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Midsize Sedans 2.0

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  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    I just saw an article on the internet about a New Brunswick lady who bought a Smart for 2 (2005) used for $5000. 30 days later it died, and due to the design of the car, the engine could not be repaired, but only replaced....for $14,000!

    Not so Smart it if you have a problem it seems. I hope their newer designs, and the one that you own, fares better. Also, I found it funny that a ladies car trouble was in the news!!! I guess for folks that live ABOVE Maine, it's too cold for thieves and murderers! (jeez, I wanna kill this guy, but first I have to shovel 4 feet of snow, after which I am too tired and I've come to my senses)!
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,652
    I've only owned 3 Hondas...all 4 cyl, and only the current one is an automatic, but I've always heard that Honda's with a V6 "eat" trannies.

    There have been well publicized problems initially with the Odyssey and TL, and anecdotal evidence with other vehicles. I'm not certain if these instances were caused by abuse/towing etc.

    I'm not certain if the newer trannies have issues, but I'd stay away from a V6 with a CVT even if it was an option.

    Of course, I could be wrong ;)
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,652
    wow...expensive engine :) You could buy a "newer" corvette engine for half that (not sure it would fit :shades: )

    seems odd that you could take it out to replace it but not take it out to repair it...

    Odd little things...
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    edited June 2013
    I might as well print the recall. There were over a MILLION potential transmissions with a second gear failure caused by overheating and the gear teeth chipping or broken. Big time, well known recall on Accord, TL, Odyssey, and almost every vehicle with the 3.5 liter V6, 5 speed auto powertrain combo.

    Here it is! Recall Date:
    APR 15, 2004
    Model Affected:
    2004 Honda Accord (it says Honda Accord but that is because I used it as search parameter. If you search for a 2004 TL, the same recall is displayed).
    Summary:
    ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
    Consequences:
    GEAR FAILURE COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION LOCKUP, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
    Remedy:
    ON VEHICLES WITH 15,000 MILES OR LESS, THE DEALER WILL UPDATE THE TRANSMISSION WITH A SIMPLE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE TO INCREASE LUBRICATION TO THE SECOND GEAR. ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000 MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2004, FOR PILOT, ODYSSEY, AND MDX OWNERS. OWNERS OF THE ACCORD VEHICLES WILL START RECEIVING LETTERS ON JUNE 28, 2004, AND ON JUNE 29, 2004, FOR OWNERS OF THE TL AND CL VEHICLES. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
    Potential Units Affected:
    1099796
    Notes:
    HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.)

    Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2004/honda/accord/recalls/#ixzz2VHoa079R

    It is important to know if this repair has been done BEFORE you consider buying a used one. If it doesn't shift right, don't buy it.
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 879
    It's very simple to find out if a recall has been issued and if a repair has been done. Just call a dealer and give the. The VIN number and they can tell you if that vehicle was affected (generally, not all of them are). We had that issue when buying a used Vibe and found out ours was not one of the affected cars. There is a very large recall going on now for certain GM models. This time our Vibe is one of them -- it's 9 years old, has 100,000 miles on it and has never shown any signs of a problem. Recalls don't always mean a car is a poor choice -- sometimes it means the manufacturer is being extra cautious because of a certain number of problems.
  • scwmcanscwmcan Niagara, CanadaPosts: 386
    Sorry the deal breaker comment was directed to the OP not you, the original message said that no heated steering wheel was a deal breaker.
    Also if I was a little snippy last night sorry, but I for some reason felt I was being attacked, I am sure today that wasn't your intention.
    I am also sure that for some people it is a more desired feature than others.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,444
    I've got a 2013 Fusion and have experienced the same thing.
    Try experimenting with lowering various windows.
    I have a sunroof and usually drive with it cracked open and the right rear window down.
    The air gets sucked in the back window and swirls around to the left side and forward, then out the roof.
    It provides a nice breeze.
  • scwmcanscwmcan Niagara, CanadaPosts: 386
    Mine is a 2005, the lady in nova scotia as I recall drove the car with the oil light on. Even so the engines car be rebuilt ( for a much lower cost), the problem is the Mercedes dealers don't really want to be bothered actually repairing anything, they just throw new parts at it, so instead of fixing the engine they wanted her to buy one for $14,000. When they were still under warranty ( and even now if you are foolish enough to fall for it), they would replace the turbo instead of the $5 gasket that was the actual cause of an oil leak at the turbo.
    The cars aren't bad at all once you are used to them ( and get it repaired by a non dealer or dyi).

    As for why a convertible, it the spring summer and fall it is plenty hot enough to have the top down ( as a matter of fact here around Toronto it gets hot enough that you can't have the top down need to have the A/C on instead). So far this year I have had the top down about 20 times driving home from work ( since March).
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    Sorry, I actually thought that gimmeestdtranny was the one with the Smart, and he lives in Nova Scotia....I had mid size sedan overload!
  • scwmcanscwmcan Niagara, CanadaPosts: 386
    No problem it can get confusing sometimes, I think he said he lived in Northern Ontario though ( unless I am confused too?)
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    I just read a few articles about the Dart, which is actually a Fiat Giulia underneath. How does Chrysler keep getting things wrong?

    1) They keep merging with European companies and then peddling whatever comes out of the merger, instead of designing their own. For those of us that remember Fiat, selling a Dodge and Fiat mix doesn't exactly inspire any reliability confidence with potential buyers

    2) It is a great looking car, quite handsome and aggressive looking. It should be a hit, but Dodge decided to use a big flower in the instrument panel. Why????

    3) there are 3 engine choices, none of which have 200hp. Sporty car buyers want 200hp!!!

    So, Dodge... offer a 100k warranty, nix the flower, and add 25 hp!!! Easy to fix!
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 790
    edited June 2013
    So, Dodge... offer a 100k warranty, nix the flower, and add 25 hp!!! Easy to fix!

    A 100k warranty and a different name would go a very long way.....most of the target market has no knowledge of the original Dart, so there's no equity or value in the name. It just sounds dumb without the background info....

    Resurrecting names from historical models is rarely a wise idea, in my opinion. The Dodge Dart (and Plymouth Valiant) weren't all that great, they just didn't suck as much as their domestic competitors at the time. The Slant-Six engine used in most Darts and Valiants is responsible for most fond memories of the old compacts...

    And resurrecting names from models that sucked in recent history is the kiss of death! (See 2010-present Ford Taurus for more info). Why not change the Focus to Pinto and Fusion to Granada while they're at it?
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    Lol.Calling the Focus a Pinto!!! Lmao. Toyota blew it the other way around though, by introducing their new two door, rear drive FR-S sports car as a Scion, instead of a Toyota Celica. Scion already has the TC! Almost everyone remembers the Celica, and an all wheel drive turbo model could have been called the GT-S.
  • The new Fusion is more like the Maverick than the Granada, my first car was a Granada, and it was a total POS that gave new meaning to "Fix Or Repair Daily"! My new Fusion is nothing like that, it's more like a mini Mustang, just like the Maverick was way back when!
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    edited June 2013
    Well, I got stuck driving my moms Reliant K Wagon (1983 model). It had "Rich Corinthian Vinyl" in burgundy of course. It had a 2.2 liter 4 banger (and boy did it have NVH), a 3 speed slushbox, but to it's credit it didn't break down, the A/C worked, and the vinyl was so thick that it never tore or wore down. Actually, I bet the material would last 1000 years in a landfill....which of course is bad. Lol.
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    edited June 2013
    I can't believe this. I am not a Batman fan, so I guess this Optima was used in one of the movies.

    http://www.edmunds.com/photoflipper/?year=2013&make=Kia&model=Optima

    Check out pictures starting at 29 and 30.

    I know pretty much everything about every 2011- and up Optima made, but I was unaware about an Edmunds.com "Batman" trim package. I would of course like more information on this model. Is it bulletproof? Does it have an afterburner? Do I get a suit with it? The utility belt with the grappling hook would be nice!
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,675
    edited June 2013
    For those of you looking, it starts at about pic #45.
    And it's not OUR "Batman" trim package. If it were, I'd be asking for a ride in it, or at least a pic next to it, for sure.

    Need help navigating? kirstie_h@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,045
    Point taken Kristie, but I have never seen these pictures on another official automobile publication!
    The pictures are on exactly these pages:
    29, 30, 34, 45, 49, 50 and 51. I looked through all 167 so my information would be accurate. :P

    There is a bat-wing embroidered in the seat back on 29, and then a grill shot on page 30, etc.
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,621
    edited June 2013
    Mani:

    I'm a long time Accord owner, and I recommend that car. I've owned a 2002 LX, a 2008 EXL navi, and now a 2013 EXL navi. Wow I love the new car. Just great. CVT is excellent imho, and so I wouldn't have worries there.

    The Accord got much higher safety ratings in the small offset collision test than the Camry, which did not pass.



    Check out at the 2 minute mark, when the Head of the Insurance Institute of America says: "Both of these Toyotas earned poor crash ratings. Toyota engineers have a lot of work to do to catch up with their competitors."
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    Kia teamed up with DC Comics and made "super hero" versions of Optima and they tour around to bring attention to a charity that DC is involved with involving hunger in Africa. I went to the car show in Atlanta a few months back and the Batman and Superman Optimas were on display in the Kia exhibit.
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