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Honda Odyssey Brakes

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  • doggrandmadoggrandma Posts: 144
    I am looking at the EX trim, and all of a sudden they seem to be scarce. Do you know of any reason for that?
  • I do not know anything about this. My 2008 Odyssey is an EX, and at the time, there seemed to be more EXLs available. The dealer that I purchased my Odyssey through ended up trading with another dealer for the color that I wanted in the EX model. I would suggest that you negotiate the price on the EX model and then request that the dealer find the color that you want. I purchased my Odyssey in June of 2008, so the dealerships were getting ready for the 2009 models to arrive. This being the case, I had to pay extra to cover the transportation costs. They had to transfer it from across the state of Tennessee, as no local or semi-local swaps were available. I think that it was about $200 or $300. It was worth it to me, as the only colors left on the lot in Memphis were gray and sand, and I wanted a more brillant color, which was the Ocean Mist Blue. Good luck.
  • vinijinvinijin Posts: 28
    I also have ODY 09 EX with same issue. Grinding sound and steering vibrations when I apply brakes above 60 MPH. Already replaced brake pads and resurfaced rotors at 20K miles. MU ODO reading is 40K and started this problem again. Dealer told me to install new rotors. What should I do ?
  • 1. Were replacement brake pads and rotors Honda parts? If so, I can understand the problem. Those "super" hard honda brakes are the problem. You got 20K miles out of the originals and 20K miles out of the new ones. Makes sense!
    2. How much wear did the brake pads have? Unless you live in hilly/mountainous area or you do lots of hard agressive stopping I would bet you still had 50% or more of the brake pad life.
    As, I posted previously I replaced my brakes with Akebono brand ceramic brake pads. This stoped the grinding and squealing and it has been close to 40 miles since replacement.

    If you you replace the brake pads again, most shops will reccommend that the rotors be resurfaced. If rotors are worn uneven or somewhat warped this may be needed. However, resurfacing may not be needed. It is hard to know without inspecting them.

    Unless you are overaggressive with the brakes, this is definitely a Honda parts problem. I would complain to American Honda. Should be a 800 # in your owners manual. Or start with this 1-800-999-1009 voice prompt #7. In spite of being beyond the 36K mile warranty I would open a case and they may offer to pay for the repair, but you need to be firm with them.
  • vinijinvinijin Posts: 28
    I called American Honda and they told me that it does not seems like a manufacturing defect. They suggested that I can take to another Honda dealer for 2nd opinion but I have to pay diagnostic charges. I think I will just buy new Honda rotors and Akebono brake parts and ask my local mechanic to install these parts. I think it will be waste of time and money to get it checked from a second dealer. Basically, they all will say the same thing that it is not a manufacturing defect.

    I drove Toyota Sienna for 11 years and used to replace brake pads after every 60-70,000 miles. Now with Honda Odyssey it seems like every 20,000 miles. I hope my problem will be solved after installing Akebono brake pads.
  • I wouldn't incur this expense on your own, as this is a factory defect on the Honda Odyssey. I just spoke to my local dealer, and there is another recall on the brakes! I have an appointment to have this repaired at no cost to myself, and the dealership has also agreed to supply me with a loaner car. This is the third time that I am taking my vehicle back to the dealership regarding the soft brake and squealing issues. It is certainly not normal, and given the amount of money that I have paid for a "quality" vehicle, I going to hold Honda to a higher standard than their earlier comment that "this is just typical for the Odyssey". Good luck!
  • tickellertickeller Posts: 13
    edited May 2010
    We have a 2006 Odyssey (EXL-DVD) with less than 30k miles on it. Since last summer we noticed the van vibrates when the brake is pressed at 60 mph or higher (it does not do it at lower speed). We took the van to the dealer today and they said the front rotors were warped (the pads had 61% life). They resurfaced the rotors and the vibration problem seems to be gone.

    We had several cars in the past, some of them lasted more than 10 years with 130k miles. Never once did we have a problem with brake rotors. Only thing we did with the brakes was to replace the pads. I asked the service guy why the rotor of the Odyssey went bad so fast and he said heat might have caused it and he blamed it on the driver. My wife drives the van and I know she is a gentle driver and would not be hard on the brakes. When I mentioned why we did not have rotor problems with other cars in the past, he said Odyssey is heaviver than the vehicles I mentioned (Camry, Collora, Altima). Then I asked him what the average life of the brake rotors in Odyssey. He refused to directly answer the question. He also insisted that there is no material defect with the rotors and the repair would not be covered by warranty (I called Honda America and was told it would be covered if it is due to material defects).

    Is this normal that the brake rotor went bad at such a low mileage (the van had just passed 20k miles when I noticed the problem last summer). My understanding is the brake rotor should be able to stand heat. Are the rotors in Odyssey indeed defective? Should I press Honda to pay for the repair or even replace the rotors?
  • drrocketdrrocket Posts: 67
    Did you replace both the front and rear brake pads with Akebono, or just the front ones since that's where the grinding noise is most evident?
  • covehookcovehook Posts: 1
    edited May 2010
    I have the same problem on my 2008 touring. I have 22K miles, the problem with the grinding started at 8K. They want to resurface the rotors. I think for a 40K vehicle they should replace them completely along with the pads. Isn't resurfacing taking away life from the rotor? It seems like a temporary fix for a bigger problem. I had the recall done for soft brakes, but prior with soft brakes = braking harder, would make sense? I'm disappointed to have this happen to a newer vehicle.
  • mama44mama44 Posts: 1
    We replaced our 2000 Odyssey with a 2008 a year ago and REGRET the purchase. One of the deciding factors for making the purchase was that we had dealt with grinding brakes the entire time we had the 2000 model. After many attempts to correct the problem we figured there must be a design flaw and by 2008 Honda had to have resolved the problem. We were wrong, we would have saved $28,000 and kept the old grinding for the new. Honda's solution is to offer us free replacement materials with labor at our cost while stripping some life off our rotors (costing us). That was part the attempts at resolving first Odyssey's issues and it never solved the problem. Last week, the soft brake recall was done which did not resolve the grinding. We have been loyal Honda owners but they are losing that loyalty. if anyone has had luck resolving this problem I would be happy to hear from you.
  • vinijinvinijin Posts: 28
    I would like to know what are the best non-Honda rotors for 2009 odyssey. My van is ready for new rotors and I don't want to replace with Honda rotors. My current original rotors were resurfaced at 20,000 miles and were bad again at 40, 000 miles. If I replace rotors with Honda, then I will be repeating this process again (resurfacing or replacing at every 20,000 miles). I am thinking to replace the brakes with Akebono ceramic brakes. Then I will go to a local shop and ask them to replace both brakes and rotors.
  • dk3dk3 Posts: 1
    I am puzzled to see so many brake issues with Honda Odyssey. I have seen recalls for the year 2007 and 2008. I am not sure why the recalls did not include 2006 models. I own a honda odyssey 2006 with 30 K miles when I bought it one year back. We experience the same issue where the brakes feel so soft and you have to maintain larger distance between the cars. We really have to apply force in order to stop the car. I am planning to take it to dealer this week.
  • We replaced brakes on our 2007 Odyssey w/Akebono ceramics and that was over 35,000 miles ago. I had a local shop put these on and turn the brake rotors. No more grinding, screeching, or other unacceptable noise! If you replace with Honda parts then I too am convinced you will have more of the same.
  • sonofknudsonofknud Posts: 50
    Yea I am not surprised. Our dealer had a awesome supervisor who did the evaluations of difficult situations. He had seen that before with the ABS system and knew what part was causing the issue. Just with the 07-08 the part (redesigned in 07) had a design defect that would reoccur even after the part was replaced. Hopefully they can just replace the ABS Modulator and bleed your brakes to resolve your issue.
  • nccarguynccarguy Posts: 2
    We are having the same issue with our 07. This is our 5th Honda and 3rd Oddysey. We had an 02 with 150k miles. We have had the brake recal for soft pedal, but have suffered over 1yr with the squeal. The dealer has tried adjusting the parking brake and other measures and no luck. I am constantly aggravated by this and embarassed to drive in carpool or have friends in the car. It sounds like I have shoddy brakes. The dealer says that Honda is aware of it but no resolution and they cant do anything else until Honda says so. I have contacted corporate and waiting for an answer. I am aggravated beyond belief and wish I had not bought this car. With this and the torque converter problem I am seriously doubting Honda's quality anymore. Anyone with any solutions? I have two other friends with 07 and 08 with the same issue.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    Out of your pocket brake pad and/or rotor upgrade may help to solve the problem.
    Got this fit 2008 Ody EX from TireRack.com

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  • srm2010srm2010 Posts: 2
    Hi,
    i wish I knew about this issue before buying minivan. I just bought 2 weeks ago. Brakes are too soft. Dealer says it is normal. What should I do? Any suggestions, please

    Thanks
  • doggrandmadoggrandma Posts: 144
    When I bought my new Odyssey EX in early April, they told me to take it easy on the brakes and not to accelerate hard for the first 500 miles or so. I did my best to follow their advice (did have to brake hard on one occasion).

    The brakes felt soft to me, too, and I was worried about it based on what I have read in this forum. However, now the brakes seem fine to me.

    My previous vehicle was a small car, so it did take some time to become accustomed to stopping such a large, heavy vehicle. We took a long trip of about 1,000 miles 2 weeks after our purchase, and by the time we returned, I really didn't notice the braking issue. Now, I like the brakes on my van better than the brakes on my husband's Ford 500.

    Give it some time after the break in period, and see if it doesn't improve. If not, keep talking to the people at the service department.

    So far, we have had no trouble with anything on the van, and we are quite pleased with it. We've even taken another long trip recently.

    Hope this helps! :)
  • sonofknudsonofknud Posts: 50
    A couple of thoughts. If dealer says it is normal than take out a new one and give it a real test and see if they are the same. A second idea is to try another dealer. Dealers have different standards. One dealer told me it was normal the second told me it was unsafe to drive and wanted to keep it overnight. They told me it was normal and they were soft and then ended up recalling the 07 and 08 because of an ABS Modulator leak.
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    I need to replace the front rotors on my wife's 2007 Ody. Has anyone done this on this model? Any "gotcha"s I need to look out for or are they fairly straight forward?
    If anyone knows of any DIY sites with instructions, that would be great!!

    Thanks!
  • nccarguynccarguy Posts: 2
    If your brakes are soft, there is a recal for 07 and 08s. My dealer did that fix and it helped tremedously. I still have the sqealing problem though and I am in the middle of a fight with corporate. It is so annoying and embarassing to hear that everyday. People think I have failing brakes, but I just have annoying brakes that do not instil any confidence. If this fails I will do the aftermarket rotors or trade the thing in. But not before I complain to the highest levels of Honda and inform everyone I can about this issue.
  • my07my07 Posts: 22
    I've changed my front rotors on an 07. There are two philips screws holding the rotor in place which you will see once you take the wheel off. I drilled them out and didn't replace them. Other than that you have two large bolts to remove at the back of the caliper. Toss the junk Honda rotor to the side and put the new rotor on. I put a lug nut on one of the studs to keep the rotor in place while I put the caliper back. That's it. Make sure caliper bolts are good and tight. You could put a tiny dab of anti-seize before putting them back in (especially if you may have to do this again some day).

    I don't have to worry about that. I have one month left on my lease and I can't wait to see it go. Last Honda for me.
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
  • 4odysseyex4odysseyex Posts: 6
    edited July 2010
    I just purchased a 2010 Odyssey EX (june 22), I have about 400 miles on this van and I use my cars and brakes very lightly. With all this, I have a good amount of black brake dust on the front wheels. My question is does any one else have this? I thought Honda used ceramic pads, which are supposed to leave a light colored dust that is not easily visible. Anyone knows if the pads are supposed to be semi-metallic or ceramic? I am thinking about replacing these will Wearever Ceramic (not gold) from Advance Auto Parts. Has anyone tried these pads before? I have tried the golds on my old taurus and had no complains. I would greatly appreciate some feedback. Thank you.
  • pusterracingpusterracing Posts: 186
    I have an 06 EX-L R&N and my brakes generally sound like they are eating into the rotors as well (horrible, horrible grinding sound). I had my van at the dealer for it's 100K service the other week (had them check the brakes for the 4th time due to grinding sounds) and they said I had 25% front pads and 30% on the rears. For 100k miles on the OEM pads, this is great wear. However, I am going to change the rotors and pads anyway (at an independent shop). I was wondering, since I'd like to drive this vehicle another 50-75K miles, what are the advantages of going with a slotted and drilled rotor? Or is there one on a vehicle of this type? I was also thinking about the Centric Posi Quiet pads, anyone have any experience with them?
  • Centric Posi Quiet are a good ceramic brake pad for common everyday use. Akebono, and a few others are good too. If you do not drive constantly up and down the hills or with a full load, any good quality ceramic pads will be fine (most are about $50-75 for either front or rear set). Some ceramic pads are well below $40, I would stay away from those, because you will get what you pay for. Wearever and Duralast from Advance Auto Parts and Auto Zone, respectively are good too. If you do drive with full load in traffic and up and down the hills a lot, then go with semi-metallic pads. Ceramic pads are quieter, and will not hurt your rotors, and leave a very fine grey reside on the wheels that is virtually invisible.... semi metallic is exactly opposite.

    Rotors: I never liked the idea of drilled or slotted rotors for general use.... I can see their application for street racing, but in my opinion, those rotors will eat your pads and do get very hot if used in everyday situations. Also, those rotors are lighter and thus do not absorb and transfer heat very well... Thus higher temperature and a greater chance of warped rotors. Best you should do is buy the heavist rotor you can for your vehicle. Take the old rotor with you can compare the thickness of the steel plates and the vents, if the plates or the vents are of thinner material, do not buy, if the same or better than the original, go for it. Usually cheaper rotors are thinner... I learned that the hard way on my previous vehicles..... The whole rotor and pad replacement is fairly easy and can be done at home if you are handy. Wish you all the best.
  • ancodysseyancodyssey Posts: 3
    edited August 2010
    I have a 2009 Odyssey with about 11,000 miles on the van with a broken rotor, and I have been told my the car dealer in Anchorage that my vehicle is not covered under warranty because they are unable to determine what broke the rotor in half. I must pay the 1,258.87 for the cost of the repair. I spoke with American Honda, and they agreed with the dealer. I was told by American Honda that they do not have a problem with their rotors. I figured that I would be responsible for the bill, so I authorized the repairs. I received a call from the dealer stating that I must pay in cash, money order or cashiers check, or I would not get my car back. I stated that I would like to pay with a credit card; however, the dealer stated that they did not want me to challenge the charge. I can't believe that I have been treated so poorly by Honda! This is my first and last Honda. :confuse:
  • Next time check your Edmunds info and Tire Rack .com. I got lucky.
    Thank you Edmunds!!
  • I would stop using that dealer if they treat you that way. You might have better luck with other brake products then the standard honda OEM. Next time I would give a independent brake shop a chance. Honda didn't stand behind a defective product why pay them to replace that with another of the same product.
  • I looked at our 2008 and a neighbors 2008 and they both have brake dust on the front wheels. I am not sure the Ceramic brake pads help much but I am not much on a expert on that.
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