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Midsize Sedans 2.0



  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    edited May 2013
    I think it is the hills. The stretch between West Springfield to the State Dept in DC. has some pretty major hills. Actually the whole route is up and down....and I don't think the downhill stretches make up for it. With the cruise on, it makes the tranny downshift, sometimes two gears in order to maintain speed. Heck, here is the route:

    I can't wait to get going on vacation, as the more rural parts of my trip are very flat.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159

    What Hyundai did was lie and fudge the EPA test. The SAE ratings change does not signify a lie by the manufacturer, but rather different guidelines to rate engines by. There is a difference.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited May 2013
    I would avoid using cruise on hills severe enough to ask for more than one downshift..actually even one downshift FTM. That is certaiinly one reason behind the low number. But given your description and coasting down those same hills, it does sound especially low.

    On a different note...

    "Potbelly Sandwich Shop"
    "Magic Gourd"
    "Sizzling Express"

    too funny..

    If I lived in your neighborhood, why do I have this sense I'd put weight on?? :sick:

    Hey..cski...maybe that's where your fuel mileage has gone?? lol ;)
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    I assume those are fine french dining establishments in my area, which of course I frequent daily. There is a classical harpist at "Magic Gourd" from 11 to 2. LMAO.
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    That's it exactly.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    That's not really the route you drive right?
    Most cars now shut the fuel off when coasting, so shifting into neutral doesn't really buy you anything.
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    edited May 2013
    Sorry man....not following your logic.

    Yes, it is the real route I drive.
    No, cars do not shut off fuel in neutral, especially with a manumatic transmission. I have never even heard of a regular ICE car that shuts off fuel at idle/neutral, except for hybrids.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    He said (implied) coasting in gear not neutral. Cars shut off fuel while coasting in gear.
  • blh7068blh7068 Posts: 376
    I have a '12 Sonata 2.0 T...average mid 20s for my mix of driving around town... and have gotten as high as 37 on the highway.

    Ive read plenty on the poor mileage from both 2.0 and 2.4 owners- so dont take this as me saying its not happening...Im just providing an example of where its not.

    For those that have the turbo- inconsistent/out of spec spark plug gapping has been discovered for many that have that model. Better mileage and performance resulted once that was taken care of.
  • Interesting info on the 2.0T plug gap. The better half's Sonata has over 78,000 miles so I may just put a fresh set of plugs in it.
    A friend has the Hyundai Atenza. The Dealership is tracking his mileage and loading a gas credit card to make up the difference between claimed and actual mileage.
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    A Hyundai what? What is an Atenza? Do you mean Azera? In foreign markets the Mazda 6 is called the Atenza. Lol.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    As Dudleyr posted, fuel shuts off when coasting, not the engine.
    I found your route unusual since you said you drive from West Springfield, which is in Massachusetts and your map started in West Hartford Connecticut.
    Also, the Berlin Turnpike has tons of lights and the interstate is only a few miles east of it.
    Personally, I take I-84 to I-81 to 15 to 270, so mainly through PA.
    It's longer, but a better ride. I try to stay away from I-95 and the NYC-DC corridor.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    I have done part of that route many times - Bethlehem PA to DC. 40 mpg or so in my Scirocco, and 10 mpg (or less) in my '73 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham with a 472 ci V-8 (7.7 liters). Weighed as much as a Suburban and was 2 feet longer. I could lay down in the trunk either direction. And this was back when the national speed limit was 55, so I was not going very fast. I imagine that Caddy would get about 5 mpg at 80 mph - you could just about see the fuel gauge moving.

    So While 26 mpg is not very good for a modern 4 cyl sedan it could be a lot worse. ;)

    Switching to that Scirocco was what opened my eyes to good mpg.
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    edited May 2013
    Obviously there is a map mistake, but I checked the link, and my route comes up (for me) Hmmm.

    My commute is from Burke/W Springfield VA to Washington DC. About 18 miles each way. I have never been to Connecticut or Massachusetts!!
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,179
    It looks like all of us have a different map show up based on our own input w/ google maps. It is the only thing that makes sense of all these different routes you guys are seeing. Sorry. Link backfired on me! :confuse: :)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    That explains a lot! You know what they say, 'It takes a computer to really screw things up'. ;)
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,345
    edited May 2013
    What a difference 5 years and a bunch of gvt intervention can make. My bros had a 68 Sedan De Ville, same 472 but obviously much less encumbered. I used to borrow it at times and used to get 21 Imp so corrected to about 17.7 US. Mind you this was at 50 to 55 and a pretty gentle foot. I loved that car..just beautiful lines. I liked it so much I sought out a 69 for myself a few years later. Oddly that one never did better than a little under 20 Imp. And of course the 69 didn't have the same handsome look up front as the 68. Boy would they ever haul tho if you threw mileage out the window. The 68 was quick to overheat I remember when trying on Dodge 440's of the era on a famous uphill climb around here. But it gave the two in the 440 such a run for their money I'm sure they must still remember the 'almost' spanking by the big Caddy..

    Talk about old memories...sigh...the Scirocco. Absolutely loved (still do) the lines on that car. I couldn't afford one so ended up with a brand new Dasher of the same era. To this day I remember spanking a Trans Am (guy I used to work with on a welding line building Chevy vans years ago, had one) at a light one day when we both knew we were gonna give 'er. He passed me at about 35 or 40 mph. I betcha he still remembers that day too. Lotsa fun..
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,232
    edited May 2013

    See the "saddr=home" part? That tells Google Maps to start at your home address (that you told Google at some point). When I click the link it starts at my home address in the Chicago suburbs. If you do a fresh map link using your home address instead of the Home identifier it should be the same for everyone.

    Edit: I recommend you not use your actual home address as you probabl don't want to post that to a public forum. Use your city, zip code, or the address of the local police department :shades: instead.
  • Ha! yeah Azera, the "luxury" model Sonata. Some of these car names are getting as weird as new prescription drug titles. ;)
    I ordered four new Denso plugs from Rock Auto. Will bore everyone with my plug gap findings.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    OH I loved that Scirocco. Mine was a white '80. 1,950 lbs of fun. Incredible manual steering, giant single wiper blade, golf ball shifter, VDO gauges. I was very sad when it sold.

    Back on topic, I do find it amazing that my new Accord weighs nearly 1,300 lbs more, has 2.5 times the hp, much more interior room, many more features and still gets better mpg. Of course you could switch it up and wonder what kind of mpg they could get from a 2,000 lb vehicle using today's tech.
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