to pointing out on mid size sedan forum why none of the best sellers did not meet your needs.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Well, he did evaluate several mid-sized sedans before deciding on the SUV. So it's a lot more on-topic than, e.g., recent threads on an hybrid compact hatchback. Or sticks vs. automatics. ;)
  • carstrykecarstryke Posts: 168
    edited March 2010
    I would gladly pay for 20's just to stay out of a bargain car (hyundai/kia) :lemon:
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